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Did you ever get to meet John Stossel at an SFL conference?

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No, have yet to meet Stossel, though it would be pretty cool.

^^ lmao no. Practically polar opposite to Obama, it's a libertarian group. I tried to add some liberal group in the list above in my OP to make it even more anonymous, but there is no way I would even think about putting something like "Young Americans for socialism" or something like that on my resume.

Thanks guys.

 
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Either way, it's tricky: if it goes to a Republican and you're listing democrat, socialist, or third way....you're gonna get drilled on it, if you get the interview. If you list GOP, tea party, or libertarian, chances are that the HR/staffing people might ding you, and you'd also be very surprised at how many democrats work in finance.

When I was first looking for internships, I listed half a dozen political parties, so no one could really get a bead on what I personally believed, so that's an option: I had originally considered a career in politics and wanted to really see the inner workings of lots of groups. You could also just put "college political group" and you're unlikely to have to disclose what you vote. That's just me though, some people are more open about their political affiliations and tend to stick to those that see things their way, so there's that option too.

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Good points, thank you UFO.

I read on here that Wall Street/Finance is not as conservative/libertarian bent as some make it out to be (I think a lot on here would say they are libertarians, which isn't always the case), so I do worry about bumping into someone that is a huge Democrat or whatever and won't be as sympathetic to my beliefs or maybe even hold it against me.

HR people could likely be more liberal? Seems like the HR majors at my b-school kind of are haha. Coming from a non-target I am already gonna have a tough time, so I don't want to make things any harder on myself.

Hmmm, that is very interesting, just saying "College Political Group", never really thought of that. The group is fairly reputable so I would like to keep it on, but then again if the recruiter/whoever knows about the group and doesn't really like it I would probably be better to keep things vague. Chances are they might not even have heard of the group/know much about it. And besides, like I said earlier, who is against freedom/liberty? It's just the extent of freedom and liberty haha.

Thanks again.

 
wsrookiewho is against freedom/liberty?
It's highly debateable, but look at it this way: libertarians see absence of gov't as freedom because they can fend for themselves on a particular issue and liberals want gov't to enforce agreed upon freedoms that would be overwhelmed otherwise. The goal is the same, but the mechanism is different, and each has its place. Long story short: most people simply want to control their own fate and don't want to be told what to do on Wall Street or anywhere else.

Everyone's style is different and I try and stick to a utilitarian idealism, so I pick and choose my views according to my needs....but most people are more willing to stay within a camp. If you're facing an uphill battle coming from a non-targ, you need to play to your strengths. If finding other libertarians is viable, then go play up that angle, and if neutrality is beneficial, then use that.

Prioritize which is more important to you: your political views or getting a job. Either is fine, just be clear with yourself.

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"College Political Group" is actually a good idea.

The thing with libertarians is that the really extreme types of the group (the anarcho capitalist types, for example) rally tend to alienate people, and quite honestly shove their views down your throat no matter how hard you protest. For me, though, while political groups do provide leadership and whatnot in the sense that you can put "president of ___" on your resume, the amount of work they get done is minimal. It also sends a signal that your beliefs are equivalent to your qualifications, at least in your mind (not so true if you're a member in one or two, but if you're president of exclusively one sided, numerous political groups/campaigns/etc), I will be suspicious.

 

Thanks ufo, again good points. What I meant by being against liberty was mainly just the word, like who is against liberty or freedom on the surface (ie who likes tyranny lol). But like you said the approach is different from each side, but the end goal of prosperity is most peoples end goal (imo).

My political views are not a huge priority for me, especially on a resume a job is more important and I'm becoming more and more pissed at politics anyway lol.

But I feel like resurrecting a club that I actually do care about and taking a leadership in would be a good thing for a resume...too bad it is political.

"Prioritize which is more important to you: your political views or getting a job. Either is fine, just be clear with yourself." -ufo

Problem is I want both lol...but I definitely see your point.

m56"College Political Group" is actually a good idea.

The thing with libertarians is that the really extreme types of the group (the anarcho capitalist types, for example) rally tend to alienate people, and quite honestly shove their views down your throat no matter how hard you protest. For me, though, while political groups do provide leadership and whatnot in the sense that you can put "president of ___" on your resume, the amount of work they get done is minimal. It also sends a signal that your beliefs are equivalent to your qualifications, at least in your mind (not so true if you're a member in one or two, but if you're president of exclusively one sided, numerous political groups/campaigns/etc), I will be suspicious.

