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bain consulting has the most impressive placement into b-school that i have seen. most either go to HBS/stanford/other top10 bschools
McKinsey and Bain are similar. I'd give the edge to McKinsey, based on the success of those I know..
seiye: I am sure GS has good placement, but you will still have a hard time getting into a top school after 2-3 years at GS. You'll likely need some work experience after the analyst stint.
Consulting analysts certainly have an edge in terms of early B-school placement. One of the McKinsey people who came to present said that almost 10% of the incoming class at HBS is McKinsey.
No offense, but I don't think you can give an "edge" to either based on individuals that you know, unless of course, you know several hundred people at each firm. My guess is that the placement rate is very similar, but I couldn't make a call in either direction.
McKinsey should represent a relatively larger portion of each incoming class, of course - since the firm is much larger than Bain. Of course, the head of admissions at HBS is a Bain alum, so perhaps Bain folks do have an edge there...
None taken. I am sure you're right, but I was under the impression that Bain has more ACs than McK has BAs? Or is that the opposite?
I know ~30 or so at one firm and ~9-10 at the other who've gone onto B-School (vast majority of the acquaintances are from my college, of course..)
Actually you make a very good point, while its a strange system, McKinsey seems to hire very few BAs (relative to post-MBA consultants) in some offices, and a comparably large number (relative to Bain) in other offices.
From the sheer fact that they have so many more offices I would presume that BAs in total outnumber ACs (particularly if they've got 10% representation, or close to 100 kids, at HBS from McK each year), but the totals are probably relatively similar.
Yeah, I've noticed that too. McKinsey is often at the single biggest employer at the Top 10 business schools, often taking 27-30 people from every school.
Is it because Bain often positions itself as a place for those who want to do consulting in the long-term? I know that's Oliver Wyman's pitch, something they drove home during the talks and presentations, probably explaining the limited recruitment from grad programs.
Yeah, McKinsey has 20 offices vs. 8 or so for Bain. But I know that some offices actually don't have BAs, while others have 5 a piece.
how hard is it to get an associate position, preferably in international locations, at McK or Bain after a top 15 MBA? It must be easy from H/S/W, but what about the rest of the "top" schools?
GS won't place more than McKinsey or Bain in HBS or other top 10 programs for a reason. In consulting you MUST get an MBA. Finance you don't necessarily need to. This is especially true if you start as an analyst in IB or S & T and never leave.
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