Why doesn't NYC feel as glamorous as London

I know this is an American majority thread and I am not bashing your country just hear me out, this is a genuine observation.

Without giving away too much of my background, I moved from London to NYC this year after about 4 years in back office. I now work in banking and have only been here for 6ish months but I can't help but feel like NYC isn't like what it is in the movies even if you have a shit ton of spendable money. 

Don't get me wrong, there is a lot to do but there isn't any electricity in the air. For example, once you leave a night club, the whole streets are usually empty and quiet and people just silently take cabs or walking back home. 

I can't really explain what I mean but for my British peers NY has about the same "energy" as Nottingham or maybe Liverpool when you actually live here. I think the word I am looking for is "vibrant" maybe? NY is more similar to what I imagined Gotham would feel like than the city portrayed in Wolf of Wall Street. 

Another example, this may sound super childish but I have a joint super car spotting blog with my little brother, which started in London with Chirons and even La Ferrari's not being too hard to find zooming around and sometimes being able to have a chat with the owners. This blog for the most part has died since I got here, haven't even seen a 458 italia and luxury car owners in NY (AMG GT, Porsche) look terrified (I am black but this doesn't happen in London) and always wave me away when I approach their car. Everyone acts like their lives are always in danger which is strange because I thought NY was safer than it has ever been. 

I don't know what answer I am expecting but why doesn't NY live up to the big money, big personality, big spenders thing we see in the media? Is it because guns are more common so violent crime and robbery is a real threat, I heard it has pretty much recovered from covid but did covid drive its energy down? I know this is a retarded question but I genuinely don't get why NY and London are even compared to each other when the lifestyles are so different. 

I told a British friend of mine who lives in LA this and he said other than the weather, the wealthier and trendy parts of LA and London are more similar when it comes to lifestyle than London and NY, is this true?

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  • Intern in IB-M&A
Nov 9, 2021 - 6:02am
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For example, once you leave a night club, the whole streets are usually empty and quiet and people just silently take cabs or walking back home. 

Brother the streets in London are dead at 10PM what's your point??

  • Incoming Analyst in IB - Cov
Nov 9, 2021 - 6:10am

Umm, if you live in London currently, visit NY and you'll see the true meaning of "dead at 10pm". 

  • Associate 1 in IB - Cov
Nov 11, 2021 - 2:55pm

Umm, if you live in London currently, visit NY and you'll see the true meaning of "dead at 10pm". 

Lol wtf are you talking about?  This is 100% false

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  • Associate 2 in PE - Other
Nov 9, 2021 - 8:40am

My street in NYC has people elbowing past each other until 4 am… you might be going to the wrong clubs my guy. There are lots of things London does better, but energy and streets being dead? Pretty much completely off in my experience. Also, NYC's not a car city, if you want flashy wheels go to LA or Florida - most people don't drive here

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  • Analyst 3+ in RE - Comm
Nov 9, 2021 - 10:00am

My street in NYC has people elbowing past each other until 4 am… you might be going to the wrong clubs my guy. There are lots of things London does better, but energy and streets being dead? Pretty much completely off in my experience. Also, NYC's not a car city, if you want flashy wheels go to LA or Florida - most people don't drive here

For real. Almost every night in my neighborhood I see/hear people going out, eating dinner outside, etc. 

  • Incoming Analyst in IB - Cov
Nov 10, 2021 - 9:13pm

Where do you live? Nightlife plays a major role to me and NYC hasn't lived up to what I thought when it comes to outright wild nights around the city. I went to Tao a couple times in Soho and its nothing compared to Tape or even Ministry of Sound

Nov 9, 2021 - 8:48am

Everyone acts like their lives are always in danger which is strange because I thought NY was safer than it has ever been

Have you not been paying attention lmao? Like NYC is not as safe as it has ever been

  • Associate 2 in PE - Other
Nov 9, 2021 - 9:01am

Objectively, 2020 and 2021 are still some of the safest years on record… it just so happens that 2017-2019 saw crime plummeting. Current crime rates are basically on par with the early 2010s

  • Analyst 3+ in RE - Comm
Nov 9, 2021 - 9:59am

I have no idea where you are going out, but the city has been absolutely popping off in my neighborhood since the summer. If I wake up to take a piss at 4am on a Friday or Saturday I hear people outside still. Bars have been packed like no other. On the weekend there is absolutely a buzzing energy...I don't think we could have a more opposite take here so I'm curious if you're living in like UWS / UES. I moved here relatively recently and the one thing I keep telling people is how awesome the energy has been, lmao. 

