Drug Test After Starting Full Time Training?

I start FT IB analyst training very soon at a big bank. There was no mention about drug testing in the offer letter or anywhere else and I haven't been drug tested.

I haven't smoked bud recently and won't until after I start but I want to know - after the first day of training if I haven't been drug tested am I in the clear to light up or is it possible they'll drug test mid-way through training or when I actually hit the desk after training?

Anyone heard of something like that happening? I'm not a big stoner or anything but it's nice to be able to accept if someone hands me a bowl at a weekend party or something without being terrified of drug tests.

Investment Banking: No Drug Test After Starting Work

Our users shared that investment banks typically do not do additional drug testing after you have begun training unless they suspect you of having a drug problem that is interfering with work. However, they could drug test you at any time. It is important to note that this is NOT the case for consulting firms.

NYCStudent - Investment Banking Analyst:

I thought I didn't have to do a drug testing for my bank as well (starting at a global IB). HR didn't say anything about it, but then two days ago they emailed us about it. So it's pretty random sometimes.

Bondarb - Hedge Fund Partner:

Answer is that of course the can test you anytime, but they probably will not unless they suspect you of having a drug problem...ie probably only if u don't show up for work regularly or something. Reality is that nobody cares if you smoke pot on your off time as long as you do your job. I wouldn't worry about testing once you start.

TechBanking - Entrepreneur:

They can drug test you whenever they want. In practice they'd only do it (to an active employee) if they suspected a problem.

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Comments (37)

Jun 22, 2013

Ask yourself this - are you willing to risk your MD wondering why you have super red eyes every Monday morning in exchange of getting high for a couple of hours with your mates on the weekend?

"Every man should lose a battle in his youth, so he does not lose a war when he is old"

Jun 24, 2013

lol what? I would wait until you are passed training to be sure. I have never heard of people being tested

Jun 22, 2013
RichardPennybags:

Ask yourself this - are you willing to risk your MD wondering why you have super red eyes every Monday morning in exchange of getting high for a couple of hours with your mates on the weekend?

I don't want to derail the thread but I've never, ever had red eyes the morning after smoking weed - only the night of.

Jun 22, 2013

anything is possible but unlikely

Jun 22, 2013

They can drug test you whenever they want. In practice they'd only do it (to an active employee) if they suspected a problem.

Jun 22, 2013

I thought I didn't have to do a drug testing for my bank as well (starting at a global IB). HR didn't say anything about it, but then two days ago they emailed us about it. So it's pretty random sometimes.

Jun 22, 2013

I'd read this: http://www.dol.gov/elaws/asp/drugfree/drugs/dt.asp

The answer is yes, they can test you for drugs at any time. It probably isn't worth risking your job.

Jun 22, 2013

I was tested on my first day of work, with no mention of it in any of my offer letters or itinerary.

So just wait a little bit.

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Jan 2, 2018

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Jan 3, 2018

a currency broker that no longer exists

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Jun 22, 2013
RichardPennybags:

Ask yourself this - are you willing to risk your MD wondering why you have super red eyes every Monday morning in exchange of getting high for a couple of hours with your mates on the weekend?

I'm guessing you've never smoked pot

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Jun 22, 2013

Do most banks even drug test at all for FT? Or do they just test SAs mostly? With ~90%+ FT analysts coming from the intern pool it seems sort of redundant anyway.

Jun 22, 2013

answer is that of course the can test you anytime, but they probably will not unless they suspect you of having a drug problem...ie probably only if u dont show up for work regularly or somethhing. Reality is that nobody cares if you smoke pot on ur off time as long as you do your job. I wouldnt worry about testing once you start.

Jun 22, 2013
RichardPennybags:

Ask yourself this - are you willing to risk your MD wondering why you have super red eyes every Monday morning in exchange of getting high for a couple of hours with your mates on the weekend?

No red eyes. Might be a bit drowsy in the morning but nothing coffee can't fix.

OP: I think you should just avoid it until your gig is over. Better safe than sorry.

Jun 22, 2013

not worth the risk IMO

but if you don't smoke all the time and only do it once, even a day before the test you'll pass.

if you've been smoking weed everyday for the past ~6 months or so or every other day, you will fail unless you do some serios detoxing/sweating,etc

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Jun 22, 2013

they can whenever they want to since it's at will employment. most likely they won't after you start unless they're suspicious of something.

Jun 23, 2013

I have never heard if any professional being drug tested while already on the job. Not once. I think if you're a bus driver or have some job dealing with heavy machinery, you might have an issue. But, not if you're some random guy in finance.

Jun 23, 2013

I know you were asking about IB specifically, but for the benefit of others reading this thread, it is not uncommon for energy majors to randomly drug test within all of their departments. It's a policy that makes sense for engineers (I guess) but usually they keep it consistent across the company pulling in finance and traders too.

Jun 23, 2013

A lot of places have a compliance rule of "within 10 days of the start date"

Jun 23, 2013
RichardPennybags:

Ask yourself this - are you willing to risk your MD wondering why you have super red eyes every Monday morning in exchange of getting high for a couple of hours with your mates on the weekend?

Dumbest shit I've ever read. Maybe someday people will realize that the straight-and-arrow personalities are the minority. Everyone has a vice and nobody gives a shit about it. If you haven't been drug-tested prior to your first day then don't worry about it. Light up, bud.

Jun 23, 2013
SirTradesaLot:

I have never heard if any professional being drug tested while already on the job. Not once. I think if you're a bus driver or have some job dealing with heavy machinery, you might have an issue. But, not if you're some random guy in finance.

This...

Jun 23, 2013

If you have not been tested, I would hold off. They will usually always test you once close to when you start. After this test, you will not be tested again.

Jun 23, 2013

No, of course they wont drug test you again after you've passed a drug test. Its really just a formality to begin with. I've got my drug test for a MO job in a few weeks and ill be lighting up on my way home from LabCorp.

"The cheaper the crook, the gaudier the patter"

Jun 23, 2013
RichardPennybags:

Ask yourself this - are you willing to risk your MD wondering why you have super red eyes every Monday morning in exchange of getting high for a couple of hours with your mates on the weekend?

and this is the stupidest fucking thing ive read today

"The cheaper the crook, the gaudier the patter"

Jun 24, 2013

In business lingo it is called a random drug test. If you read your employment contract you will see a section that says they can test you at any time.

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Jun 24, 2013

I'd guess that the only reason they would test you after you started is because they don't like you or you have been doing poor work and they are looking for excuses to can you. Otherwise, no one cares.

Jun 24, 2013

What type of firm are you working at? BB?

Jun 24, 2013
RichardPennybags:

Ask yourself this - are you willing to risk your MD wondering why you have super red eyes every Monday morning in exchange of getting high for a couple of hours with your mates on the weekend?

Probably best not to take funny scenes from "Knocked Up" as gospel.

Jun 24, 2013

Just curious if any firm has every done a hair test?

Always urine?

Jun 24, 2013

Do coke so they don't detect the mary jane

Jun 24, 2013
goblan:

Do coke so they don't detect the mary jane

Haha yeah. And mix in some adderall.

Jun 24, 2013

Stop smoking ASAP.

Go buy some Niacin and start drinking liters of water a day.

Jun 24, 2013

Outside of stop smoking asap this is awful advice. Drinking a ton of water all the time does nothing to help cleanse the body of THC. THC metabolites, which are what the tests check for, are stored in fat which is not water soluble. Just stop smoking now and you will be fine.

Jun 24, 2013

Okay, doing all three now. thanks everyone!

Jun 24, 2013
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