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The realty is that it’s not that hard at all. With a 4.0 and few internships, you have a very strong resume. Simply put, don’t waste time emailing the bankers from Ivy undergrads - email people from other non targets. You will get response rates.
Thank you, good insight. Sometimes it can be challenging to network with non-targets though, as there are fewer of them. Sorting them out on LinkedIn is what I’ve done so far.
Non-target with BB offer here. This one is small but was super helpful to me, instead of sending LinkedIn messages, figure out the person's email format and reach out to them through there. I found that to be way more effective. Next, spend the time and money to fly out and physically meet the person you're trying to network with. It can be expensive and difficult, but I found that people were a lot more willing to help me when I did that. It ended up paying dividends for me.
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Do you think the meetings worked out because you told the person that you were flying down to the city just to have the conversation? That would show some solid drive, I guess.
When you quote these people and say reach out to them via email, are these individuals who went to your school? Or simply people in BBs you find on LinkedIn?
Flying out might be marginally helpful, but if you can't afford it, then I wouldn't stress. If you do fly out, try to schedule several chats on the same day (but spaced out enough so there's no overlap). That way you'll likely only make 1-2 flights total. But still, personally I think flying out should only be done if it's not a financial burden at all. It's icing on the cake, but emailing enough nontarget people to have a phone call will likely yield similar outcomes.
How did you personally sort out these non-target individuals?
My bad, should've clarified that this isn't something I've had to do, so while I'm sharing my perspective, it's not meant to be taken as prescriptive.
To answer your question though, LinkedIn allows you to filter your searches. For example, go to a company's page you're interested in, click "People," and then you can search by school/region/etc.
Don't try to beat target schools at their own game and instead fully buy into the non-target vibe. Especially if you are at a top LAC, e.g., and your issue is banks not coming for OCR (but, they still think you go to a good school) you can be seen as a very desirable, differentiated asset if you are a philosophy or history major, for example (vs. a clear target finance/accounting student @ Wharton).
If you're a liberal arts major from a small east coast private school, it's more than fair game to reach out to any liberal arts major bankers from other schools.. people love talking to people from similar backgrounds, especially if they're (relatively) niche.
This is a great question. Circumventing HR and networking is the right approach. Gotta find someone at a bank with some commonality to connect on such as your school. It’s going to be better if you can reach out to Directors and above bc the truth is, none of the analysts and associates want to help you and they have absolutely no pull....so don’t waste your time. Find someone from your school who crushed it. Find out who they know and get introduced but at the very least cold call them / email (reverse engineer syntax) if you don’t get an intro.
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