Chances at MIT MFin / Vandy MSF

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Hey guys I will be applying to Masters programs this year and was wondering about my chances.

  • Will be a 3L at a top 20 law school (think 15-20)
  • Will graduate around top 1/3
  • Shitty 3.0 UGPA in psych from a small liberal arts university
  • Psych research positions (published) and internships with a federal judge but no FT work exp
  • LSAT = 168, GMAT = 790 (51V, 50Q)
  • Only substantive math classes have been during my 2L year, Calc I = A, Calc II = A

I know its a weird combination of stuff but I had a very tough time in my life finding what I wanted to do and my UGPA was caused by a death in the immediate family (my last 2 years were 3.8+). I really have found a passion for finance after being able to shadow some family friends who work in the field, but have taken quite a roundabout path. Do I have a chance at any of the top MFin or MSF programs? Thank you.

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Apr 11, 2012

Do you meet math requirements for MIT? If so, you might have a distant shot, but would have to REALLY sell your story.

Apr 11, 2012

Well if I'm good at anything I suppose it's storytelling. I must admit that I am unable to find MIT's math requirements on their website. Any ideas on other schools with similar programs?

Apr 11, 2012

Can't you just recruit into an associate position at a BB from your law school? Thought they had summer internships for lawyers.

Apr 11, 2012

I think you could greatly improve your chances by taking multivariable calculus, linear algebra, mathematical statistics and differential equations as a part time student. You won't even have to attend your lectures aside from mid terms and handing in assignments as there are some phenomenal resources online that you can work on during your weekends (MIT OCW, Khanacademy, Berkley etc) while working FT. Most ambitious high school students take calculus II these days.

Apr 11, 2012

MIT is going to be wondering why the heck you are in law school if you want to go into Finance. They will also be looking for industry experience.

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Mar 12, 2015
Fargo94:

Don't listen to this egotistical maniac(illi). MIT MFin accepts students even with philosophy majors so long they have the required math & computing knowledge. I would recommend you to learn some languages, Lynda is a great source for learning languages. This nutter just wants to discourage everyone with that fucking background thing. MIT looks well rounded students with any background, not computer/math hermits. So learn some math and languages and you will be okay. that plus your storytelling skill should get you interview

Thanks for resurrecting a 3 year old thread to post this... interesting comment. Thank you also for your... interesting PM. Not sure where the... interesting set of feelings come from.

There's lots of opportunities for everybody but MIT does have a few math prereqs that they take seriously. And MIT leans younger. A 3-year grad school degree makes it harder, not easier to get in, all else equal.

Good luck to you.

Apr 12, 2012

The WUSTL MSF and Villanova MSF seem to be considered on WSO as the same tier as the Vandy MSF. You should consider those schools as well. UT Austin is also starting a new MSF program. http://msfhq.com/ - check that out if you havent already.

If you have family connections in finance maybe you could try find a finance-related internship for this summer to show an interest in finance?

I feel like with a 790 GMAT if you could show some type of interest in finance you would have a good shot at any of those five programs.

Apr 12, 2012
triplectz:

Can't you just recruit into an associate position at a BB from your law school? Thought they had summer internships for lawyers.

Yes BBs do recruit at a very select number of law schools, unfortunately mine is not one of them.

IlliniProgrammer:

MIT is going to be wondering why the heck you are in law school if you want to go into Finance. They will also be looking for industry experience.

Understandable, I was not fortunate enough to find something I truly had a passion in so early in life. Honestly, law school seemed interesting upon entrance but after seriously looking into prosecution/defense I found several morality issues that would hold me back from working in the field.

Unfortunately I was late in the interview session for OCI so I missed a lot of direct networking. I am currently looking for a finance related internship for the upcoming months. Thanks everyone for the insight.

Apr 12, 2012

op is rich

enough said

Apr 12, 2012

op is rich

enough said

True enough, cost is not much of an issue in choice of schools. Speaking of which I am expanding my list of schools to:

WUSTL
Duke
CMC
Vandy
MIT

Apr 12, 2012

You got a 790 on ur GMAT. I do believe you have a good shot of getting into many MSF programs, such as Vandy, Nova, Duke. But I guess the hardest would be MIT..

Apr 13, 2012

What kind of job are you looking for after your degree?

Apr 19, 2012

Sorry for the late response, busy with finals coming up. I just signed up for Linear Algebra and Differential Equations this summer, so that brings my quantitative classes to Calc I, Calc II, Linear Algebra, and Dif EQ (will be taking Calc III my first 3L semester so I can hopefully list that on my resume/app). So hopefully that will look good as a kind of alternative transcript by the time I send in my application. With all these classes I believe I satisfy the recommended quant knowledge at MIT.

Essentially my goal is to be an entrepreneur; however, I am no rush whatsoever. An ideal path would be at a BB bank or good consulting firm and move to private equity. I have a couple interviews with small PE firms in San Diego for the summer as well, so hopefully that works out. The summer between law school and the MSF (hopefully) will be another opportunity to get an internship.

Mar 12, 2015
motedust:

Hey guys I will be applying to Masters programs this year and was wondering about my chances.

- Will be a 3L at a top 20 law school (think 15-20)

- Will graduate around top 1/3

- Shitty 3.0 UGPA in psych from a small liberal arts university

- Psych research positions (published) and internships with a federal judge but no FT work exp

- LSAT = 168, GMAT = 790 (51V, 50Q)

- Only substantive math classes have been during my 2L year, Calc I = A, Calc II = A

I know its a weird combination of stuff but I had a very tough time in my life finding what I wanted to do and my UGPA was caused by a death in the immediate family (my last 2 years were 3.8+). I really have found a passion for finance after being able to shadow some family friends who work in the field, but have taken quite a roundabout path. Do I have a chance at any of the top MFin or MSF programs? Thank you.

I think you will be highly competitive at both. The key thing is going to be selling the adcoms on why you want to do an MSF after law school. The UG GPA isn't that big a deal since you crushed the GMAT. Assuming top third in your law program means you have a mid-3's GPA the law degree will forgive the UG. Top 20 law school means a solid brand going into the MSF also.

I'd maybe expand the MSF pool to include other top B schools that offer the program. Think UTAustin, USC. That way you can keep layering on the brands for this masters.

Good luck!

Mar 12, 2015

Interesting strategy for talking sense into me. :-)

Let's restart this conversation in another thread at a later date. We have a difference of opinion and it's not worth making it personal.

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Mar 12, 2015
Fargo94:

hey fuck do you even know that MIT admitted 40+% business/management undergraduates?

Why don't we continue this discussion in your other thread where you ask how to get into MIT from a non target:

http://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/hahahahahaha...

MIT admits lots of people with liberal arts and business backgrounds- kids from non targets too. It just doesn't admit trolls.

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Mar 12, 2015

Sure. You called me out. I had been under the assumption that MIT was a little more quantitative and leaned a little more quantitative in its admits, but that impression has been changing over the past three years and continues to change.

BTW did you get in? This ought to be doable for an Accy major with a 770 GMAT.

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Mar 12, 2015

Oh, I'm sure it is. MIT has Merton. I don't think Princeton is obsessed with beating other schools- we get great placements like everyone else.

Do your recruiting plans include the US or just the UK? Where are you aiming for? IBD? Fundamental hedge funds? Trading?

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Mar 12, 2015

What in the fuck is going on here? And why are people who are helping with advice being shit on.

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