Thanks for post. Compared to a lot of libertarians (the extreme ones at least) I'm really moderate and I'm really just a fiscal conservative that has a lot of social liberal tendencies...or basically an old school republican who isn't so f'ing hung up on social issues and whatnot. I just believe mostly in the free market, live and let live and am concerned with how bloated our government is becoming. I won''t be all hellbent preaching about how the government shouldn't pave roads and what not in the near future (like some libertarians argue, although I am probably more sympathetic to their arguments than others).

What do you mean by the last two sentences in your post?

Thanks guys.

 

I would leave it off, the risk/reward isn't in your favor. You either get someone who agrees with your views and you're fine, you get someone who passionately disagrees with you and holds a grudge, or (the most likely), you get someone who is irritated by people who are obsessed about politics and they fear you will be the type of person that talks politics at work. Most people find people that discuss politics at work irritating and potentially divisive.

 
basically an old school republican who isn't so f'ing hung up on social issues and whatnot

That's me, so I understand you completely.

What do you mean by the last two sentences in your post?

I was writing that in the middle of class, and reading it back, it makes little sense. I was saying that if you're a member of YAF or CRs or something, it won't hurt you. However, if you're a bleeding-heart libertarian (apparently, that's a real organization), your only experience is with Cato and friends, and you spend all your time on very specific, extremely libertarian fringe projects, I would be suspicious of you as a candidate.

 

sirtradesalot, valid points and agree and see where you are coming from. I usually only bring up politics when someone specifically asks me since no one likes the person that drives their opinions down others' throats. And even then, I'm usually vague.

But you can't tell that from a resume lol

m56
basically an old school republican who isn't so f'ing hung up on social issues and whatnot

That's me, so I understand you completely.

What do you mean by the last two sentences in your post?

I was writing that in the middle of class, and reading it back, it makes little sense. I was saying that if you're a member of YAF or CRs or something, it won't hurt you. However, if you're a bleeding-heart libertarian (apparently, that's a real organization), your only experience is with Cato and friends, and you spend all your time on very specific, extremely libertarian fringe projects, I would be suspicious of you as a candidate.

Hmmm, so yeah the only thing that political on my resume would be YAF/YAL/FFE. I'm an Eagle Scout and thats almost the only thing I have left from high school on there (left SAT on and maybe GPA). Someone told me that being an Eagle Scout would help for college admissions because colleges might think that I am socially conservative and therefore and minority in college (lol, still doesn't make sense to me).

idk, I could spin it on my resume by highlighting things the group does that most people do not find that controversial like rising student debt (well maybe not, could easily get misconstrued), volunteering in the community (actually a pretty big component), civil liberties.

Ehh, now that I wrote that out sounds kinda weird. Leadership position is mine if I want it. Gonna be a pain with all of the work and whatnot, and being honest I'm not even 100% gung-ho libertarian anyway so being president of an org like this would be kind of weird.

Thanks for the help though guys.

Edit: Instead of "Political Group", would "Civil Liberties Group" work or would that be even more controversial? Kinda feel weird blatantly putting politics on my resume in a roundabout way haha.

 

Don't put political stuff on your resume. Very little upside and huge downside. Most bankers are conservative but some are liberal too. Everyone on either side thinks that their side is incontrovertible and everyone on the other side is brain dead and you don't want the person looking at your resume to chuck it in the trash.

 
I'm an Eagle Scout and thats almost the only thing I have left from high school on there (left SAT on and maybe GPA). Someone told me that being an Eagle Scout would help for college admissions because colleges might think that I am socially conservative and therefore and minority in college (lol, still doesn't make sense to me).

I friend of mine is an Eagle Scout and a socialist, so I doubt the two are mutually exclusive. Nothing wrong with being an Eagle Scout, but I don't think it carries much weight one you get out of HS.

Gonna be a pain with all of the work and whatnot, and being honest I'm not even 100% gung-ho libertarian anyway so being president of an org like this would be kind of weird.

So then what's the point of continuing if it's a pain?

 

I try to ignore politics on a resume, but seeing College Dems/Repubs always makes me cringe a bit. I say leave it off the resume, or make it a generic name. You don't want to be unfairly tossed aside because of your political views.

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