And yeah no shit your super car spotting blog will take a hit when you move to one of the most densely populated cities/islands in the world. If you want to see super cars go spend some time in Orange County. 

  • Incoming Analyst in IB - Cov
Nov 10, 2021 - 9:30pm

I live in Murray Hill, the only time it felt properly lively was Halloween and I have been here for a few months

Nov 11, 2021 - 2:17am

Yeah I've lived in tribeca for the last two years and even it's popping off at night despite being a quieter neighborhood. 

  • Incoming Analyst in IB - Cov
Nov 10, 2021 - 9:10pm

I actually live in Murray Hill. I got the idea from meme accounts when I was in London actually. Is Murray Hill a lively spot or not because to me its only good when I have friends about

Nov 11, 2021 - 8:25am

Definitely wouldn't call Murray Hill a lively neighborhood -- it's mostly junior bankers who want to live close to the office. From my experience pre-COVID it was never really that lit on weekends, with all the young people dipping to LES to go out.

  • Associate 3 in PE - LBOs
Nov 11, 2021 - 3:10pm

Live on the LES - my friends that live in Murray Hill or Chelsea come here almost every weekend to go out. I've been to Murray Hill to go out maybe once? Just one datapoint, but that to me sums up the relative nightlife

Nov 9, 2021 - 1:55pm

Anonymous Monkey

I know this is an American majority thread and I am not bashing your country just hear me out, this is a genuine observation.

Without giving away too much of my background, I moved from London to NYC this year after about 4 years in back office. I now work in banking and have only been here for 6ish months but I can't help but feel like NYC isn't like what it is in the movies even if you have a shit ton of spendable money. 

Don't get me wrong, there is a lot to do but there isn't any electricity in the air. For example, once you leave a night club, the whole streets are usually empty and quiet and people just silently take cabs or walking back home. 

I can't really explain what I mean but for my British peers NY has about the same "energy" as Nottingham or maybe Liverpool when you actually live here. I think the word I am looking for is "vibrant" maybe? NY is more similar to what I imagined Gotham would feel like than the city portrayed in Wolf of Wall Street. 

Another example, this may sound super childish but I have a joint super car spotting blog with my little brother, which started in London with Chirons and even La Ferrari's not being too hard to find zooming around and sometimes being able to have a chat with the owners. This blog for the most part has died since I got here, haven't even seen a 458 italia and luxury car owners in NY (AMG GT, Porsche) look terrified (I am black but this doesn't happen in London) and always wave me away when I approach their car. Everyone acts like their lives are always in danger which is strange because I thought NY was safer than it has ever been. 

I don't know what answer I am expecting but why doesn't NY live up to the big money, big personality, big spenders thing we see in the media? Is it because guns are more common so violent crime and robbery is a real threat, I heard it has pretty much recovered from covid but did covid drive its energy down? I know this is a retarded question but I genuinely don't get why NY and London are even compared to each other when the lifestyles are so different. 

I told a British friend of mine who lives in LA this and he said other than the weather, the wealthier and trendy parts of LA and London are more similar when it comes to lifestyle than London and NY, is this true?

Lol, for some one from London then moving to the states, I have to say when I visited NY, to see a GF at the time. She took me around the state and I really was not impressed. I think L. A was much better. I work, interact with people from NY all the time and have this discussion with them. It boils down to personal taste, even Chicago was better but that was my personal taste. I am comparing other cities, like London, Liverpool, Nottingham, L.A, San Diego, San Francisco, Sacramento, Dallas, Houston, Phoenix, Las Vegas, Reno, Paris etc. In regards to exotic sports cars, London, L.A, Monaco, Miami/Boca Ration, and Dubui are the places.

