CV for consulting - MBB London - Can't figure out why no call

Hi All

I am trying to get into strategy consulting and my CV was recently rejected by McK.

I had put in a lot of work on tailoring my CV for McK and thus am trying to understand what else I can highlight in my CV. I thought I had covered all the bases....I guess not.

I would really appreciate any feedback. I do thank you for your time :)

Cheers.

vcsush

http://www.razume.com/documents/28588

 

LOL, haven't even heard of Cranfield. So stop trying to troll with your college's ranking, in terms of preftige it isn't even top 30.

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SonnyZH:
LOL, haven't even heard of Cranfield. So stop trying to troll with your college's ranking, in terms of preftige it isn't even top 30.

Sonny...thank you for your comment. Cranfield is rather well known in the UK. May I ask if you observed anything else that you think would give me an advantage if changed. Thank you.

 
vcsush:
Sonny...thank you for your comment. Cranfield is rather well known in the UK. May I ask if you observed anything else that you think would give me an advantage if changed. Thank you.

if they're well known you won't have to describe them. if you had to describe them they're not well known. so are they well known or not?

 

man... dont try to explain them how preftigeous each of places you worked at is... it sounds very very very lame..

just relax, dont write stuff in brackets (although this might be super hard for you) they know the employers and schools very well and have their own preferences and rankings

 

i'm glad you described RBS, i'd never heard of them before, are they just based in Scotland, like a regional boutique?

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animalz:
man... dont try to explain them how preftigeous each of places you worked at is... it sounds very very very lame..

just relax, dont write stuff in brackets (although this might be super hard for you) they know the employers and schools very well and have their own preferences and rankings

Animalz...thank you for your comment. I had talked to someone at a consulting firm who had mentioned that it is a good idea to quantify everything...which is why I had put in as many numbers as possible in order to understand the size of the stuff in the CV. Additionally, most of the companies I worked at initially are local, small time companies. I wasn't really going for the prestige angle but you are right and it may be viewed that way. I am sure you are right in saying McK would be aware of the employers and rankings of schools.

May I ask the reasoning behind your recommendation that I cut down on the brackets? Thank you for your response.

Oreos:
i'm glad you described RBS, i'd never heard of them before, are they just based in Scotland, like a regional boutique?

Oreos, RBS, although based in Scotland, is actually spread all over the UK...and had its fingers in all sorts of pies (financial, insurance etc)...until the FSA asked it to get out of non core stuff :)

 
vcsush:
Oreos:
i'm glad you described RBS, i'd never heard of them before, are they just based in Scotland, like a regional boutique?

Oreos, RBS, although based in Scotland, is actually spread all over the UK...and had its fingers in all sorts of pies (financial, insurance etc)...until the FSA asked it to get out of non core stuff :)

Dude you're so smart at detecting sarcasm. I can't believe a smart guy like you didn't get a call from MBB

 
Best Response

Yeah the ranking, Fortune 100 thing doesn't work in your favor in my opinion. So I'd recommend to take off the brackets. On the formatting, of course keep it in 1 page. Also, I'm not an expert on consulting by any means, but everything you list seems focused on operational improvements wheras you mention being interested in "strategy consulting". Maybe work on improving that? At least try to show that it's where your interests lie. Also, and please don't take this the wrong way, but maybe MBB is a bit ambitious / not the best fit for your profile? I am under the impression that they look for "brands" (top MBA, BB IBD etc) in lateral hires, and frankly speaking I typically see MBB constultants go to M7 or in europe IMD or Insead. Also the fact that you're presumably already around 30 yr old / lots of experience could play against your favour, as I'd expect they'd rather take junior people if you can't lateral at EM level etc. Maybe some elite boutiques / Big 4 would appreciate your profile more?

 
f4tality:
Yeah the ranking, Fortune 100 thing doesn't work in your favor in my opinion. So I'd recommend to take off the brackets. On the formatting, of course keep it in 1 page. Also, I'm not an expert on consulting by any means, but everything you list seems focused on operational improvements wheras you mention being interested in "strategy consulting". Maybe work on improving that? At least try to show that it's where your interests lie. Also, and please don't take this the wrong way, but maybe MBB is a bit ambitious / not the best fit for your profile? I am under the impression that they look for "brands" (top MBA, BB IBD etc) in lateral hires, and frankly speaking I typically see MBB constultants go to M7 or in europe IMD or Insead. Also the fact that you're presumably already around 30 yr old / lots of experience could play against your favour, as I'd expect they'd rather take junior people if you can't lateral at EM level etc. Maybe some elite boutiques / Big 4 would appreciate your profile more?

f4...thank you for your comments. I do appreciate that most of my achievements are in the arena of ops improvement and thus your recommendation of working to improve the strategy consulting bit is probably the right thing to do. Alas...I can't do anything about the age / experience / credentials, but I do concede, after much soul searching on what I do possess at this moment in time, that the Big 4 would probably be a better fit.

Thank you. I found your comments most insightful.

