Another Take on Target Schools: Representation at America's Elite B-Schools

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People discuss target schools and rankings all the time but usually people just toss out anecdotes with no facts to back up their statements. One way to gauge how strong of a target school a certain college is to see how many alums end up at elite business schools (M7) since it goes to follow that in order to get admitted into an elite MBA program you need to have a prestigious job and in order to land that prestigious job, you need to go to a highly regarded school.

So, without further a due, here at the top feeder colleges to the M7 minus MIT and Kellogg plus Tuck.

http://poetsandquants.com/2011/10/06/top-feeder-co... http://poetsandquants.com/2012/05/30/top-feeder-co...
http://poetsandquants.com/2011/08/15/top-feeder-co... http://poetsandquants.com/2011/08/07/top-feeder-sc...
http://poetsandquants.com/2011/09/14/top-feeder-co... http://poetsandquants.com/2011/09/07/top-feeder-sc...

TOTAL ESTIMATED (Harvard+Wharton+Stanford+Columbia+Chicago Booth+Dartmouth Tuck)

Harvard: 192
University of Pennsylvania: 183

Stanford: 117
Yale: 113

Princeton: 101
Duke: 95
Columbia: 89
Berkeley: 84
Dartmouth: 80
Georgetown: 79

Northwestern: 67
Cornell: 59
UVA: 58
MIT: 54
Michigan: 49
Brown: 47
New York University: 42
UCLA: 41

University of Southern California: 25
University of Texas-Austin: 24
Williams College: 24
Washington University in St. Louis: 17
University of Chicago: 12
Middlebury: 11
Georgia Tech: 10
CMU: 9
Illinois: 9
Vanderbilt: 9
Tufts: 8
Boston University: 7
Maryland: 7
Bowdoin: 6
Johns Hopkins: 6
Notre Dame: 6
Penn State: 6
Purdue: 6
Amherst: 5
Boston College: 5
Colby College: 5
Bates: 4
BYU: 3
Haverford: 3
UNC: 3

Comments (21)

Jun 4, 2012

Pretty good list. I think this can shed some light on the whole "I go to a semi target that you've never heard of, what are my chances?" questions.

Jun 4, 2012

I am surprised how poorly UK schools and Canadian schools are represented and how many students from the ITTs are representede

Jun 8, 2012
Powa23:

I am surprised how poorly UK schools and Canadian schools are represented and how many students from the ITTs are representede

It is not the logical career path for people from the UK to take a MBA in the US for 3 reasons:
1. You dont need it (as much) to progress in your career - unless you move to the US
2. It takes longer and is more expensive than top MBAs in Europe
3. You don't benefit from the network as much if you do not plan to stay in the US

Jun 8, 2012
atleastimnotabanker:
Powa23:

I am surprised how poorly UK schools and Canadian schools are represented and how many students from the ITTs are representede

It is not the logical career path for people from the UK to take a MBA in the US for 3 reasons:
1. You dont need it (as much) to progress in your career - unless you move to the US
2. It takes longer and is more expensive than top MBAs in Europe
3. You don't benefit from the network as much if you do not plan to stay in the US

Same goes for Canadian candidates, and probably anyone else in Europe, Australia, NZ, etc.

Jun 4, 2012

let the cock measuring contest begin!!!

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Jun 4, 2012

I don't understand how you aggregated the numbers because some don't add up.

Jun 4, 2012
hot1590:

I don't understand how you aggregated the numbers because some don't add up.

This. Your numbers don't add up. And you left some schools off entirely.

Jun 4, 2012

This list means nothing. According to your list BYU has 3, but according to the HBS list there are 8 BYU graduates with HBS class of 2013 on Facebook.

Furthermore for larger MBA programs being school #26 still means 8-10 students, which is significant enough to double the number of students for a lot of the lower ranked schools.

Jun 4, 2012

Bates!

"That dude is so haole, he don't even have any breath left."

Jun 4, 2012

I actually got interested in this and added the numbers again. Turns out that he was right up until UCLA. Here is the list.

harvard 192
Upenn 183

Stanford 117
Yale 113

Princeton 101
duke 95
Columbia 89
Berkeley 84
dartmouth 80
Georgetown 79

Northwestern 67
Cornell 59
Indian Institute of Tech 58
Univ of Virginia 58
Brown 54
MIT 54
Univ of Michigan 49
NYU 42
UCLA 41
Univ of Texas-Austin 40

West Point 29
USC 25
Boston 24
Williams 24
BYU 23
Univ of Illinois 22

Washington 17
Carnegie Mellon 14
Notre Dame 13
National Univ. of Singapore 13
Univ of Chicago 12
Cambridge 12
Middlebury 11
LSE 11
Yonsei Univ 10
Seoul National Univ 10
Univ of Wisconsin 10
GIT 10
Vanderbilt 9
Oxford 9
Tufts 8
Univ of Western Ontario 8
McGill 7
Univ of Maryland 7
fudan univ. 6
bowdoin 6
Johns Hopkins 6
Univ of Georgia 6
Wellesley 6
Amherst 6
Penn State 6
Purdue 6
Colby College 5
Shanghai Jiao Tong Univ. 5
Ohio State 5
Bates 4
New Economic School 4
Peking 4
UNC 4
haverford 3
Rice 3
Univ. of New South Wales 3

Jun 6, 2012

Williams does pretty damn well, considering its overall size.

Jun 6, 2012

The only correction I would add is that Michigan has 49 but other than that, good job! Dartmouth does especially well given the fact that it only has 1100-1200 undergraduates each year.

Jun 4, 2012

I changed michigan. I also wanted to add the class size of 2008 and find the % but it would've been too much work.

Jun 7, 2012

yeah, dartmouth does well until you realize ~100/class will go to top banks/consulting firms and reputed buyside shops and like 5+% of Tuck is Dartmouth alums.

Jun 8, 2012

No surprise here. Harvard, Yale, Penn, Columbia, Duke, Princeton, Stanford = elite of the elite.

Illinois: 9
University of Chicago: 12

problem, illini? :p

Jun 6, 2012

seedy, I would add Dartmouth to your list. Berkeley does ok too-its clearly in a league of its own among the state schools for high finance/consulting.

Jun 8, 2012

I'm actually pretty darned happy. If you bothered to read the (corrected) numbers, 22 is not half bad for some podunk state school, and it's on the same order as many of the Ivies.

Bottom line is that a bright kid from Illinois can do just as well as that same bright kid from most other schools. So again, why spend more money on college than you have to?

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Jun 10, 2012

This list is almost dead on the same as WSO target and semi-target lists.

Harvard
Penn

Stanford
Yale
Princeton

Duke
Columbia
Berkeley
Dartmouth
Georgetown

Northwestern
Cornell
UVA
Brown
MIT
UMich
NYU
UCLA
UTexas

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Jun 10, 2012

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Jun 14, 2012
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