Cornell JD/MBA

Is it worth it to do this? Cost is going to be 1.25 the price. It is not a particularly well ranked school.

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Dec 3, 2011

what are your career goals?

Dec 3, 2011

For what it's worth, having looked heavily into the JD/MBA degree as I was researching for my applications, a 3-year degree is not respected as well as the 4 year options. I can't be bothered to dig out the article, but I believe one of the deans at SLS who was on their action committee when it came up for debate (switching from their 4-year flagship offering to the 3-year everyone seems to favor) simply said, "We considered it because of the competition for students," says Mr. Kramer. "Unaltered, the programs are five years' worth of study. To cut 40% was just not responsible." (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124277262053136545...).
A lot of people think that in this hiring environment, it's wiser to take on less debt and spend less time out of the workforce, but be aware that a lot of firms are aware which programs are 3 years versus 4 and have different ideas of each's worth.

Dec 5, 2011
A Posse Ad Esse:

For what it's worth, having looked heavily into the JD/MBA degree as I was researching for my applications, a 3-year degree is not respected as well as the 4 year options. I can't be bothered to dig out the article, but I believe one of the deans at SLS who was on their action committee when it came up for debate (switching from their 4-year flagship offering to the 3-year everyone seems to favor) simply said, "We considered it because of the competition for students," says Mr. Kramer. "Unaltered, the programs are five years' worth of study. To cut 40% was just not responsible." (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124277262053136545...).
A lot of people think that in this hiring environment, it's wiser to take on less debt and spend less time out of the workforce, but be aware that a lot of firms are aware which programs are 3 years versus 4 and have different ideas of each's worth.

Penn and Columbia offer both a 3-year and 4-year jd/mba programs. And northwestern offers just the 3-year program. From what I have seen, the northwestern students did just fine with job placements, and I don't see any evidence that recruiters are wary because the program was 3 as opposed to 4 years.

Dec 3, 2011

Do you have work experience? This matters a lot.

Also, to echo the above question: What are your career goals?

Mar 21, 2017

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Dec 3, 2011

Im thinking even if the MBA might not help me all that much now, it will help if I ever want to lateral out of law into business later on in my career. Am I wrong?

Dec 3, 2011

An MBA is not going to help you much academically. In my opinion, the degree is essentially just a right of passage.

A JD is much more respected and you will actually learn a lot.

All in all, if you plan on doing corp fin down the road (corpdev/M&A) a JD/MBA will help out greatly.

Dec 3, 2011

In my opinion, down the road your MBA will be worthless. From what i have learned about MBA it is only useful as a way to get a job immediately when you graduate or when your company requires it for promotion. It is also useful for the network. It is pretty much worthless down the line say in 5-10years. In 5-10 years you will be the same as anyone else applying for the job and only your network, recommendations and experience will matter. I see plenty of lawyers switching to IB or corp finance without an MBA, but because they've done a good job and have a strong network. IF you are a corporate lawyer you will constantly interact with people all over banking so opportunities to develop relationships are huge.

That said it doesn't seem that an MBA will cost you much more so it might be a viable option, just make sure it doesn't make your JD look weaker.

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Dec 3, 2011

Ya, that doesn't make sense. Most people will respect a JD/MBA from accredited institutions.

Dec 3, 2011

JD/MBA sends a mixed message - Are you a lawyer or a banker? While it might be a plus to have law experience in banking I think JD looks stronger in the eyes of law firms.

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Dec 4, 2011
bossman:

JD/MBA sends a mixed message - Are you a lawyer or a banker? While it might be a plus to have law experience in banking I think JD looks stronger in the eyes of law firms.

This is so fucking dumb it isn't even funny.

Knowing the law in an area of finance sends no mixed signals. Go work in M&A for an A&D firm or other large F500 and see how much value an MBA holds against a JD.

Dec 4, 2011
Nefarious-:
bossman:

JD/MBA sends a mixed message - Are you a lawyer or a banker? While it might be a plus to have law experience in banking I think JD looks stronger in the eyes of law firms.

This is so fucking dumb it isn't even funny.

Knowing the law in an area of finance sends no mixed signals. Go work in M&A for an A&D firm or other large F500 and see how much value an MBA holds against a JD.

Actually, he's right. There is a pretty common sentiment that jd/mba's often have a hard time finding legal jobs because of hw bad the market is for lawyers and firms see them as flight risks. And dude, you don't really learn shit in law school the same as MBA programs.

