Why Industrial?
For those of you in the Industrial Sector, what brought you to it? All things being equal would you start in it again?
For those of you in the Industrial Sector, what brought you to it? All things being equal would you start in it again?
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I work in industrial, primarily in ground-up new development. Some off the cuff thoughts:
- I enjoy learning about the inner workings of the end users. Manufacturers, etc often with interesting and complex businesses
- the simplicity of the buildings (setting aside TIs) is offset by the scale and complexity of the site work. Common to have sites that are 100+ acres, with dozens of acres of major site alterations. I've learned significantly more about site work and about land use law from working on industrial than I have from working on other asset classes.
- The permitting is a breath of fresh air compared with residential in particular. Typically you're working on sites that aren't directly next to any existing homes, so NIMBYism is vastly reduced. Public hearings that would be filled with angry neighbors if you were building apartments are nearly empty. The technical aspect of the permitting is still highly complex, but the political aspect is greatly reduced. In fact, many local residents and officials have, if anything, positive views towards industrial. You're bringing jobs and real estate tax revenue with buildings in an industrial zone on the edge of town where they never have to go if they don't want to.
- Industrial is a lot more popular now, but I think it still has major tailwinds due to technological changes that affect how people live
Sounds like you’ve worked in multiple asset classes. Is there anything you don’t like about industrial? Or things you would miss about other asset classes if you were strictly in industrial?
What do you find complicated about TIs? I would imagine industry build out is fairly simple. But please correct me if I’m wrong
Same as any other asset class. Tenants don’t know wtf they want.
Any reading you can recommend to learn more about the qualitative/logistical/mechanical factors in industrial (not really sure what the term is, but things like ingress/egress, shape of lot, power usage, load capacity, etc. that don't show up in a model)?
NAIOP has a pretty decent report called "Rules of Thumb for Distribution/Warehouse Facilites Design" that's a good starting point for learning about site and building specific factors (I can PM it to you if interested). Another good way to learn important specifications, would be pulling leasing flyers for buildings and see what they highlight. You could go further and pull those specifications and highlight buildings that have leased quickly relative to construction completion to get a better idea of what high leasing velocity product looks like. That's in essence what we do to make sure what we're building will appeal to the widest range of tenants on a spec building.
Sizing of electrical service is really market specific and ultimately depends on how much you want to spend upfront. Let's say for a hypothetical 250K SF building you could put 2000 amps for your main service and probably meet the requirement for 80% of tenants in the market (again this varies market to market). Or you could upsize that service to 4000 amps and be covered for 95% of tenants but you're paying a lot more upfront for that. There's many more layer beyond that once you get into panels, available transformers from power companies, etc. but long story short it depends as seemingly non-helpful as that answer can be.
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How's your pickup truck game? GMC? Rivian? Old F-150?
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I've been working in ground-up industrial development for 3+ years now starting right out of college. To answer your first question. I really just stumbled into industrial. I knew I wanted to get into development right out of school if possible and was fortunate to end up with a few offers in different asset classes. Ultimately, I ended up deciding based on the individual firm (wanted to be at smaller shop with more hands-on experience, easier to rise up the ladder, etc.) and that offer happened to be for industrial.
With that being said, there's a lot of things I've learned to like about Industrial (echoing some of the points above):
Overall, industrial has been a great and interesting place to start my career, but don't get into it. There are too many good developers chasing too few deals right now and I want to stay busy.
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