Donald Trump: Shamelessly Clueless or 4D Chess Master?

Been having this debate with some buddies ever since he gained traction on the campaign trail. Some of my friends insist that he is marketing genius who is well aware of the reactions his actions provoke and thus premeditates his every move perfectly. I personally don't buy that and think he's just a guy with a lot of balls and charisma and for that reason his relatively naive voter base sticks with him no matter how many times he misfires.

What does everyone think? Mastermind or Random Fuckery?

 

The dude absolutely controlled the news, beat every big money republicans and the most prepared and funded Democrat. He talked about Romney getting on his knees, put the pope in his place, mocked every big time senator and got elected without traditional campaigning or big money donors.

But yeah, trumps basically a moron who got lucky.

Edit

This naive voter base meme is a joke as well. He did perfectly fine with college educated voters. He got a higher % of the black vote than Romney or McCain. He won 3 blue states that Dems thought they owned.

People are largely sick of politicians who are morons but present themselves as geniuses. Of the educated elite Aka Krugman who think they know better but when given the keys fall flat on their face.

 
Best Response

Looks like Trump bashing at first, but yeah.

Trump is was "lucky" enough to turn $1mm into $10bn while tripping and fumbling into the White House and managed to beat half of the world while yelling random shit that just happened to appeal to everyone.

For the readers here, 60% of whites voted for Trump. If you're a Trump basher, there is a good chance that many of your friends voted Trump and will even bash him with you without you ever knowing.

You are just embarrassing yourself.

Let me hear you say, this shit is bananas, B-A-N-A-N-A-S!
 

Don't get why people keep pushing this narrative that Trump's demographic splits are supposed to justify his presidency.

-He dominated non-educated whites by historic margins. -Educated white people have voted in favor of Republicans over Democrats with larger margins for Romney and McCain. -Yes he did slightly better with African Americans than those two, but he didn't run against a black presidential candidate... Seriously dude, non-educated white people put him in office. Whether that's good or bad is up for debate, but I really don't see how any other realistic narrative exists.

Also, he did control the news. He did it because he was the only one that could realistically afford to take the chance of running on a platform of bigotry (it certainly wasn't a platform of strong policy). If Cruz had done something similar and it ended up back firing, his career would be over. If it backfired on Trump (is Obama a Kenyan muslim?), well, he's still rich.

 

Bigotry lol. A platform on jobs, infrastructure, etc all becomes bigotry in your mind.

And those uneducated white voters who gave trump the win are called blue collar voters and union people, the bedrock of the democrat party until the this past election.

Gotta love how non educated voters are used against trump when the dem party is built on the back of poor, uneducated minoroties.

Sorry, try again.

 

Literally every single candidate starts screaming jobs, protectionism and investment when election season roles around. I really don't understand why you think that's what separated Trump from the other candidates. You really think he would have gotten that much media coverage had he only talked about jobs? How many other candidates called illegal immigrants rapists, murderers and drug dealers? How many of them preferred veterans that weren't captured?

 

He's a mastermind. He has not lost yet. Your friends are brilliant. Most people are followers, but they truly know their shit.

If you don't believe me, read the Scott Adams Blog

Let me hear you say, this shit is bananas, B-A-N-A-N-A-S!
 

Unde consectetur illo laudantium quis ab. Magni culpa harum corrupti ex vitae maiores neque. Sequi aut rerum deserunt inventore adipisci. Occaecati aliquam quis repellendus ad nesciunt inventore vel nostrum.

Accusantium aut non mollitia dolorum sint vero est qui. Reiciendis quo ut nobis numquam saepe itaque perspiciatis aliquam. Omnis qui qui odit quasi cupiditate. Repudiandae aperiam minus architecto sit rem. Est sit accusamus autem nihil ab ut rerum.

Ut eius assumenda libero maiores consequuntur. Inventore ratione labore architecto optio hic nisi repellat. Quam cum odit officia nesciunt.

Aut et vel non laudantium. Veniam libero earum enim vero praesentium dolores magni quia. Facilis consequatur aut est recusandae. Esse recusandae vero et non at explicabo aut. Et in occaecati omnis ipsum aperiam. Sequi et animi natus fugit totam eum.

Career Advancement Opportunities

April 2024 Investment Banking

  • Jefferies & Company 02 99.4%
  • Goldman Sachs 19 98.8%
  • Harris Williams & Co. New 98.3%
  • Lazard Freres 02 97.7%
  • JPMorgan Chase 03 97.1%

Overall Employee Satisfaction

April 2024 Investment Banking

  • Harris Williams & Co. 18 99.4%
  • JPMorgan Chase 10 98.8%
  • Lazard Freres 05 98.3%
  • Morgan Stanley 07 97.7%
  • William Blair 03 97.1%

Professional Growth Opportunities

April 2024 Investment Banking

  • Lazard Freres 01 99.4%
  • Jefferies & Company 02 98.8%
  • Goldman Sachs 17 98.3%
  • Moelis & Company 07 97.7%
  • JPMorgan Chase 05 97.1%

Total Avg Compensation

April 2024 Investment Banking

  • Director/MD (5) $648
  • Vice President (19) $385
  • Associates (87) $260
  • 3rd+ Year Analyst (14) $181
  • Intern/Summer Associate (33) $170
  • 2nd Year Analyst (66) $168
  • 1st Year Analyst (205) $159
  • Intern/Summer Analyst (146) $101
notes
16 IB Interviews Notes

“... there’s no excuse to not take advantage of the resources out there available to you. Best value for your $ are the...”

Leaderboard

1
redever's picture
redever
99.2
2
BankonBanking's picture
BankonBanking
99.0
3
Betsy Massar's picture
Betsy Massar
99.0
4
Secyh62's picture
Secyh62
99.0
5
CompBanker's picture
CompBanker
98.9
6
kanon's picture
kanon
98.9
7
dosk17's picture
dosk17
98.9
8
GameTheory's picture
GameTheory
98.9
9
numi's picture
numi
98.8
10
Jamoldo's picture
Jamoldo
98.8
success
From 10 rejections to 1 dream investment banking internship

“... I believe it was the single biggest reason why I ended up with an offer...”