Has anyone done altitude training?

I might go with some friends to the opening at Breck in CO in a few weeks and possibly might bring my bike for some altitude training. My watch has PulseOx, so I can measure oxygen saturation levels.

Any experiences? Anything to look out for (ie reasonable oxygen levels and unreasonable levels and how you felt, etc)?

 

Don't get butthurt when you have to breathe a ton, even to walk up a couple flights of stairs. All the locals are just used to breathing more.

You probably already know the lightheaded feeling just before passing out. It's not much different though I feel like it happens faster.

 
urmaaam:
Don't get butthurt when you have to breathe a ton, even to walk up a couple flights of stairs. All the locals are just used to breathing more.

I said I was bringing my bike to CO for altitude training and have an oxygen saturation level measuring device,

and you caution me about walking up the stairs?

![https://data.whicdn.com/images/274459055/original.gif][https://data.whi…] lol ok SB for the laugh

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee
 

Unless you are going to train for a week or two, its not really going to make much of a difference.

I don't have any data on oxygen levels, but from experience and talking to people in the area, it takes more than just a ride or two on a weekend to really make an impact.

 
George_Banker:
Unless you are going to train for a week or two, its not really going to make much of a difference.

I don't have any data on oxygen levels, but from experience and talking to people in the area, it takes more than just a ride or two on a weekend to really make an impact.

I went in the spring for 10 days and saw major gains in my cardio/endurance that lasted at least 6 weeks.

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee
 

Some of the peaks do approach some serious altitude, but I wouldn't about it too much unless you're planning on literally summiting peaks on your bike, in which case please take a video and report back to us.

That said, some people are alot more susceptible than others so just try not to do anything crazy on the first day. Being more winded than you're used to is normal, but if you feel serious symptoms definitely turn around. There are prescriptions for altitude sickness that you can take ahead of time - I've never used them but I've heard they're effective for some people.

 
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First off, you do realize that it’s too late in the season to do much biking at Breck’s altitude? Fruita is still a go, but we’re a week out from the resort opening for skiing. Anywhere without snow will be exceptionally muddy, and the roads are covered with sand and chemicals.

I’m a former competitive cyclist and live in CO. If you haven’t spent time at altitude, I wouldn’t make fun of some of the advice above.

Up to 50% of the population is prone to altitude sickness and pushing hard as soon as you get to altitude can exacerbate it. I don’t get it, but it looks miserable. It also has nothing to do with how fit you are.

I did V02 max testing, etc. many years ago, but I wouldn’t focus too much on levels. It’s more about how your body feels and how you adjust to altitude. It takes a full 3 months to acclimate, and you lose most of the benefit in 3-4 weeks. Broadly, blood oxygen levels drop by up to 20% at altitude, which is what I think you are asking.

A huge factor in how you feel is hydration. You need to drink around twice as much (or more) water at altitude.

 
TechBanking:
First off, you do realize that it’s too late in the season to do much biking at Breck’s altitude? Fruita is still a go, but we’re a week out from the resort opening for skiing. Anywhere without snow will be exceptionally muddy, and the roads are covered with sand and chemicals.

I had no idea. Thanks!

I still plan on bringing my bike though for as much as I can cycle and just plan to cycle and hit up casinos along the way.

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee
 
TechBanking:

Up to 50% of the population is prone to altitude sickness and pushing hard as soon as you get to altitude can exacerbate it. I don’t get it, but it looks miserable. It also has nothing to do with how fit you are.

hmmm I would agree for the most part, but have read that athletes who do high high intensity and interval training adapt more quickly than just the 'fit' type bodybuilder/athlete/triathlete etc.

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee
 

Yeah I think I did get a slight altitude sickness feeling this spring at Copper / in Frisco, CO - it sucked.

I've read olympic athletes typically like to sleep below a certain altitude as well - its interesting stuff.

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee
 

If there's no outdoor options you should at least try to find a stationary and train some while there. Know someone who spends several winter weekends and will be on the mountain morning through midafternoon then head back and hop on a stationary bike for an hour. They're a freak and compete ultra distance but even then day 1 will be low mileage, easy pace (almost recovery like) workout, see how it feels and build from there. It's not very scientific but works for them.

Regarding oxygen levels, you'll probably need to just self-monitor how you feel and can take notes of your oxygen levels but how you feel overall is your best indicator. Your muscles need it to function, there's less available, and as you break down even if you think you're at a good level you can become deficient because your body just isn't adjusted to performing at that level over durations. So advice is to use it as a complementary tracking tool but not your guide. Don't try to break any records and almost over-hydrate.

When you get back oyu'll lose that change in physiology and your red blood cells will normalize but doesn't mean you shouldn't try for a PR on day one/two after returning.

 

I agree with a lot of the comments above. I left the NCAA and took a couple semesters of to run track internationally. We would regularly travel for altitude training in preparation for a meet. That being said, we were on very, very specific programs that were tailored to ensure that our bodies were able to adjust appropriately and benefit from the training. Intesnsity of workouts would be gradual and we would spend at least 3-4 weeks in the area in preparation for the 2-3 day meet. A lot of people think you can go to Utah for a few days and workout until you throw up and it’ll somehow make you stronger. Not true lol it takes time and thoughtful strategy. PS - Anything is better than those “altitude masks” LOL

 
el bee oh:
You did a 70.3 half in 5:59. Not exactly an elite time, so what is the point in doing altitude training?

I'm training for a March Muay Thai event (if my coach clears me). I told him I'm going to kick off training mid Nov after coming back from snowboard / altitude training.

Its more for fun and to win in amateur MMA sports. I'm not seeking the UFC championship or to win Kona lol --- just trying to 'get by' and be respectable in these harsh sports that I decided to dedicate my time. To be 'respectable' in Tri sports or MMA sports is quite good I feel (vs society). Then you have the 'elite' atletes in Tris, and pro athletes in MMA, etc.

I'm none of those fancy things. Just a guy working his ass off in sports to have fun as to me it reveals the truth.

The truth in life, your life, your role towards others. What are you doing / not doing for those who mean so much for you in life? Because at the finish line or at the end of the round, that's where you really begin. That is the start line for life. The training is just thinking about them too, so the races are just proof, that you had fun one day swimming in the Savannah river.

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee
 

Also though, I did the last half iron with a bryan patch skate helmet on and vans checkered lite snowboard socks ... really guys ... really .... hahaha....

like the opposite of a 'pure cyclist', but somehow they love these outfits I wear to the tri events --- I get lots of hype - its fun

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee
 

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