Michigan vs Virginia for Undergrad
Hey,
I'm currently a HS senior. I want to go to Wall Street (well, duh). Early action, I got accepted to both Michigan and UVA (as well as UMass-Amherst, but that was a pure safety). I'll be in the honors program at both colleges for the first two years, and then transfer into each respective's business school: Ross and McIntire. I realize Ross is probably more prestigious, but how big is the difference? I do like the sports scene at Michigan, but UVA is not a slouch in that department. I think I might like it better socially at UVA and prefer the warmer weather of Virginia versus Michigan.
Of course, this discussion could be rendered moot by my regular decisions acceptances. But I would appreciate thoughts. Thanks!
Assuming both are the same price, your decision should probably come down to some secondary factors. Virginia has better weather, and arguably a nicer campus. Michigan, on the other hand, has better sports, and probably a little bit more name recognition. Also, might be worth it to note that it's a little easier to get into McIntire than it is Ross (assuming you weren't pre-admitted). I believe McIntire's acceptance rate is over 50% whereas Ross' is about 35%. One final factor to take into consideration is where you might want to end up after graduation. I'd go Ross if you want Chicago or New York, but McIntire if you want D.C. or anyplace else in the South. Truthfully, both are great choices, and there really isn't a "wrong" choice.
Michigan hands down. Academics are relatively even (not sure who gets the edge), but I came across way more UM grads/students this summer/during interviews/at PE firms/etc (also due to UM being massive.) Additionally, attending a school in the B1G will give you one of the best social experiences you can have while in college.
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i'd recommend michigan myself however, both should be fine
UVA for sure
UVA for sure. Academics are a draw, recruiting is a draw. Weather, campus and culture should be your deciding factors. UVA wins hands down. You'll enjoy your time so much more at virginia, and the alumni base loves helping their own. UVA one hundred times over, don't put weight on the one personal experience given by rpc, and for what it's worth, the culture in the ACC is the best anywhere, especially if you want traditional southern Greek systems. PM me if you want (I don't go to UVA by he way, just trying to help you out)
I didn't go to Michigan, or a school in the Big Ten...While weather in Charlottesville is better than Ann Arbor, the climate isn't that different (still gets cold enough to snow, just not sub-zero.) Ann Arbor is a much better college town than Charlottesville and the major Football and Basketball experience just adds to it. The only clear draw UVA has over UM is it's southern culture and greek system (if that's what you're looking for.) McIntire is superb, but Ross has the clear edge in OCR..Listen, both schools are great and it's closer than what I made it sound in the first post, but UVA doesn't run away with it by any stretch of the imagination.
While I can't speak to the career prospects of the two schools, I've visited both and the social aspect of Michigan blows UVA away. Ann Arbor is an amazing college town and in my experience the parties and girls are way better (assuming you're a guy here). Yes UVA has better weather than Michigan, but Charlottesville is still in the mountains and it still gets cold in the winter. Michigan is also a far better sports school, UVA is only not a "slouch" if you count lacrosse and non-major sports.
Ross's building is also cool-they have their own cafeteria, gym, and I believe they're refurbishing older parts of the complex. I don't know much about McIntire's building.
I graduated last year from UM and lots of my friends got into BB/consulting, and I am a 1-yr analyst at a BB as well. I think both UM and UV are pretty fine, but I think UM has a slight better recognition concerning the placement at BBs.
Both will get you to where you want to go as long as you put in the effort. You're going to spend 4 great years there, go where you want to go. I'm all about the grind but sometimes you need to ease off the accelerator just a little bit and enjoy the view. I'd vote UVA though great weather and lax bros... flow for days.
Both schools send a good amount of people to Wall Street, and both will offer a good social life.
Really just posting to say that if a school's "athletics program" is a large factor in your decision, and you don't actually play a sport, you are a nerd.
Congrats on the acceptances - two very good schools with a good balance of academics and normalness. Both schools will get you there. Ross may be a bit stronger for IB, but not significant enough to make your decision completely. This is college - you have to go where you think you fit the best. If your more confident that you'll like the UVa social seen, then go there. The schools are similar in some ways, but very different in others.
Thanks for the advice everyone! Kinda confirmed what I initially thought, both have their pluses. I'm going to go to both of their Accepted Students day and see where I fit in better. @FeelingMean, Although I am going to be able to play a sport at either school (not recruited, but will be able to walk on; have talked to both coaches), I don't think that it's fair to say that someone interested in a school's athletic program is a nerd. It's not a large part of the choice but it can be a factor. I've talked to a couple people who go to Michigan and they've all talked about how much they enjoy football and basketball games with their friends.
Don't get me wrong, Michigan is a very good school with some world class programs, but we are splitting hairs here. Both schools are going to get you where you want to go and to say one is markedly better than the other is ridiculous. Personally, I think Michigan is hugely overhyped vs. other schools at the same level but that probably has to do with football and basketball being so big there vs. a Cornell or Northwestern or even Virginia.
I go to Ross so obviously I'm biased, but my experience here has been nothing short of first-class. Every part of the experience has been awesome. From the freshman and sophomore year greek life scene, to moving into Ross, to internship recruiting this (my junior) year, nothing has fallen short of any possible expectation (besides the feking team this fall, hoops is making up for it though). Ann Arbor is a perfect college town as well. You have two great choices, but I'd pick Michigan again 10 times out of 10.
@coolhandluke
Maybe I was not clear- if a school's athletic program is one of the major factors in your decision AND you are not going to be an athlete yourself, you are a nerd. If I asked you in an interview why you chose the school you did, and "sports" was part of your answer in any way, you'd be disqualified immediately. I am the exception though.
I wouldn't say that. I couldn't imagine going to a school without a big time football program. It adds a ton to the student experience and I definitely don't play. Being in a fraternity on a football Saturday in Ann Arbor is more fun than being on the team anyways.
For most people on the East Coast, the only good state schools are Berkeley and UVA.
This.
As much as I abhor the term "Public Ivy," those are the two schools that fit in that category as far as most are concerned.
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