Should women head the household?
Disclaimer: I'm not writing this to be "edgy" or troll. I am genuinely curious about human nature and the relations between the sexes. Feel free to give your input from your knowledge of biology, psychology, history or your personal experiences.
Did the ancients have it right when they said that the man should head the household and the woman should obey? I believe they were. Not only that, but I think that if women were honest with themselves, they would admit that they want the man to be in charge. The moment a woman detects that her man isn't in charge, she will see him as "less" than her and the harmony of the relationship will be thrown into disorder. However, when the man is in charge, the woman will be satisfied with having a provider and the man will be happy in knowing he has a purpose in life. Sure there are exceptions to the rule, but I believe this is the way humans work in general.
Is the whole women's lib/subvert gender roles movement misguided or is it a step in the right direction? Curious to hear your thoughts.
Disclaimer: I have no idea what I’m talking about.
I have heard the whole thing that women look for providers and lose respect for men who can fit that role, I’ve also heard men without purpose/ambition are beta AF (which imo is true) and perhaps there is some truth to women not being to attracted to men like that. From a historical perspective it makes sense and from some of the stereotypes around today it makes sense.
We can look at hunter and gatherers and see that men fell into the hunter role because they’re stronger (on average) and women were better suited to the gatherer role and naturally to be caretakers. I guess it just never really changed because for the most part human history is fucking brutal. In modern times, with the world being a kinder place (at least in the developed world) women can take the role of head of the household, and do it as well as a man. I just think a lot of guys don’t feel too comfortable with it - could because historically it wasn’t done, could be ingrained into us biologically. I have no idea. But women can absolutely be the head of the household and plenty of women are these days.
Ok. Are these relationships happy or do they fall apart? If men being the providers is ingrained in us biologically, doesn't that mean women being the head of household would lead both partners to feel unfulfilled?
I don’t have any data to prove or disprove this. Only thing I can give you is anecdotal evidence, my aunt works full time while my uncle stays home with the kids and does the groceries, dinner and what not. He is kind of lazy and never really wanted to work so his wife does, who in my estimation is the ambitious one in the relationship. They’re happy together, at least from what they show. For myself, I would not be okay with it, the wife can work and she can even out earn me but I’m not being a stay at home dad. So clearly that relationship would fail.
This guy fucks
What’s up with the incel posts lately? This place is turning into Reddit
says the guy posting anonymously. I bet you are a 650 lb momma's boy
Who washes himself with a rag on a stick?
This is exactly the reply I was fearing. "StOP bEinG aN INcEl." I'm trying to answer questions about the dynamics of relationships between men and women. Men and women look for different things when looking for a partner. I'm trying to start a discussion on what these things are and the implications of this. This isn't an "incel" post. I'm genuinely fascinated by human nature, and I wanted to hear someone else's take.
did the ancients have it right when women between age 12 and 16 were married off to older men, or when they practiced pederasty (a socially acknowledged romantic relationship between an adult male and a younger male usually in his teens) (according to plato, love between two men is the purest type of love, especially love between an older man and a younger one, as it has its origins in the desire to share information and worldviews — desire is considered a benefit, not the relationship’s engine)? not trolling genuinely curious to hear everyone's thoughts.
Yeah this is kind of interesting. When people hear about sex and people below 18, they immediately think "that's a child! he/she can't even consent." I get your point, but how do you know that? Aren't there a few 15-17 year olds out there who are mature enough to consent? Does something happen at the age of 18 that magically gives a person the ability to make decisions for themselves. I personally don't find it right to marry off a 12 year old because a kid isn't even fully developed yet (physically or mentally) at that point.
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what if the 12 year old was physically and mentally gifted, fully developed in both criteria. then would it be okay?
Do you also knock women over the head and drag them into your cave?
Are you really that insecure about your masculinity that you’d have to keep a woman bound to the home in order to feel that you have purpose?
Can’t wait for you to start and discover that there are girls more competent and pedigreed than you in your analyst class. Happens every year and it’s always fascinating to observe.
It is only a matter of time before women are as successful as men in the workplace. Women get better grades in school and are generally more disciplined than guys regarding studying. Men have two issues working against them: they are probably more likely to have ADD or something similar and some are very distracted by sports. Females do a much better job of juggling sports and academics.
Women are better at generating meticulous work while men are better at sitting down and just crushing through a pile of work. I wouldn’t say any one is better but our female analysts sure as hell don’t rage or get their egos slaughtered when their male counterparts outdo them
I think a lot of these are false diagnoses. Boys are typically more rebellious and unruly in school, while girls are more likely to be the "teacher's pets." What happens is that the teacher gets fed up with these disruptors and the school nurse diagnoses them with ADD. The boys are then hooked on ADHD medications. It's a sad story. Not saying ADD doesn't exist, but sometimes just let kids be kids.
Ephesians 5: 22 - 24
Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife even as Christ is the head of the church, his body, and is himself its Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit in everything to their husbands.
This verse implies for the wife to submit to everything except if the husband were to lead her to sin, in which she should not submit.
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