What happens when your force yourself/others out of bed in the morning...

when do you go to sleep? How does that affect y'all relationship?

Are you drinking any caffeine during the day (aside from first thing in the AM)? I cut out all coffee during the day and its helped my sleep considerably.

I get up at 4am. All it takes is a rhythm. As for falling asleep, once you get the hang of getting up at 4am, you'll be tired around 10pm anyway so no need for any external help. Initially, take some melatonin to reset your inner clock.

Does she drive those 70 miles? How does she handle the commute?

Has she thought about moving her work hours (if possible) to avoid traffic?

I can't imagine doing 140 miles a day in the car.

70 mile commute? What the fuck?

I didn't realize the commute would be such a big part of this post... I know its a lot, but it was only supposed to be temporary. We do a lot of driving in general, I used to commute from San Jose to San Diego 420miles give or take, thats a drive I used to do about once a week. There are plenty of people here that do 50 mile commutes on a daily basis, so I never really thought of it as that big of a deal. It's not forever, we're looking to make things a bit easier.

actually, she just doesn't want to admit to you that she's been driving for uber, hence the mileage, and just doesn't want to wake up at 4:30am everyday like a sociopath

I'm confused. Does she drive you? Why do you care when she gets up?

Is it feasible to just wake up quietly and move to a different room? My wife wakes up 30 min before me so she get her morning workout in before she leaves for work. She puts her running gear in the living room the night before, slips out of bed, and throws her shoes/headphones on out there. I usually don't even notice.

Also, as far as falling asleep - less caffeine later in day. And crush yourself when exercising even if only for a short workout, the more "deeply" I'm exhausted the better I tend to fall asleep.

This shouldn't even be a topic. If you told me I had to get up at 4 am I'd freak the fuck out too.

Just wake up and let her sleep, how fucking hard is this?

4am is the middle of the night. If you actually can't tell that the sun hasn't risen, why not get up at 3am

Morning doesn't start before dawn. It's not rockit science

The major draw for me is being able to get a good run and workout in, cook breakfast, and catchup on some news before the day starts. If I'm up at 4:30 it makes everything easier to get done before work starts. For her its just about the commute, its an hour drive without traffic and depending on the day an hour-and-a-half to two hours depending on when you hit a city. Over all it works out well, its just building the sleep cycle to stick with it. It probably doesn't fit well with everyones schedule, but it makes a good deal of sense for us.