Dec 4, 2011
bears1208:
Nefarious-:
bossman:

JD/MBA sends a mixed message - Are you a lawyer or a banker? While it might be a plus to have law experience in banking I think JD looks stronger in the eyes of law firms.

This is so fucking dumb it isn't even funny.

Knowing the law in an area of finance sends no mixed signals. Go work in M&A for an A&D firm or other large F500 and see how much value an MBA holds against a JD.

Actually, he's right. There is a pretty common sentiment that jd/mba's often have a hard time finding legal jobs because of hw bad the market is for lawyers and firms see them as flight risks. And dude, you don't really learn shit in law school the same as MBA programs.

Actually, he is not right. Not everyone that goes to law school is interested in becoming a criminal defense lawyer, or even working for a law firm.

And you are not right. You learn a lot in law school.

Dec 4, 2011
Nefarious-:
bears1208:
Nefarious-:
bossman:

JD/MBA sends a mixed message - Are you a lawyer or a banker? While it might be a plus to have law experience in banking I think JD looks stronger in the eyes of law firms.

This is so fucking dumb it isn't even funny.

Knowing the law in an area of finance sends no mixed signals. Go work in M&A for an A&D firm or other large F500 and see how much value an MBA holds against a JD.

Actually, he's right. There is a pretty common sentiment that jd/mba's often have a hard time finding legal jobs because of hw bad the market is for lawyers and firms see them as flight risks. And dude, you don't really learn shit in law school the same as MBA programs.

Actually, he is not right. Not everyone that goes to law school is interested in becoming a criminal defense lawyer, or even working for a law firm.

And you are not right. You learn a lot in law school.

This post makes it pretty clear you have no fucking idea wtf you are talking about in re: law school. No one who's been through law school will tell you they learned a lot of applicable knowledge, going to law school to get a non legal job is a fucking terrible idea, and when we talk about firm work we generally are talking about corporate legal jobs, not criminal defense.

OP, you'll get better and much more informed comments on top-law-schools.com

Dec 4, 2011
bears1208:
Nefarious-:
bears1208:
Nefarious-:
bossman:

JD/MBA sends a mixed message - Are you a lawyer or a banker? While it might be a plus to have law experience in banking I think JD looks stronger in the eyes of law firms.

This is so fucking dumb it isn't even funny.

Knowing the law in an area of finance sends no mixed signals. Go work in M&A for an A&D firm or other large F500 and see how much value an MBA holds against a JD.

Actually, he's right. There is a pretty common sentiment that jd/mba's often have a hard time finding legal jobs because of hw bad the market is for lawyers and firms see them as flight risks. And dude, you don't really learn shit in law school the same as MBA programs.

Actually, he is not right. Not everyone that goes to law school is interested in becoming a criminal defense lawyer, or even working for a law firm.

And you are not right. You learn a lot in law school.

This post makes it pretty clear you have no fucking idea wtf you are talking about in re: law school. No one who's been through law school will tell you they learned a lot of applicable knowledge, going to law school to get a non legal job is a fucking terrible idea, and when we talk about firm work we generally are talking about corporate legal jobs, not criminal defense.

OP, you'll get better and much more informed comments on top-law-schools.com

Are you still in college?

Dec 4, 2011
bears1208:
Nefarious-:
bears1208:
Nefarious-:
bossman:

JD/MBA sends a mixed message - Are you a lawyer or a banker? While it might be a plus to have law experience in banking I think JD looks stronger in the eyes of law firms.

This is so fucking dumb it isn't even funny.

Knowing the law in an area of finance sends no mixed signals. Go work in M&A for an A&D firm or other large F500 and see how much value an MBA holds against a JD.

Actually, he's right. There is a pretty common sentiment that jd/mba's often have a hard time finding legal jobs because of hw bad the market is for lawyers and firms see them as flight risks. And dude, you don't really learn shit in law school the same as MBA programs.

Actually, he is not right. Not everyone that goes to law school is interested in becoming a criminal defense lawyer, or even working for a law firm.

And you are not right. You learn a lot in law school.

This post makes it pretty clear you have no fucking idea wtf you are talking about in re: law school. No one who's been through law school will tell you they learned a lot of applicable knowledge, going to law school to get a non legal job is a fucking terrible idea, and when we talk about firm work we generally are talking about corporate legal jobs, not criminal defense.

