Best bootcamps/ immersion MBA programs for investment banking?
tl;dr What MBA programs offer the best transition opportunities for students with no prior Finance experience interested in this field, and that also have strong recruiting?
I know that Yale SOM offers a "math bootcamp" for some admitted students with weaker quant backgrounds but that's not industry related and more so exists to strengthen math skills prior to the start of classes. It looks like MIT Sloan and Cornell Johnson offer Immersion programs that provide realistic simulations to the functions they'll choose to pursue at summer internships but its unclear how many of those students didn't already have some experience working in a Finance related field.
I'm wondering whether there are other programs offering something similar and what people's experience has been with their unique programs. Specifically, what efforts are made by the program to guide students looking to transition? I mean partnering students with unique mentors, advisors, or even additional coursework helpful for transitioning students.
Given that first year MBA Associates within IBD are typically less knowledgable than their Analysts and other Associates who have started out as Analysts, what schools put into place the strongest efforts t combat some of that knowledge gap for folks transitioning industries?
Cornell is the only one I know that has an IB immersion program. Pick the best MBA program you can get into. Don’t pick based on immersion programs. Most MBA summer associates have no experience in finance.
Thanks for your feedback. Wouldn't a bootcamp such as the IB Immersion qualify an MBA program to be among one of the best? What do you consider to be best? I'd value recruiting and preparedness at the top. In the case of Cornell specifically it seems that the school places lots of graduates at IBDs at an 85% internship conversion.
I think this is important for candidates who have literally zero experience in Finance as they are competing for jobs against others who hold much more knowledge than them. It seems that it would make more sense to enroll in a program that's most fitting for candidates based on their level of experience/career aspirations and how the school in question accommodates for that. I would much rather enroll at school who's program offering is designed to meet my needs with no finance background vs at a school like Wharton where everyone interested in Finance is gunning for the same IBD opportunities, and who most likely already have at least some finance experience. Sure, an MBA from an M7 like Wharton sounds nice but in this example will it really prepare you better than a T15? Given how demanding and stressful recruiting already is wouldn't it be wiser to pick a program that's better suited to your needs, or am I placing too much weight here and looking at this the wrong way? It just doesn't make sense to me, costs aside, that one should pick an MBA program based on ranking alone especially when recruiting ops are nearly identical across the top tier programs.
I am genuinely interested in your feedback so please let me know if you think my perspective is flawed.
he means the best in terms of ranking, prestige, placement, etc
I agree that Cornell has an excellent MBA program that will prepare you for IB. Your reasoning is not flawed, but here are a few things to think about.
1) Recruiting takes place from September to December. Most people have an internship lined up by early January. Cornell's IB immersion program starts in January. The immersion program will help you excel in your internship but will not help in recruiting.
2) The internship conversion rate at my T15 program (and probably other schools) was around 85-90%. Cornell does a better job at marketing that figure on its website. Also, your performance is not the only thing that will matter in your success in converting to a full-time offer. The internship conversion rate varies across banks and different groups within those banks.
3) Think long term. An MBA is not just about getting that first job but an opportunity to build a strong network for your long term career. In a couple of years, you may realize banking is not for you and may want to switch to another field within or outside of finance. A Wharton/M7 MBA will have a more robust alumni network in other fields such as PE/consulting/marketing etc. than a T15 program.
In the end, you will be spending $150,000 - $200,000 on an MBA, so pick the program that you think is best for you. If you believe an immersion program is the only thing that matters, then go for it!
Interesting. How do first year students prep for summer internship recruiting without having completed any classes at that point, especially as it relates to the technical questions during interviews? Do b-schools provide any guidance/resources for this and if so, are some better than others?
Short answer yes they help you prep. Check the links below for more details.
https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/review-of-investment-banking-rec…</a">Link
https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/brief-introduction-to-banking-re…</a">Link 2
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