Trump re-elected in 2020?

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Now that the Democrats have doubled down and pinned their hopes on Schumer and a 78 year-old with early onset dementia, Trump has been handed a gift for 2020.

Instead of providing a reasonable and attractive alternative to Trump (which should be easy to do FFS), the best the Dems could come up with is a vacuous horse-faced communist named Ocasio-Cortes and an old delusional grandmother as House Speaker. This secures a Trump victory in 2020. Discuss...

I'll just leave this here..

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Comments (24)

Jan 3, 2019

I think the biggest threat to Trump is Biden or Bloomberg. I don't think Warren or Bernie have a chance, but someone like Kamala Harris could threaten him.

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Jan 3, 2019

Could you picture Biden or kamala v. Trump in the debate? Trump would light these losers up.. They haven't stepped out of the hallways of government in the last 20+ years..

The only chance to beat Trump is with someone with a track record in life (not government) (ie. Bloomberg, Steyer) who has just as large of a charisma... As they only have about a year to select candidates, I think they're SCREWED

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Jan 3, 2019

Bloomberg/Beto type of team would be tough competition and anyone would be a clown to underestimate IMO

Jan 3, 2019

Did you watch any of the 2016 debates? Donald Trump can't string together a complete sentence or remember his own talking points. His debate performances were no more than a stir-fry of stupid with a hearty dose of racist word jumble on the side.

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Jan 3, 2019

100% agree with Biden/Bloomberg.

Edit: That Tom Steyer faggot can take a hike

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Jan 3, 2019

Bloomberg / Harris is a very strong ticket. It's basically the reflection of Trump / Pence.

Bloomberg for the middle ground people. Harris to shore up the base.

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Jan 3, 2019

If Trump is re-elected, I will have lost all faith in this country.

Quite literally at every opportunity, he has demonstrated a frightening cocktail of stupidity, arrogance, and hatefulness. His own cabinet routinely call him an idiot. Gary Cohn used to hide documents from Trump, because he couldn't be trusted. Think about the worst manager you've ever had -- did you ever keep things from him to keep the company afloat?

The legal issues speak for themselves, even if the President were modestly competent. He had been directly implicated as a co-conspirator in Michael Cohen's guilty plea. We don't even know what the Mueller team has under wraps, but the man admitted to obstruction of justice on national television. The issues surrounding the Trump Foundation and Trump businesses committing immigration fraud are themselves problematic.

I can't fathom how someone could cast a vote for Trump. I thought the "give him a chance" crowd was bad two years ago, but having seen him in action, that position is downright shameful now.

Jan 3, 2019
Henri Poincare:

I can't fathom how someone could cast a vote for Trump. I thought the "give him a chance" crowd was bad two years ago, but having seen him in action, that position is downright shameful now.

You can't fathom how someone could vote for Trump over one of the "Democratic" Socialists that the Dem Party is likely to put forward? Although I have an extraordinarily low opinion of Trump as a human being, I have an even lower opinion of a person who, despite 100 years of socialist repression and poverty, continues to embrace a legitimately evil ideology. How many more nations do the Democratic Socialists need to destroy before the left is woken up?

Jan 3, 2019

Let me guess, you're referring to Venezuela. Right, that's what Democrats must be basing their ideology off of.

Jan 3, 2019

I like your writing style - state a bunch of opinions as facts and then ask us to discuss. Like why do you care, your mind is made up

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Jan 3, 2019

Not necessarily. Nothing is easily predictable these days. It's called discussion.

Not sure if I stated opinion as fact, but I have yet to meet a communist investment banker.

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Jan 3, 2019

Whatever you think of his politics, (I'm a right of center internationalist with a Libertarian streak) Trump the individual is deeply troubling. The foundation reeks of tax fraud, and what the NYT dragged up on his inheritance doesn't look any better. Petty tax fraud and bribing mistresses seems utterly in line with his character. I am unsure about the Russia situation. It seems obvious that they intervened to help him win, but was he a willing participant, or just a patsy for a government that viewed Hillary as a much bigger threat? I am unsure, and I could easily see his campaign just being taken for a ride.

My opinion is that it would be ideal for him to step down, or be primaried by a moderate Republican like Romney. I have issues with Pence's religious fundie-esque social views, but at least he would restore order.

On the policy side, my issues with Trump come entirely from the right. His trade wars are counterproductive, he is making a huge blunder withdrawing from Syria, risking future of the Kurds, our best allies in the region. MBS needed to be disciplined for Khashoggi, and his tax cut is blowing out the deficit. Government spending should be counter-cyclical, He's adding stimulus as the Fed is trying to tighten. How does that make sense?

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Jan 3, 2019

Fucking keyboard Army Rangers quarterbacking wars from the sidelines and talking shit about a President who is finally getting flyover boys out of Middle Eastern shitholes and not sending kids into them. The only IRL people dumb enough to have a libertarian lean were the few autistic "young conservatives" in high school and college who looked like they couldn't do a single push-up, wouldn't ever think of military service that could put them on the front lines, and likely still haven't gotten laid a decade later.

