Can someone tell me the truth on CRE Brokerage profitability potential

Hi guys,

I just landed a brokerage internship at a top shop in a secondary market for next summer (I'll be a rising junior). I've been reading a lot of threads on this site recently about profitability within the brokerage side of CRE and it seems to be all over the place in terms of salary/potential commissions that could be earn. Most people on this site look down on CRE because they don't think it's "high brow" finance. Which is might be why they are downgrading the potential profitability upside in real estate.

Most people are saying that's it near impossible to reach 7 figures in brokerage. However, I know for a fact that everyone on good teams in Primary Markets (NYC, LA, SF, CHI) can easily touch that 10 years into the business if not sooner. I don't see why working hard and networking correctly couldn't lead to this success.

Why is everyone downgrading brokerage profitability?

Cheers,

 
Most Helpful
Jwarnert:
I've been reading a lot of threads on this site recently about profitability within the brokerage side of CRE and it seems to be all over the place in terms of salary/potential commissions that could be earn.

That's because brokerage income is all over the place - even year to year with the same team or even same person. It's almost entirely deal, and thus commission, dependent. There's no way to ballpark comp like with entry to mid level acquisitions or development.

Jwarnert:
Most people on this site look down on CRE because they don't think it's "high brow" finance. Which is might be why they are downgrading the potential profitability upside in real estate.

Maybe highschool wall street superstars do, but the real estate forum has been growing right along with the industry this cycle. Real estate is hardly the red headed step child of the industry and I believe the RE forum is the second most popular on this website, after only the banking forum. Jonathan Gray is the heir apparent of Blackstone. We're taking over.

Jwarnert:
Why is everyone downgrading brokerage profitability?

I think you are taking the wrong message from what you are reading. No one denies that top brokers absolutely kill it. What people accurately point out is that you may not make a commission for 12 months after you become a broker. This has nothing to do with long term earning potential in the role.

Commercial Real Estate Developer
 
Jwarnert:
everyone on good teams in Primary Markets (NYC, LA, SF, CHI) can easily touch that 10 years into the business if not sooner

What CRE and Ozymandia said above are completely accurate.

Elaborating on the sentence above a bit more: easily is a drastic understatement. It is not easy, it's incredibly difficult. The goal of a broker is to make it appear easy because that's how people get to trust them more.

10 years into the business has survivor bias in of itself. Most people wash out of brokerage because they want to be in more control and/ or have a more stable income (move to the ownership side- aka REPE/ Development) or because their personality isn't cut out for brokerage (mine isn't).

It's a grind. You'll see many former military/ former athletes in brokerage because they're great at putting their heads down and putting in the work. Got voice mails from 20 follow up calls this morning? No matter, knock out 20 more after lunch. Lost out on a deal to your competition? No matter, keep up with that person and see if you can get the next deal. If that is your type of attitude you can be successful. If you chase the money only it'll be a difficult road.

Income is volatile. The last several years we've been on an upswing in the markets. You see some insane income. Some will have insane income on the downturn too. If you are interested in it and love to grind away, by all means go be the best damn broker you can be.

“The three most harmful addictions are heroin, carbohydrates, and a monthly salary.” - Nassim Taleb

Career Advancement Opportunities

May 2024 Investment Banking

  • Jefferies & Company 02 99.4%
  • Goldman Sachs 19 98.8%
  • Harris Williams & Co. New 98.3%
  • Lazard Freres 02 97.7%
  • JPMorgan Chase 04 97.1%

Overall Employee Satisfaction

May 2024 Investment Banking

  • Harris Williams & Co. 18 99.4%
  • JPMorgan Chase 10 98.8%
  • Lazard Freres 05 98.3%
  • Morgan Stanley 07 97.7%
  • William Blair 03 97.1%

Professional Growth Opportunities

May 2024 Investment Banking

  • Lazard Freres 01 99.4%
  • Jefferies & Company 02 98.8%
  • Goldman Sachs 17 98.3%
  • Moelis & Company 07 97.7%
  • JPMorgan Chase 05 97.1%

Total Avg Compensation

May 2024 Investment Banking

  • Director/MD (5) $648
  • Vice President (20) $385
  • Associates (88) $260
  • 3rd+ Year Analyst (14) $181
  • Intern/Summer Associate (33) $170
  • 2nd Year Analyst (67) $168
  • 1st Year Analyst (205) $159
  • Intern/Summer Analyst (146) $101
notes
16 IB Interviews Notes

“... there’s no excuse to not take advantage of the resources out there available to you. Best value for your $ are the...”

Leaderboard

1
redever's picture
redever
99.2
2
Betsy Massar's picture
Betsy Massar
99.0
3
BankonBanking's picture
BankonBanking
99.0
4
Secyh62's picture
Secyh62
99.0
5
kanon's picture
kanon
98.9
6
GameTheory's picture
GameTheory
98.9
7
dosk17's picture
dosk17
98.9
8
CompBanker's picture
CompBanker
98.9
9
Linda Abraham's picture
Linda Abraham
98.8
10
DrApeman's picture
DrApeman
98.8
success
From 10 rejections to 1 dream investment banking internship

“... I believe it was the single biggest reason why I ended up with an offer...”