I'm having difficulties finding a good ranking list of the top programs for masters in finance. USNews has their list cut off super short unless you subscribe. Would anyone have a good top list?
I'm getting a little worried that I might not be able to land a good job after I graduate. Junior financial economics major with a 3.5 and decent internships but I go to a non target, although respectable school. Would a one year MSc Finance be a good idea? Where would somewhere like Vanderbilt land you?
If everything goes right I'd get a good job after graduation and then MBA after a few years. But I'm just trying to gather all my possibilities. I'm talking about US schools also.
The Search tool is your friend here. There are so many threads on this site discussing this very topic, I'd advise looking through them. Check out Vanderbilt's placements on their MSF site to get a sense of what companies are hiring their grads. Honestly though, all of this information is readily available, you need to do some research.
Some of the top schools for MSF are MIT, Princeton (not really an MSF), CMC, Vandy, WUSTL, UVA (MComm), Nova, UTA...
princeton is a quant program. It's actually an MFE. Accepts only STEM and super smart business undergrads. MIT's is a more generalist finance degree
Yep, hence the parentheses. For MIT, yeah but its grads are probably gunning for the same type of roles as any MSF class would
Tier 1: MIT, LSE, Oxford, Tier 2( 2:1 ): Vanderbilt, Imperial, Warwick, WUSTL, CMC, UTA Tier 2( 2:2 ): BC, Cass, Cranfield, Nova, OSU, SMU Cox Tier 3 : John Hopkins, Rochester, UIUC, Purdue, Tulane
I had looked up Vanderbilt's class profile before. Undergraduate GPA average: 3.45 Average GMAT: 679 Class size: 44
I would with only 44 people it would be more competitive? Also are the UK programs difficult to get into as a US citizen?
vandy has 700+ avg GMAT. look again
http://www.owen.vanderbilt.edu/admissions/ms-finance-admissions/class-p…
Is this the wrong class? It says 679 here. And 3.45 average gpa.
Should I treat this masters in finance program as a last resort? If I can't land a decent job after undergrad? Because I'd like to get my MBA eventually, so it almost seems redundant unless I just can't get a solid gig after graduation.
I'll have ~$35-40k in debt after I graduate undergrad. Another $45k seems intense even if I were to get an ibanking analyst role. It says they give scholarships, but I wouldn't bank on much?
I think Kiosliop's ranking is pretty spot on. There's some degree of variation in the tier 2 programs but, overall, I think he lays it out pretty well.
What is the best Msc in Finance? (Originally Posted: 04/07/2015)
Hi guys, just a simple question: can you rank, in your opinion, the best Msc in Finance for a student without any internship? My goal is to work in London after graduation, but I want you to exclude schools from UK since they are too expensive. My mother tongue is Italian and I can't speak any other language with the exception of English.
Thank you very much!!!
if cost is a strong consideration, check RSM. Even Bocconi (if you get the merit scholarship) is very attractive.
Do you think RSM is better than SSE and HSG?
RSM is very cheap. Bocconi gives out a "lot" of €€€ so think about that also. I would not consider HSG without speaking german... SSE is very strong and cost efficient also (I think). If you want to work in london and you get into a LSE/Oxford/Cambridge the "small" debt is not going to kill you I think. Its not like 200k for an mba. Without internship experience you need the biggest brand-name you can get! (my opinion)
Without relevant internship experience, I would stay away of 1y programs. Try getting into a two year program such as SSE, Bocconi.
I agree. Consider 2 year programs as it gives you more breathing space and makes you eligible to apply to more banks (for summer internships). Perhaps also consider HEC....I think it feeds a lot of people into banking at postgrad level.
Thank you for your help! I have turned down an offer from HEC Financial Economics since I was afraid that International Finance students would be preferred by AM employers and because I thought 2 years would be better for me since I don't have an internship. I have accepted SSE Msc in Finance and I'm still wating for an answer from Bocconi!
Bocconi is a great school. If you're going to exclude the LSE and OxBridge from your list I would go for them.
no LSE LBS programs on the list?!
Just read the opening post
Why would it not be? The Grand Ecole is two years, plus it encourages students to take a gap year to get a bunch of different internships. It's actually perfect for people without experience, and it seems like people in France don't necessarily get internships until their masters (given the amount that take the gap year), which means you're not at some disadvantage.
Top Masters in Finance or Masters in science in finance (Originally Posted: 10/22/2012)
Does anyone know legitimate ranking for MSF (1yr Program)?
FT
Those ranking belongs to Financial engineering. Financial engineering is a glorified IT job
Pre-experience, St. Gallen / LBS / LSE / HEC.
The Financial Times is the only publication currently ranking programs. For European/UK programs I think the rankings are largely decent. For US programs they have no real bearing.
MFin - rankings help (Originally Posted: 10/19/2012)
I want to do my mFin at a top tier school. But I'm counting princeton/mit. I want to get people's feeling on the next best programs...
