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Yeah I'm still with the bank. Working from home, almost all of the traders are working from home, some are in the office or satellite office. Just trying to move to prop. I think for me, having the freedom is what appeals to me. I don't know if I should stick with energy or rates, yet. Yeah just a response on your post, this site isn't what it used to be in terms of traders. I don't know if they're leaving the business or just don't care to socialize on forums anymore.

 
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Hey so I haven't been on site, actively, like I used to be. I kind of lost interest because I'm not really learning anything new anymore and I don't see the value spending half my day on this forum anymore. So I want to talk trading with you.. I know you're heavily focused on ZB. But I never see you talking about curve or flies or various structures you could put on. Is there a reason? My biggest issue right now is that, if I move to prop or trade on my own... specifically energy (crude, natgas, etc)... these markets are very volatile and although there are market makers, it's thinly traded especially across spread curve and other structures and trading outright doesn't appeal to me regardless if liquidity is there because it's chaotic. So even though I don't want to make markets, I feel like I don't have a choice but to get paid trading mean reversion instead of hitting the market makers bid/offer and just layer out my position and hoping I get lifted or hit on the book to average in without getting run over... My biggest issue with energy is that these markets might not get traded and literally have no prints for two hours and market maker is obviously doesn't wrap their market on last price and runs with whatever structure (outright) makes up the spread trade. So the chart may not move and give a false indication which will throw off all of indicators that I use, regardless if it's proprietary or not because, no print, indicators don't move. It's super frustrating. I need to trade something where liquidity is there because at the end of the day, liquidity is my edge especially when I'm not a market maker and crossing the market won't fuck me. And with me using tick charts, you know if the price goes, it will fucking go and with the spread being super wide, it's literally losers game unless you're a maker maker on the screen, auto quoting.

 

Dw ironchef I will soon update you with my shitty UST futures paper trading lol. I'm curious are you trading individually or do you work for a prop firm?

Also, I talked to a guy who's been trading individually for awhile the other day and he's definitely potentially open to someone joining him. He used to have a prop firm with a few others who were similarly accomplished and was before that a FX Chief Dealer at a major bank. I know he spent time as a FX prop trader at banks for some portion of his career. If you want his contact information, PM me but I can't provide any introduction whatsoever as he's just someone I networked with as a college student (ie don't mention that you know me). mswoonc

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