OP, you'll get better and much more informed comments on top-law-schools.com

You certainly learn a lot in law school the first year at least. I'm a college student and I know this because one of my friends is in law school and HE(tells me from his own mouth) that he learns a shit load in law school. He goes to top 10 law school btw.

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Dec 4, 2011
blackfinancier:
bears1208:
Nefarious-:
bears1208:
Nefarious-:
bossman:

JD/MBA sends a mixed message - Are you a lawyer or a banker? While it might be a plus to have law experience in banking I think JD looks stronger in the eyes of law firms.

This is so fucking dumb it isn't even funny.

Knowing the law in an area of finance sends no mixed signals. Go work in M&A for an A&D firm or other large F500 and see how much value an MBA holds against a JD.

Actually, he's right. There is a pretty common sentiment that jd/mba's often have a hard time finding legal jobs because of hw bad the market is for lawyers and firms see them as flight risks. And dude, you don't really learn shit in law school the same as MBA programs.

Actually, he is not right. Not everyone that goes to law school is interested in becoming a criminal defense lawyer, or even working for a law firm.

And you are not right. You learn a lot in law school.

This post makes it pretty clear you have no fucking idea wtf you are talking about in re: law school. No one who's been through law school will tell you they learned a lot of applicable knowledge, going to law school to get a non legal job is a fucking terrible idea, and when we talk about firm work we generally are talking about corporate legal jobs, not criminal defense.

OP, you'll get better and much more informed comments on top-law-schools.com

You certainly learn a lot in law school the first year at least. I'm a college student and I know this because one of my friends is in law school and HE(tells me from his own mouth) that he learns a shit load in law school. He goes to top 10 law school btw.

Having multiple lawyers in the family and the fact that i'm currently dating a girl at a top law school who also has a big law wall street job has made me pretty familiar with the what goes on. It's a ton of information and you learn a lot, none of which, outside of legal writing, is actually helpful in your job.

Mar 21, 2017

hmmmm

Dec 5, 2011

What are your grades in law school? A JD is no free ticket to a great job, even at a great school like Cornell. Many people with mediocre experience/GPA/ECs end up taking jobs that didn't even require passing the bar or going into debt.

Dec 5, 2011

You probably know this, but --- I think if you're someone who is interested to going into corporate law - m&a or something else with a lot of business considerations - adding the MBA could be valuable. The key thing, however, as some people have alluded too, is that your law grades have to be REALLY GOOD to get a good big law gig these days. Obviously Cornell is a strong law school being in the lower part of the V-14, but it's still not H-Y-S, and you're going to need to good grades. So I guess what I'm saying is: don't let getting the MBA screw up your law school grades.

Dec 5, 2011

I can make up internet networks as well.

Lloyd Blankfein is in mine.

You still ignored my question about whether or not you are still in college.

Dec 5, 2011
Nefarious-:

I can make up internet networks as well.

Lloyd Blankfein is in mine.

You still ignored my question about whether or not you are still in college.

I didn't answer the question because you already knew I am an untraditional senior. And you were attempting to build a fallacious and idiotic ad hominem argument went your posts made it clear to anyone with an passing level of knowledge that you clearly don't understand what you are talking about I regards to law school. As to whether I made up the network, I guess that's a fair concern, but if you had any knowledge of the legal market you would probably doubt it less.

OP, sorry for the side tangent. I don't necessarily have the b school knowledge but my understanding is, that if you are sure you want to work as a lawyer, you are better off taking on less debt and less risk of being perceived as a flight risk. This is especially true if you don't have the work experience commiserate with someone in a top mba program. I'll let someone else answer the question about cornell's mba program.

Dec 5, 2011
bears1208:
Nefarious-:

I can make up internet networks as well.

Lloyd Blankfein is in mine.

You still ignored my question about whether or not you are still in college.

I didn't answer the question because you already knew I am an untraditional senior. And you were attempting to build a fallacious and idiotic ad hominem argument went your posts made it clear to anyone with an passing level of knowledge that you clearly don't understand what you are talking about I regards to law school. As to whether I made up the network, I guess that's a fair concern, but if you had any knowledge of the legal market you would probably doubt it less.

OP, sorry for the side tangent. I don't necessarily have the b school knowledge but my understanding is, that if you are sure you want to work as a lawyer, you are better off taking on less debt and less risk of being perceived as a flight risk. This is especially true if you don't have the work experience commiserate with someone in a top mba program. I'll let someone else answer the question about cornell's mba program.