Vandy, Nova, UF, GW, CMC, Duke (mgmt)... what others?
My predicament is that I have a potential internship lined up at my target investment bank. Some of these programs such as Nova start in May/June which wouldn't allow me to intern, so I would have to count these programs out.
What other programs fit in those listed above?
Most MSF programs are still in their infancy, so at the moment their ranking is mostly regional. It all comes down to where you want to work post-MSF.
There are a few programs that do not start in the fall, and would conflict with your potential employment.
Here is a ranking I have compiled:
Some might be off a bit, so I would wait for ANT to step in and clean it up a bit.
Top 5:
MIT Princeton Vanderbilt Claremont McKenna UT-Austin (Starts in summer)
East Coast
MIT Princeton Villanova Rochester BC Brandeis George Washington American UF (99% UF UGs in program) Syracuse
Midwest
OSU Illinois
Southwest/South
Vanderbilt UT-Austin Tulane SMU UT-Dallas (will be at UT-Austin level in 2-5 years) UHouston U North Texas UT-Arlington (quantitative finance)
West
Claremont Mckenna Pepperdine USanFran Pacific Lutheran Utah
Oh man, a ranking thread.
What is your GMAT? If you have below a 700 you can probably leave Claremont off your list.
UF is a great program and they will love the fact that you have an internship going on. They stress how prepared you are for the program and your prospects for placement. I think George Washington is good, but other programs outweigh it. It is also expensive and DC focused.
Supposing your UG is decent and your stats are fine (I am assuming this since you landed a SA gig) you probably don't need the Duke brand. Not a knock, just saying if you have this SA you might be better off with a focused masters and leave the management stuff for B school.
Now supposing you don't get the internship, Villanova would be back in play. Without the internship my advice would revert back to what I always say. Where do you want to work, what are your stats, which program feels most comfortable. If you think they are all the same you aren't doing your home work.
Example. If you have a bunch of internships and you just need another year to interview and want a masters, your options will be more flexible. If your resume is weaker you might look at Villanova with more weight than say Vanderbilt. I say this because getting an internship during the school year might be easier in Philadelphia than in Nashville. Also, being able to go to NYC for $20 bucks round trip is easier in Philly than down south.
But if your education and internship experience is southern focus and you wanted to have a more flexible MSF, Vanderbilt would be a better fit.
Same thing if you are more interested West Coast. Villanova isn't going to help you much getting a job in California.
And if you were in love with DC (god knows I am) George Washington might be in play.
So in summary, it all depends. You really cannot rank these programs yet because their brands do not carry like a Wharton or Harvard does.
5 yrs after posted, very helpful. Thank you
Yeah, Las has a decent list.
It really comes down to comfort and stats. Get your stats and I can tell you where you will be most competitive. Also, one thing to remember, about all the schools listed can help you get where you want to go. You need to decide the kind of student you are. Do you want OCR primarily or are you ok with networking to get other opportunities? Are you flexible in where you work or are you an East Coast kind of person. You want a lock step cohort or do you want to pick and choose classes and sit with MBA students? How is your resume and the strength of your UG stats?
Stuff like this narrows the list down.
Princeton>MIT I should know since I got into MIT m fin program a year ago.
While I know that Princeton is an MFin program, it should really be lumped more in the MFE category. One only has to look at the resume of current students to see that many, if not most have work experience, quantitative undergrads and other masters degrees. Very different profile from the MIT MSF as well as other MSF programs.
Placements also tend to be in more quantitative areas of work.
My stats are 670 gmat (I'm going to try to improve,but lets figure it out based on this) 3.6gpa double major in finance and accounting, internships at BB pwm, and internship at elite boutique in M&A (lack of offer was not my doing). Currently completing my masters in accounting because of the 5 year track offered by my school. I'm from the Northeast and want to work in the Northeast - NYC. I have offers from Big 4 firms, but this is not where my passion lies. Plus it seems that the move from assurance to IB or better is not very plausible.
Best MSc Finance /Financial Mathematics/ financial Econs courses (Originally Posted: 07/28/2014)
Hi all,
Which college/uni has theBest Msc Finance /Financial Mathematics/ financial Econs courses, in terms of job/placement rates, teaching and prestige?
Thanks!
Princeton MFin Berkeley MFE Carnegie Mellon MSCF NYU MSMF Columbia MFE Stanford ICME (formerly financial mathematics) LSE MFin
LSE is the best in Europe. MIT the best in the States. Simple.
The US programmes you have mentioned are essentially a math programme, and not MSF.
I thought the OP was asking about the broad range of mfin/mfe programs. For pure MFin, MIT is the best one in the states. Princeton's program is officially a MFin, but it's so mathematically rigorous that one can't lump it in the same category as MIT, LSE, or LBS.
What's the point of doing a MFE unless you want to become a quant?
LSE is best in Europe, insane placement in BB IB. HEC Paris is also pretty great. In the US I've heard that MIT has an amazing program.
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