How much money would you need to undergo castration/sterilization?

Was listening to a podcast this morning about eugenics (from Greek "eu" meaning good / well and "genos" meaning race / species). Really interesting stuff and widely accepted by prominent scholars and politicians as late as the 1960s. Look up Cold Spring Harbor Labs in Long Island. (It's dangerous to use the values of today to judge actions of the past.)

But I digress. So today in some parts of rural India, women in very poor villages are being paid $10 USD to be sterilized. The govn't turns a blind eye to this, and when asked, defends that [the women] are being compensated.

I was thinking, what amount would it take for for a Western man to undergo voluntary sterilization?

Being the number geeks / quants / modeling fanatics you guys are here, surely, there has to be a model we can devise based on (but not limited to) factors such as :
- present value of the lifetime future expected earnings (assuming we seek wealth for eventual sex)
- the value of said individuals "joy" (i.e. economic utility) from procreation
- his current age (would be a negatively correlating factor)
- overall gene desirability/fitness as determined by a panel of fertile women

would be awesome to see a quant come up with a formal model of this.

"everyone has their price."

 

no amount of money would do it. you should research epigenetics instead of eugenics. would motivate you to move your weak little body around more for your kids' sake

heister: Look at all these wannabe richies hating on an expensive salad. https://arthuxtable.com/
 

There is a charity in the US that pays crackheads to get sterilized.

Humans are largely a scourge on this planet. So I support most things that limit or reduce the body count.

Most people that should be sterilized are idiots and therefor would probably ask for very little to do it. Those who aren’t morons generally don’t have a ton of kids and therefore don’t need to be paid either.

 
Wolfofgeorgestreet:
We gathered you aren't a genius after you made a post about how you don't get why people say goodbye on a phone call.

The Hawaiians always get me. It's like a Beatles song talking to them. You say hello, I say goodbye...

Aloha! Aloha. Aloha? Aloha.

Aloha.

"Did you just say goodbye?"

"No, no I thought your phone went out of service. Can you hear me now? Hello?"

"Aloha."

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"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee
 
MonacoMonkey:
I'm not a genius, but something tells me this is unsustainable. #parabolic

Agreed, you’re not a genius. You have never considered logarithmic scales. Or human productivity increase potential. Or declining birth rates, among other things.

Human life is trending towards better all the time. Not better in every aspect all of the time.....but generally getting better, consistently.

 
MonacoMonkey:

"everyone has their price."

wronggggg (Trump voice)

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee
 

I'd do the sterilization thing for $10M, but there is no amount of money for castration. The only purpose for having money (for me) is for sleeping with females. If I had no testosterone I'd have little-to-no ambition as a man. I actually wonder why any woman would even be at all ambitious in their careers given that they have low testosterone levels and men largely don't care about a woman's money or career.

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exactly my thoughts. when I meet a girl who's doing her PhD it's legitimately confusing to me. especially since I tend to only associate with above-average looking females.

men:money::women:appearance/youthfulness

^ that's the only analogy that matters in our society. everything revolves around it.

 

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