K. That is what I thought.

The next time you feel like adding value to a thread, realize you hold only a high school diploma, have no real world experience and thus, have no value to add.

Dec 5, 2011
Nefarious-:
bears1208:
Nefarious-:

I can make up internet networks as well.

Lloyd Blankfein is in mine.

You still ignored my question about whether or not you are still in college.

I didn't answer the question because you already knew I am an untraditional senior. And you were attempting to build a fallacious and idiotic ad hominem argument went your posts made it clear to anyone with an passing level of knowledge that you clearly don't understand what you are talking about I regards to law school. As to whether I made up the network, I guess that's a fair concern, but if you had any knowledge of the legal market you would probably doubt it less.

OP, sorry for the side tangent. I don't necessarily have the b school knowledge but my understanding is, that if you are sure you want to work as a lawyer, you are better off taking on less debt and less risk of being perceived as a flight risk. This is especially true if you don't have the work experience commiserate with someone in a top mba program. I'll let someone else answer the question about cornell's mba program.

K. That is what I thought.

The next time you feel like adding value to a thread, realize you hold only a high school diploma, have no real world experience and thus, have no value to add.

LOL

Bro, if there is one thing that this thread has made abundantly clear, it's that you are a fucking idiot. I'll even put aside the fact that you were talking out of your ass about law school and the legal market. Or that, when questioned, you were unable to offer any argument other than "I'M RIGHT AND YOU ARE WRONG AND YOU ARE LYING ABOUT ANY EVIDENCE YOU MAY HAVE". I'll even put aside that after I called you out for an ad hominem, and the OP confirmed at least one of my points you were arguing was correct and you were wrong, you still used the argument like a fucking child. But then you even made the last, very LOL worthy assumption, that because I happen to be a senior in college that you must have more real world experience than mine even after I made it clear to point out to you that I was a non-traditional.

I've seen your posts about corporate finance and they often have some value. But when it comes to law school you really need to let others, who are actually informed, give the advice. Google around a little, you'll find that much of what I said is actually common knowledge among those informed.

And here, just to get you started, sift through this link and read about all the JD's who not only can't find legal work, but they can't find any legitimate work: http://abovethelaw.com/career-alternatives/

Dec 5, 2011
bears1208:
Nefarious-:
bears1208:
Nefarious-:

I can make up internet networks as well.

Lloyd Blankfein is in mine.

You still ignored my question about whether or not you are still in college.

I didn't answer the question because you already knew I am an untraditional senior. And you were attempting to build a fallacious and idiotic ad hominem argument went your posts made it clear to anyone with an passing level of knowledge that you clearly don't understand what you are talking about I regards to law school. As to whether I made up the network, I guess that's a fair concern, but if you had any knowledge of the legal market you would probably doubt it less.

OP, sorry for the side tangent. I don't necessarily have the b school knowledge but my understanding is, that if you are sure you want to work as a lawyer, you are better off taking on less debt and less risk of being perceived as a flight risk. This is especially true if you don't have the work experience commiserate with someone in a top mba program. I'll let someone else answer the question about cornell's mba program.

K. That is what I thought.

The next time you feel like adding value to a thread, realize you hold only a high school diploma, have no real world experience and thus, have no value to add.

LOL

Bro, if there is one thing that this thread has made abundantly clear, it's that you are a fucking idiot. I'll even put aside the fact that you were talking out of your ass about law school and the legal market. Or that, when questioned, you were unable to offer any argument other than "I'M RIGHT AND YOU ARE WRONG AND YOU ARE LYING ABOUT ANY EVIDENCE YOU MAY HAVE". I'll even put aside that after I called you out for an ad hominem, and the OP confirmed at least one of my points you were arguing was correct and you were wrong, you still used the argument like a fucking child. But then you even made the last, very LOL worthy assumption, that because I happen to be a senior in college that you must have more real world experience than mine even after I made it clear to point out to you that I was a non-traditional.

I've seen your posts about corporate finance and they often have some value. But when it comes to law school you really need to let others, who are actually informed, give the advice. Google around a little, you'll find that much of what I said is actually common knowledge among those informed.

And here, just to get you started, sift through this link and read about all the JD's who not only can't find legal work, but they can't find any legitimate work: http://abovethelaw.com/career-alternatives/

blah blah blah. If you think I am going to read anything from you you are out of your mind, let alone a ridiculous wall of text that starts off with "bro."