STFU about wars unless you either served or promise to push your first born son/daughter into the Army/Marines the second they turn 18. And no, the chAir Force and Coast Guard don't count Nancy.

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Jan 3, 2019
Pmc2ghy:

Fucking keyboard Army Rangers quarterbacking wars from the sidelines and talking shit about a President who is finally getting flyover boys out of Middle Eastern shitholes and not sending kids into them. The only IRL people dumb enough to have a libertarian lean were the few autistic "young conservatives" in high school and college who looked like they couldn't do a single push-up, wouldn't ever think of military service that could put them on the front lines, and likely still haven't gotten laid a decade later.

STFU about wars unless you either served or promise to push your first born son/daughter into the Army/Marines the second they turn 18. And no, the chAir Force and Coast Guard don't count Nancy.

But both I and my unborn children have bone spurs like our president!

Realistically, the Syria situation is rather complex, and our forces there are in minimal to no danger. ISIS is a group so radical they were kicked out of Al Qaeda, but right now they are on the ropes and not much of a threat to anyone. The Kurds are a stateless people from mountainous northern Iraq, southeast Turkey and far eastern Syria. Sadam was really brutal to them, and they've been strong allies since the invasion. Our Iraqi Kurdish allies can handle ISIS on their own from here on out. However, there has long been a Kurdish separatist movement in Turkey and Edrogan views the Iraqi Kurds as an extension to it. He views a Kurdish state as a threat, but can't attack them in a different country if we are there, but if we leave would attack them in a heartbeat. Putin would also love to reduce our allies in the area, so he will not complain, and while the Kurds can handle ISIS, they can't stand up to a modern military without us, and ISIS could rejuvenate itself in the power vacuum.

This is the conventional position of the Republican defense establishment. I don't know why you are getting your panties tied up about it. I may not have served, but a friend spent 13 months in Anbar as a Lieutenant before writing an award winning book about his time. We have discussed this issue and came to the same strategic conclusion.

I would like to remind you that the Secretary of Defense, who had the second best confirmation vote of any trump nominee at 98-2 resigned over this decision. (Secretary of Veteran's Affairs got 100-0)

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Jan 3, 2019
JDC1:

the best the Dems could come up with is a vacuous horse-faced communist named Ocasio-Cortes and an old delusional grandmother as House Speaker.

Lmaoooo

Jan 3, 2019

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Jan 3, 2019

The amount of people who legitimately think MICHAEL BLOOMBERG is a possible DEMOCRATIC nominee is mindblowing and shows how far right the discussion in American politics is currently. Mitch McConnell is literally on tape saying the Republican party is the party of the private sector and you want a billionaire private sector leader to be the lead of the Democratic party?

I dislike Trump, but not for any of the reasons that most people do. It opens the door for competent CEOs to run the country more than they already do through lobbying. This insane course will continue to push us towards what we may already be; The United Corporations of America.

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Jan 3, 2019
justphresh:

The amount of people who legitimately think MICHAEL BLOOMBERG is a possible DEMOCRATIC nominee is mindblowing and shows how far right the discussion in American politics is currently. Mitch McConnell is literally on tape saying the Republican party is the party of the private sector and you want a billionaire private sector leader to be the lead of the Democratic party?

I dislike Trump, but not for any of the reasons that most people do. It opens the door for competent CEOs to run the country more than they already do through lobbying. This insane course will continue to push us towards what we may already be; The United Corporations of America.

Michael Bloomberg is a Democrat. He gave $20 MILLION to the Democrat Senate Super PAC 3 months(!) ago.

There is a misunderstanding about Bloomberg because people assume he's a former Republican who moved to the center left. This is false. Bloomberg ran as a Republican in New York because of a quirk in the NYC political system where the Republican party is so weak that it had no legitimate candidate for mayor (Giuliani was a complete political outlier). Generally speaking, the winner of the Dem primary is, by default, the winner of the general election. Bloomberg ran as a Republican to avoid having to compete in the bitterly fought default general election, which was the Dem primary. He almost immediately dropped the Republican affiliation after being elected and remained an "independent".

Bloomberg has ubiquitously spent money around the country to defeat Republican candidates and to push far-left gun control policies, and he has done this for YEARS. He's absolutely a Democrat. That he's a billionaire corporate CEO speaks to his rank hypocrisy and not his political affiliation.

Jan 3, 2019

Pushing for policies that can benefit others more than yourself is hypocrisy? How so?

Jan 3, 2019

0.0% chance Bloomberg goes anywhere in the Democratic primaries. To suggest otherwise makes me question any political viewpoint you have, to be honest. He's questioned MeToo, kept stop-and-frisk, and is pretty corporate-friendly. Like it or not, there's very little appetite in the Dem base for a moderate right now.

Jan 3, 2019

Trump is an absolutely abominable candidate for 2020, surpassed only by his political foes. So the answer is yes, Trump is re-elected unless the Dems can get control of themselves and not nominate a complete nutjob. I think if Biden is nominated he has a better than 50% chance of beating Trump. Other than Biden, I don't know who the far-left activists would allow to get nominated who can beat Trump.

Jan 3, 2019

I think Bloomberg/Beto would give the Dems the best chance in 2020.