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  • Incoming Analyst in IB - Cov
Nov 10, 2021 - 9:17pm

Dude, most weekends I am at Tao, Dream and a few other clubs and bars that are meant to be the cream of the crop here. Like I mentioned above, they weren't even as good as Ministry of Sound or Coronet. Comparing them to Cirque, Toy Room, Maddox or Libertine would be blasphemy so I am not even going to do that. 

I think some people are taking what I am saying as an insult it is just an observation

Nov 9, 2021 - 2:09pm

Anonymous Monkey

I know this is an American majority thread and I am not bashing your country just hear me out, this is a genuine observation.

Without giving away too much of my background, I moved from London to NYC this year after about 4 years in back office. I now work in banking and have only been here for 6ish months but I can't help but feel like NYC isn't like what it is in the movies even if you have a shit ton of spendable money. 

Don't get me wrong, there is a lot to do but there isn't any electricity in the air. For example, once you leave a night club, the whole streets are usually empty and quiet and people just silently take cabs or walking back home. 

I can't really explain what I mean but for my British peers NY has about the same "energy" as Nottingham or maybe Liverpool when you actually live here. I think the word I am looking for is "vibrant" maybe? NY is more similar to what I imagined Gotham would feel like than the city portrayed in Wolf of Wall Street. 

Another example, this may sound super childish but I have a joint super car spotting blog with my little brother, which started in London with Chirons and even La Ferrari's not being too hard to find zooming around and sometimes being able to have a chat with the owners. This blog for the most part has died since I got here, haven't even seen a 458 italia and luxury car owners in NY (AMG GT, Porsche) look terrified (I am black but this doesn't happen in London) and always wave me away when I approach their car. Everyone acts like their lives are always in danger which is strange because I thought NY was safer than it has ever been. 

I don't know what answer I am expecting but why doesn't NY live up to the big money, big personality, big spenders thing we see in the media? Is it because guns are more common so violent crime and robbery is a real threat, I heard it has pretty much recovered from covid but did covid drive its energy down? I know this is a retarded question but I genuinely don't get why NY and London are even compared to each other when the lifestyles are so different. 

I told a British friend of mine who lives in LA this and he said other than the weather, the wealthier and trendy parts of LA and London are more similar when it comes to lifestyle than London and NY, is this true?

In regards to comparing Los Angeles vs London. LA is not like London different vibe. Weather is better in LA, London people interact better.

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Nov 9, 2021 - 2:15pm

This thread is a joke. London is a joke. 

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee

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Nov 9, 2021 - 2:46pm

Also the Brits throwing MS are a joke. What time do bars close in London? Six hours earlier than in NYC? So lame. Lame AFFFFFFFFF.

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee

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Nov 9, 2021 - 4:41pm

May be NYC isn't a good fit for the OP and it is time to move back to London. 

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  • Associate 2 in PE - Other
Nov 9, 2021 - 7:52pm

Nothing wrong with that at all, it's just calling London more lively at night than NYC is kind of ridiculous. I love London and there's tons of valid criticism to be said for New York, but empty and quiet streets is the absolute last thing on that list lol

Nov 10, 2021 - 7:57pm

Associate 2 in PE - Other

Nothing wrong with that at all, it's just calling London more lively at night than NYC is kind of ridiculous. I love London and there's tons of valid criticism to be said for New York, but empty and quiet streets is the absolute last thing on that list lol

Plus, also the people, things to do and safety. NY, cannot win the round when it comes to low homicides.

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Nov 10, 2021 - 7:56pm

financeabc

May be NYC isn't a good fit for the OP and it is time to move back to London. 

Come on that is a cheap response. We have multiple threads about what people like and dislike. Saying go back once you came is so lame as a response.

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Nov 11, 2021 - 4:46pm

SafariJoe

financeabc

May be NYC isn't a good fit for the OP and it is time to move back to London. 

Come on that is a cheap response. We have multiple threads about what people like and dislike. Saying go back once you came is so lame as a response.

Haha, that is rich coming from you.  You have created one less than trivial topic since joining WSO.  

  • Incoming Analyst in IB - Cov
Nov 10, 2021 - 9:25pm

Yeah, i am coming to terms with this because I also feel homesick a lot even. New York is great but I miss my old friends and the city in general. Also I realized America is so big on media their accents sound fake since everyone sounds like that on TV where I'm from seems a bit surreal. 