Again, a high school diploma and no work experience adds no value to anyone. It is as if your opinions and thoughts in the world don't even exist.

Have a nice day.

Dec 5, 2011
Nefarious-:
bears1208:
Nefarious-:
bears1208:
Nefarious-:

I can make up internet networks as well.

Lloyd Blankfein is in mine.

You still ignored my question about whether or not you are still in college.

I didn't answer the question because you already knew I am an untraditional senior. And you were attempting to build a fallacious and idiotic ad hominem argument went your posts made it clear to anyone with an passing level of knowledge that you clearly don't understand what you are talking about I regards to law school. As to whether I made up the network, I guess that's a fair concern, but if you had any knowledge of the legal market you would probably doubt it less.

OP, sorry for the side tangent. I don't necessarily have the b school knowledge but my understanding is, that if you are sure you want to work as a lawyer, you are better off taking on less debt and less risk of being perceived as a flight risk. This is especially true if you don't have the work experience commiserate with someone in a top mba program. I'll let someone else answer the question about cornell's mba program.

K. That is what I thought.

The next time you feel like adding value to a thread, realize you hold only a high school diploma, have no real world experience and thus, have no value to add.

LOL

Bro, if there is one thing that this thread has made abundantly clear, it's that you are a fucking idiot. I'll even put aside the fact that you were talking out of your ass about law school and the legal market. Or that, when questioned, you were unable to offer any argument other than "I'M RIGHT AND YOU ARE WRONG AND YOU ARE LYING ABOUT ANY EVIDENCE YOU MAY HAVE". I'll even put aside that after I called you out for an ad hominem, and the OP confirmed at least one of my points you were arguing was correct and you were wrong, you still used the argument like a fucking child. But then you even made the last, very LOL worthy assumption, that because I happen to be a senior in college that you must have more real world experience than mine even after I made it clear to point out to you that I was a non-traditional.

I've seen your posts about corporate finance and they often have some value. But when it comes to law school you really need to let others, who are actually informed, give the advice. Google around a little, you'll find that much of what I said is actually common knowledge among those informed.

And here, just to get you started, sift through this link and read about all the JD's who not only can't find legal work, but they can't find any legitimate work: http://abovethelaw.com/career-alternatives/

blah blah blah. If you think I am going to read anything from you you are out of your mind, let alone a ridiculous wall of text that starts off with "bro."

Again, a high school diploma and no work experience adds no value to anyone. It is as if your opinions and thoughts in the world don't even exist.

Have a nice day.

Jesus, you really should have read the post before you embarrassed yourself with this one.

Though my gut tells me you did read it, felt embarrassed, and decided to try and brush it off to save face. Your best bet is probably not to reply at all so we can stop hijacking OP's thread with a slideshow of how stupid you are.

Dec 5, 2011
bears1208:
Nefarious-:
bears1208:
Nefarious-:
bears1208:
Nefarious-:

I can make up internet networks as well.

Lloyd Blankfein is in mine.

You still ignored my question about whether or not you are still in college.

I didn't answer the question because you already knew I am an untraditional senior. And you were attempting to build a fallacious and idiotic ad hominem argument went your posts made it clear to anyone with an passing level of knowledge that you clearly don't understand what you are talking about I regards to law school. As to whether I made up the network, I guess that's a fair concern, but if you had any knowledge of the legal market you would probably doubt it less.

OP, sorry for the side tangent. I don't necessarily have the b school knowledge but my understanding is, that if you are sure you want to work as a lawyer, you are better off taking on less debt and less risk of being perceived as a flight risk. This is especially true if you don't have the work experience commiserate with someone in a top mba program. I'll let someone else answer the question about cornell's mba program.

K. That is what I thought.

The next time you feel like adding value to a thread, realize you hold only a high school diploma, have no real world experience and thus, have no value to add.

LOL

Bro, if there is one thing that this thread has made abundantly clear, it's that you are a fucking idiot. I'll even put aside the fact that you were talking out of your ass about law school and the legal market. Or that, when questioned, you were unable to offer any argument other than "I'M RIGHT AND YOU ARE WRONG AND YOU ARE LYING ABOUT ANY EVIDENCE YOU MAY HAVE". I'll even put aside that after I called you out for an ad hominem, and the OP confirmed at least one of my points you were arguing was correct and you were wrong, you still used the argument like a fucking child. But then you even made the last, very LOL worthy assumption, that because I happen to be a senior in college that you must have more real world experience than mine even after I made it clear to point out to you that I was a non-traditional.

