IU Kelley Prestige
What is Kelley’s prestige on the street like? Is it easy to break into ib or or from Kelley? What’s the placement like?
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Considered one of the most prestigious undergrad business schools and has been sending tons of kids to IB in BB/EB/MM banks for a while (70+ a year). Albeit, while it is possible to get internships and IB jobs outside of their IBN, it is almost imperative to be apart of the network/workshop to get the best placements. However still a notch below Michigan, UVA, and UC Berkeley. Stands on the same level as UNC and UT Austin and other schools such as USC and Notre Dame. Their investment banking network is hard to beat and very expansive, consisting of alum who will go to bat for one another. I mean a quick LinkedIn search will reveal they have tons of alumni in IB and great PE and HF shops, but still not in the same league as Wharton.
IU, the school itself gets some hate because it isn’t a very hard school to get into or good for many majors outside of its excellent business school and world renowned music school, but it’s Kelley School of Business is definitely on another level and should be regarded in and of its own.
Check this out for more info on IB placement: https://kelley.iu.edu/faculty-research/departments/finance/undergraduat…
This is pretty inaccurate. You need to get into the IB workshop to have a decent shot at placement. Kelley is not one of the most prestigious UG bschools and is below UNC, UT, USC, and ND. Kelley definitely outperforms given IU's overall lack of prestige but should not be chosen over the other top UG bschools or more prestigious universities without a business major.
No offense, but you clearly did not read a single thing I said and probably jumped to conclusions. Either that, or your attention to detail is poor. I mention how it is imperative to be apart of their investment banking network/workshop to get the best internships at the top EB’s and BB’s. Likewise, they are the #13 feeder into Wall Street jobs in all of the country, and #3 for public universities according to Bloomberg Businessweek. Hard to beat that. Like I said, on par with UNC/UT Austin/USC/ND, but still below schools such as Wharton, Stern, Michigan, Berkeley, Georgetown, and the like. Likewise, the Kelley grads I have worked with are rockstars and this is coming from someone who went to another semi-target/target school on the east coast.
The investment banking network filters itself out and the individuals vying for the workshop who don’t get it probably wouldn’t have gotten IB jobs anyway, the acceptance rate is above 50%. It is very important to try to get into their IBN/IBW, and should be a priority for students vying for IB.However, there are still several students every year that get IB jobs without it according to my cousin who is currently a student there.
Not sure if you woke up on the wrong side of the bed or you lost a deal or a job to a Kelley alum, but if you have no factual data to back up your claims, please refrain from spreading misinformation and next time read carefully.
Looks like the IU grads are angry today. For someone who claims to have not gone to IU you so seem to be taking a ton of offense for me stating the truth about the school. IU is a fine option with above average placement but to try and convince people to go there over ND/UNC etc is just really bad advice unless they’re in state and cost is a factor.
https://news.efinancialcareers.com/uk-en/199099/top-50-universities-get…
There is also more to a school than its IB placement and IU’s 80% acceptance rate and overall lower caliber of students sticks out in this regard.
How? This doesn't make sense. I get that the alumni go to bat for each other, which makes sense, but why would banks put them on the same level as UNC or UT Austin, which are objectively far better schools?
Because they train their students to become excellent investment bankers. That’s what the investment banking network/workshop is all about. They train students starting from their freshman year with their investment banking club and then sophomores apply to the IBW and are trained in pitching, valuation, and “playing the game.” The IBN even spends thousands of dollars a year on several Training the Street (TTS) seminars for the kids in the program which is essentially the same training you get as a summer analyst/FT analyst, except you’re doing it months to even years ahead. They individually send 5-6 kids a year to Moelis and Lazard itself and almost every other bank. Take a look at the placements yourself on the IBN website. My cousin was able to land a top-tier gig and I envy the training he received prior to hitting the desk
All of this information is public: https://kelley.iu.edu/IBN/index.cfm
https://kelley.iu.edu/faculty-research/departments/finance/undergraduat…
Long-term you’re better off going to an elite liberal arts school, Wharton, Stern, an Ivy, or a top 25 US News national university. Short-term you couldn’t do better than the IBN. The strong network makes your banking recruiting process so much more structured and simple. PE/HF processes are another story. Going to an elite school becomes a box that needs to be checked if you want to stay in high finance, and it makes your process that much more difficult if you have to explain that void on your resume.
If intellectual integrity matters to you avoid business school all together. Business school is trade school whether you’re at Wharton or Derp State. Finance isn’t that hard to teach yourself and securing a job is mostly about networking, not whether you took 100 vapid credit hours on corporate culture, career management, and leadership with some portfolio theory on the side.
Agreed
Completely agree with this sentiment
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Quick google search revealed Kelley's acceptance rate of 37% vs the university overall at 79%. Average SAT of 1440 at the B-school vs 1240 at large.
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