Nov 9, 2021 - 5:07pm

Don't get me wrong, there is a lot to do but there isn't any electricity in the air. For example, once you leave a night club, the whole streets are usually empty and quiet and people just silently take cabs or walking back home. 

I can't really explain what I mean but for my British peers NY has about the same "energy" as Nottingham or maybe Liverpool when you actually live here. I think the word I am looking for is "vibrant" maybe? NY is more similar to what I imagined Gotham would feel like than the city portrayed in Wolf of Wall Street. 

The fuck? You in White Plains or New Jersey? That does not sound like Manhattan. 

Nov 9, 2021 - 5:44pm

rabbit

Don't get me wrong, there is a lot to do but there isn't any electricity in the air. For example, once you leave a night club, the whole streets are usually empty and quiet and people just silently take cabs or walking back home. 

I can't really explain what I mean but for my British peers NY has about the same "energy" as Nottingham or maybe Liverpool when you actually live here. I think the word I am looking for is "vibrant" maybe? NY is more similar to what I imagined Gotham would feel like than the city portrayed in Wolf of Wall Street. 

The fuck? You in White Plains or New Jersey? That does not sound like Manhattan. 

Yeah doesn't sound like NYC at all.

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee

Nov 11, 2021 - 7:53pm

Incoming Analyst in IB - Cov

I'm in Murray Hill, heard it was meant to be wild but even Shoreditch is better

Shoreditch, used to he a shithol* when I used live in London, now its middle class living. Plus, less crime.

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Nov 10, 2021 - 7:57pm

Prisoners_Dilemma

You mean all the garbage piling up on the streets isn't glamorous?

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  • Associate 1 in IB - Restr
Nov 10, 2021 - 4:38pm

WYM??? How can you not like the rampant homelessness and trash problem in NYC? I literally walked outside my apartment this morning to a homeless lady taking a dump in the sewer. How can you not get more glamorous than that???

Nov 10, 2021 - 7:58pm

Associate 1 in IB - Restr

WYM??? How can you not like the rampant homelessness and trash problem in NYC? I literally walked outside my apartment this morning to a homeless lady taking a dump in the sewer. How can you not get more glamorous than that???

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Nov 11, 2021 - 2:39pm

Also in NYC. You have to know how to navigate New York. It's a very large city, a lot of underground, membership only, or invite only, clubs. Also, if you're wondering why people in New York are hesitant to talk to you when you approach their sports car, it's fucking New York lol A lot of scammers all crime is highest it's been here in a while. It's also always been this way, people are reluctant and hesitant to speak to others. People are shady here. I will say though, if you have a high level of EQ you can definitely connect with some people, just have to match their vibe within that split second of approaching. Another thing, every area is different in NYC. Wide range of "vibes" throughout the entire city. That's something, if you are aware of and can adapt to, you'll appreciate. NYC > London, any day of the week

  • Incoming Analyst in IB - Cov
Nov 11, 2021 - 9:44pm

Thanks for the advice, another user gave me a laundry list of places I had never heard of so your point of being in the know and tapped in makes sense. Also on the sports car thing, I guess being a motorhead isn't really a mainstream american pastime. 

Nov 11, 2021 - 7:53pm

Friedmaneconomics

Also, I was just out in Brooklyn at a club until legit 7am a few weeks back lol

And you did not get mugged, wow!

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  • Incoming Analyst in IB - Cov
Nov 11, 2021 - 9:35pm

I've been out to Brooklyn only once, used an uber to navigate and it wasn't that bad but felt like I was too far from home. 

  • Incoming Analyst in IB - Cov
Nov 12, 2021 - 3:43am

Car culture is stronger in California, Texas, and Florida because of how dense Manhattan is. I attend the car meet in Malibu and there is no shortage of cars of the caliber you see in London. London car spotting might be uniquely good for a big city because of the guys who fly their whole fleet from the Gulf when they visit.

Dec 2, 2021 - 12:56am

Javier's at Newport Beach might as well be a daily supercar convention

Be excellent to each other, and party on, dudes.
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