Is IU-Kelley a target school?
Undergraduate (Finance)
Regardless IU-Bloomington's overall ranking in the nation, I have heard great things about Kelley as it's one of the most valued and highly reputable for employers. Would that all be true? How about their professors and teaching staff, teaching methods, internship programs, and reputation for IB/MC/Commercial Banking?
I'm also thinking about OSU-Fisher (I read that they're ranked around #14 for undergrad business) Don't think that it's a target but the school does have a huge alumni and I might be able to use a little bit of help with networking I assume.
Would both of them be great choices? (Applying for both)
IU is a target if you're looking to be in Chicago. Don't know about OSU, but I'm guessing it's a target for Cleveland.
"Target for Cleveland" Yeah and my mouth is a target for donuts.
Those kids gotta go somewhere right? lol
If you get into the ib program, (each have their own name) you are 100% fine. If not, good luck.
I don't who the hell told you that OSU is #14 undergrad but they were wrong. Maybe #14 of all schools that are west of the Appalachians
You can just search "best undergraduate business school 2016" or anything like that and I have always seen Fisher the whole time. Not the big 10, but they're always there in the big 20.
Here is a list "better" than IU off the top of my head...this is undergrad in general, not necessarily undergrad business schools. For example, Amherst is a liberal arts college but more of a 'target' then IU.
Disclaimer: If the following article is your source, your source is absolutely wrong. It's a survey...
http://www.bloomberg.com/features/2016-best-undergrad-business-schools/
Harvard Yale Princeton UPenn MIT Michigan Duke UVA Georgetown Wash U (St. Louis) Northwestern U Chicago Amherst Cal Stanford Williams UT - Austin Cornell Dartmouth Brown Emory Carnegie Mellon Notre Dame
Cool list, it just depends on which one is it on the list. The competition is fierce for undergrad ib, even many on this list is only a target to a few loyalists in the region.
list looks good to me. the only more regional ones on that list might be wustl, emory, and CMU. otherwise, that list looks great
refer to this for a better distinction between semi target and target: http://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/list-of-targets-and-semi-targets
That's not the only one, there are severals. I don't base myself solely on a source that appears on top of the google search. I did read several articles and I rarely don't find Fisher among them.
Anyways, just because they are targets or Ivy League schools, I don't think that it necessarily means that it has a better business school. Wouldn't employers consider the business school ranking/notability instead, alumni networking, or internship etc etc? As you mentioned above, Amherst doesn't even have a finance major, would they prefer someone with an economics major from Amherst or a finance major from Kelley with more networks and internships? I'm an international student and a lot of people from my country applied to Kelley.
Not saying that I know better than you do, but I don't think all of those schools you mentioned are well-known for their business program. (regardless their national rank) Besides being more competitive to get in, all of them sure hella cost more than Kelley, especially Fisher. Scholarship would be my only reason to apply to one of those schools for undergraduate.
Cheers.
no because you know a rank is unlegit if it doesn't even have wharton remotely close to the top. also prestige tends to trump all when it comes to investment banking in particular. the amount of actual technical skill you need is not that much
no undergrad business porgrams at most of those schools
Lazard recruits there
Where is "there"? Kelley? Not sure where you're referring to.
Yep!
Strong conditional "if". I looked into the school a few years ago and got a good idea about it. If you get into the investment banking program (either one) your placement odds are almost 100% with GS/JPM and the EBs recruiting on campus. The program is also very work intensive with numerous practical exercises so "Kelley has a reputation for producing analysts who are extremely well prepared for the job"( exact quote from a BAML/Citi/MS VP). Placement ranges from JPM/GS TMT /BlackRock to MM banks in tier 2 cities.
Downside is getting into it is difficult with a 4.0 GPA being more or less necessary and if you don't get into the program you're in a "non target" situation, albeit with a larger and more helpful alumni in banking network than most other non targets.
Not sure if you are stating a 4.0 is necessary for Kelley or IB workshop, but in either case you are wrong. to get into Kelley you need all class grades (not just pre-reqs) to be a B or above. Yes, a single B- is the difference between getting in or not. As for the workshop, it is all about industry knowledge, social skills, and being a generally likable person.
I wouldn't call it target, but I know two people from the program. One is COO of a hedge fund and the other one (younger guy, under 30) is an analyst at a different fund. Both smart guys, ended up doing well in life so far.
I'm an international and junior student studying Finance at Kelley undergrad. The IB workshop at Kelley is pretty good in landing you an internship and a full-time offer. Look here for more info: https://kelley.iu.edu/ibn/IBW/workshop.cfm. Basically, your odds of getting an internship and full-time offer once you get into the IBW program is around 90%+. From a cost standpoint, I pay around 18k per semester which is relatively cheaper compared to other private business schools. Good luck on your decision!
LOL. same international junior here but in my case I fully wasted my first two years at kelley. I mean I got fairly good GPA and all but didn't know about IBW until its too late and didn't land a SA so far. Where did you land in terms of summer?
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