F. Ro Jo:
vcsush:
Sonny...thank you for your comment. Cranfield is rather well known in the UK. May I ask if you observed anything else that you think would give me an advantage if changed. Thank you.

if they're well known you won't have to describe them. if you had to describe them they're not well known. so are they well known or not?

Jo, Cranfield is known in the UK. I had sent off my application to McKinsey in Germany (they were co-ordinating an event I wanted to get into) which is why I had listed its ranking. But I would definitely agree with your logic. Nice name btw :)

 
f4tality:
Yeah the ranking, Fortune 100 thing doesn't work in your favor in my opinion. So I'd recommend to take off the brackets. On the formatting, of course keep it in 1 page. Also, I'm not an expert on consulting by any means, but everything you list seems focused on operational improvements wheras you mention being interested in "strategy consulting". Maybe work on improving that? At least try to show that it's where your interests lie. Also, and please don't take this the wrong way, but maybe MBB is a bit ambitious / not the best fit for your profile? I am under the impression that they look for "brands" (top MBA, BB IBD etc) in lateral hires, and frankly speaking I typically see MBB constultants go to M7 or in europe IMD or Insead. Also the fact that you're presumably already around 30 yr old / lots of experience could play against your favour, as I'd expect they'd rather take junior people if you can't lateral at EM level etc. Maybe some elite boutiques / Big 4 would appreciate your profile more?

I agree completely with this. As well, about the descriptions in brackets: take them out. It definitely looks like you're trying to play the prestige angle; if you're looking to describe them, simply state their annual revenue and business/strategic focus. HOWEVER, you already worked for RBS - if your experience was good enough for them, it probably doesn't need any descriptions at all. Hence, everyone's (and my own) advice: take them out.

On a more specific note: take out the entire section you have describing your musician experience. Rewrite it and instead of describing achievements anyone could just as easily write on their resume (I raised a ton of money too, prove me wrong?) state the specific venues you performed at and speak of specific media coverage you may have had (1000+ people, even in 2000, would have attracted at least internet media outlets).

An "Additional Info" section may not hurt - this is up to you.

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FSC:

I agree completely with this. As well, about the descriptions in brackets: take them out. It definitely looks like you're trying to play the prestige angle; if you're looking to describe them, simply state their annual revenue and business/strategic focus. HOWEVER, you already worked for RBS - if your experience was good enough for them, it probably doesn't need any descriptions at all. Hence, everyone's (and my own) advice: take them out.

On a more specific note: take out the entire section you have describing your musician experience. Rewrite it and instead of describing achievements anyone could just as easily write on their resume (I raised a ton of money too, prove me wrong?) state the specific venues you performed at and speak of specific media coverage you may have had (1000+ people, even in 2000, would have attracted at least internet media outlets).

An "Additional Info" section may not hurt - this is up to you.

FSC, thank you for your comments. I do see why you made the recommendation about the music section and I will definitely change that. May I also thank you for suggesting an alternate way to represent the companies sans the prestige angle. I will definitely change the descriptions to match the annual revenue and the focus.

Thank you for your time.

 

Another genius with all the answers.

Quoting myself from another thread:

F. Ro Jo:
Now you're just being defensive.

Us: Something could be the problem. You: Nah it can't be I'm golden. And so on, and so on.

If you were golden you wouldn't be getting dinged einstein.

 
vcsush:
NewGuy:
Your CV isn't preftigious enough for Accenture let alone McK brother

NewGuy, thank you for looking through my CV. May I ask you to kindly elaborate! Maybe there are things that I could possibly do in the near future to makeup for the missing prestige.

Again, thank you for your feedback.

Sure. Things you can do

  1. Go back in time
  2. Go to better schools and work for better firms in more preftigious departments
  3. ???
  4. PROFIT

You should try firms like Cap Gemini, big 4 consulting etc. Probably have a better chance there.

 
F. Ro Jo:
Okay you're getting dinged because you're awkward.

End of story.

F.Ro, thank you for that. This merits a further looking into. May I ask you to elaborate. I would like to understand your point of view and the application of the term awkward in this context.

Thank you for your time.

 
vcsush:

I would like to understand your point of view

You're awkward

vcsush:
the application of the term awkward in this context.

Awkward = you.

But seriously, nobody's is going to hire somebody off-putting in a client-facing position. That's just the nature of the industry. If you were able to make it to client-facing positions in other locales despite your demeanor I'd suggest you look into front office positions there instead, since it would appear that you'd be a much better fit culturally.

 

Wow haven't read the prior posts yet, I want to keep my opinion unbiased.

Mistake 1, telling me hoe good your universities are. I know which are the presitigious uni's and have never heard of Cranfield. Did a little league table check and it came 140th.

Self taught musician isn't a job, it's a hobby - in fact you have no interests on this CV, not even a one liner of what you like

You have changed jobs every two or three years and over five times. Not good when you consider how much goes into training a consultant.

Your job descriptions are actually pretty good but there is no personality here whatsover. In fact no personality and no clear easy to read format.

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