I've seen your posts about corporate finance and they often have some value. But when it comes to law school you really need to let others, who are actually informed, give the advice. Google around a little, you'll find that much of what I said is actually common knowledge among those informed.

And here, just to get you started, sift through this link and read about all the JD's who not only can't find legal work, but they can't find any legitimate work: http://abovethelaw.com/career-alternatives/

blah blah blah. If you think I am going to read anything from you you are out of your mind, let alone a ridiculous wall of text that starts off with "bro."

Again, a high school diploma and no work experience adds no value to anyone. It is as if your opinions and thoughts in the world don't even exist.

Have a nice day.

Jesus, you really should have read the post before you embarrassed yourself with this one.

Though my gut tells me you did read it, felt embarrassed, and decided to try and brush it off to save face. Your best bet is probably not to reply at all so we can stop hijacking OP's thread with a slideshow of how stupid you are.

nah, didn't read it.

stop getting mad because someone told you you add no value and just accept you are useless to the world.

Dec 5, 2011
Nefarious-:
bears1208:
Nefarious-:
bears1208:
Nefarious-:
bears1208:
Nefarious-:

I can make up internet networks as well.

Lloyd Blankfein is in mine.

You still ignored my question about whether or not you are still in college.

I didn't answer the question because you already knew I am an untraditional senior. And you were attempting to build a fallacious and idiotic ad hominem argument went your posts made it clear to anyone with an passing level of knowledge that you clearly don't understand what you are talking about I regards to law school. As to whether I made up the network, I guess that's a fair concern, but if you had any knowledge of the legal market you would probably doubt it less.

OP, sorry for the side tangent. I don't necessarily have the b school knowledge but my understanding is, that if you are sure you want to work as a lawyer, you are better off taking on less debt and less risk of being perceived as a flight risk. This is especially true if you don't have the work experience commiserate with someone in a top mba program. I'll let someone else answer the question about cornell's mba program.

K. That is what I thought.

The next time you feel like adding value to a thread, realize you hold only a high school diploma, have no real world experience and thus, have no value to add.

LOL

Bro, if there is one thing that this thread has made abundantly clear, it's that you are a fucking idiot. I'll even put aside the fact that you were talking out of your ass about law school and the legal market. Or that, when questioned, you were unable to offer any argument other than "I'M RIGHT AND YOU ARE WRONG AND YOU ARE LYING ABOUT ANY EVIDENCE YOU MAY HAVE". I'll even put aside that after I called you out for an ad hominem, and the OP confirmed at least one of my points you were arguing was correct and you were wrong, you still used the argument like a fucking child. But then you even made the last, very LOL worthy assumption, that because I happen to be a senior in college that you must have more real world experience than mine even after I made it clear to point out to you that I was a non-traditional.

I've seen your posts about corporate finance and they often have some value. But when it comes to law school you really need to let others, who are actually informed, give the advice. Google around a little, you'll find that much of what I said is actually common knowledge among those informed.

And here, just to get you started, sift through this link and read about all the JD's who not only can't find legal work, but they can't find any legitimate work: http://abovethelaw.com/career-alternatives/

blah blah blah. If you think I am going to read anything from you you are out of your mind, let alone a ridiculous wall of text that starts off with "bro."

Again, a high school diploma and no work experience adds no value to anyone. It is as if your opinions and thoughts in the world don't even exist.

Have a nice day.

Jesus, you really should have read the post before you embarrassed yourself with this one.

Though my gut tells me you did read it, felt embarrassed, and decided to try and brush it off to save face. Your best bet is probably not to reply at all so we can stop hijacking OP's thread with a slideshow of how stupid you are.

nah, didn't read it.

stop getting mad because someone told you you add no value and just accept you are useless to the world.

Ok, well since we need to stop hijacking OP's thread so he can get his question answered i'll point out the one thing you couldn't comprehend despite being said multiple times. I'm non-traditional and judging from your other posts I have probably at least as much, if not more, "real world experience" as you do. So despite the fact that you have made yourself look like a fucking idiot with your blustering ignorant comments about law school, your main argument (which is logically fallacious anyways because it's an ad hominem) is not even true.

Now how about we stop shitting up OP's thread.

Mar 21, 2017
Dec 5, 2011

If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses - Henry Ford