Why the hate on Penn State?

I usually get tons of MS thrown at me when talking about Penn State and how many students from there get into IB. Their NLF Fund places around 90%+ of the students into Front Office roles in NYC. Even then, the alumni network is massive, and the school is in a great proximity for high-finance roles. So anything I'm missing here? Yes, it's not HYP but only <5% (that's a pretty generous number I think) actually get into those Ivy Leagues so I don't compare it to that. They have courses in Smeal dedicated to Wall Street Prep, and they get OCR from reputable companies. Still a non-target?

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Apr 12, 2018

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Apr 12, 2018

Some sort of mental disorder where they pretend that systemic child molestation wasn't covered up by their football coach and university.

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Apr 12, 2018

Wasn't that like 10 years ago? I thought that was old news, still fucked up nonetheless.

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Apr 20, 2018
Pump And Dump:

Wasn't that like 10 years ago? I thought that was old news, still fucked up nonetheless.

The school institutionally covered up for child sex abuse for nearly 4 decades to protect the football program. That is a gross offense for an academic institution and speaks to leadership priorities.

Maybe the current/prospective students are too young to remember, but to me the statue of limitations hasn't run out on my hate for Penn St. The school was not sufficiently punished for the level of evil perpetrated there, particularly given the squeaky clean image attributed to JoPa for all those years.

My children are very young, but I would never want them to be associated with Penn St even 2 generations later.

I don't run around dropping MS on posts about Penn st, but the old news line pisses me off to the extreme. People's lives are fucked permanently and to this day because of "leaders" of that school.

Apr 20, 2018

In fairness sex abuse was weird back then. Catholic Church gets their hate too. But I'm fairly certain their are studies that sex abuse wasn't any more common in the church than broad society. Multiple prep schools had scandals too.

I don't understand society back then, but it seems like society looking the other way was fairly common.

And Michigan State was protecting pedophilia just a few years ago.

That being said I've always thought Penn State was weird and I'm from Pennsylvania. Just it's own little cult in the middle of nowhere between two major cities.

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Apr 20, 2018
traderlife:

In fairness sex abuse was weird back then.

What the flying fuck? This was 10 years ago, not 1478...

Apr 12, 2018

PSU is fine. Your first mistake was caring about any of the opinions you hear on this site. PSU is fine.

Learn to ignore the opinions of people who are the ultimate at being risk adverse. I generally listen to zero of the opinions on here. You'd be well suited to do the same.

Apr 12, 2018

Haha, I see. I'm definitely thankful for this forum and finding it early on, have gotten advice from really helpful people. PSU is out-of-state for me but I still think it's worth every penny in terms of it's alumni base, OCR, and presence in high-finance roles. But I digress, someone will just make 5 alt accounts and monkey shit this without providing a logical counterpoint.

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Apr 12, 2018

It's a well branded state school. Losers will piss on it for whatever inane reasons. Reality is if you met 90% of the people who comment on this forum you wouldn't listen to their advice if it was drink water and take vitamins.

Study, enjoy yourself and live your life.

Apr 13, 2018
TNA:

Learn to ignore the opinions of people who are the ultimate at being risk adverse.

lol risk aDverse?

I had to look it up ... I had never heard that before...

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee

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Apr 25, 2018

Jerry Sandusky was just trying to spread love to beautiful children.

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Apr 13, 2018

People get really butt hurt by the fact that kids from PSU and other Big 10 Schools are able to get the same jobs as kids in the Ivies. To clarify, I'm not claiming that PSU as a whole is comparable to an Ivy in terms of overall placement, I am just saying that those in the top schools really stick their nose up at the fact that they have to sit next to a Penn State kid in their IBD/S&T job who arguably has way more experience with Finance and will probably be a more productive intern (Nittany Lion Fund/Investment Banking Workshop etc.). Obviously kids in Ivies are extremely intelligent, but to say a kid from a Big 10 School who has been building models/following the markets intensely for months is not qualified for a FO office job is ridiculous. Regarding the Sandusky thing, thats just a cop-out for PSU haters who have to find something to hate (despite the fact that it has virtually no effect on the quality of the students or administration that is there currently).

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Apr 13, 2018

@EliteStudent11

Just gonna lob you this one. Do your thing.

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Apr 14, 2018

Appreciate the shout out but this isn't a scenario for me. I prefer to make a ridiculous claim without anyone asking and have a bunch of outraged people try to disprove what i said.

In this case, I'd be the disprover. It's just not as fun

Fuckin my way thru nyc one chick at a time

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Apr 13, 2018

IU is another Big 10 school that really stands out. The IBW is practically a feeder into top IBs and plenty of MMs and Boutiques recruit. Now I don't know how recruiting is outside of the NLF (PSU) and IBW (IU) but I suppose students can still make it

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Pump And Dump:

IU is another Big 10 school that really stands out. The IBW is practically a feeder into top IBs and plenty of MMs and Boutiques recruit. Now I don't know how recruiting is outside of the NLF (PSU) and IBW (IU) but I suppose students can still make it

I've met a lot more IU grads in and around NYC than Penn State.

But, prior to moving to NYC I was in Management Consulting in Supply Chain Management and the Penn State people were highly recruited for their expertise in SCM.

So I have heard good things about the school.

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee

Apr 16, 2018

Did you consult on the best angle to take mirror selfies?

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Apr 17, 2018

not from US so not as knowledgeable on all the schools & opportunities there but i had a look at NLF on their website & linkedin and id be surprised if there wasnt something similar in Ivys etc? Surely some "entrepreneurial" kid would have already set it up by now?

Apr 18, 2018

It's because the Ivies don't need such a program, while a mediocre school like Penn State would

Apr 18, 2018

It's pretty neat, the students run a $7 million dollar fund, have weekly meetings, and discuss stock pitches.

I haven't dug into Ivy leagues that have such a thing, they don't need it anyways to standout. But I think being in NLF would give you a great talking point. It sure is better than playing with simulation money in the BB Terminal in the library and saying you "beat" the market successfully.

Edit: I also find it impressive that a lot of the NLF members are placed into BB S&T which is an extremely difficult field to get into due to the downsizing. Nevermind the fact that S&T usually seeks quant majors yet all these students are in the business college.

Apr 20, 2018

Fund itself is affiliated with the business college. You don't have to be a business major to apply / get in. Many of the fund members are finance / accounting along with majors like compsci, applied math, econ etc. They get the quant background from the non business majors.

Apr 22, 2018

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Apr 22, 2018

I believe it is a mix of 1) Not much awareness (not a lot of people are aware of all the hundreds of clubs on campus all offered by different groups / majors / etc). 2) By nature of the NLF and the career prospects it brings there (sadly) exists an incentive for people not to advertise the club. Less competition by nature yields an individual greater chances of getting accepted. I personally think they should be drawing more talent and interest into the club. Bringing in more determined students will only make the college look better and maybe even allow them to expand / grow the fund's AUM (currently around 7-8MM).

Apr 22, 2018

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Apr 24, 2018

Interestingly it is not a lack of advertising - it is an organizational rule that all members must be business majors - this rule was requested by the business school administration when the bilaws and the prospectus of the fund were drawn up. It has to do with the fact that there is a class credit component (and only business majors can take business school classes) and it has to do with the fact that the business school wanted to keep all the attention / recruiting in the business school.

Apr 24, 2018

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Apr 25, 2018

Trust me - the student leaders of the org would prefer to be able to open it up to high quality students across the school - just that their hands are tied by a stupid rule. :/

Apr 25, 2018

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Apr 20, 2018

Man who gives a fuck? This whole forum topic goes to show that online comments from random anonymous kids trigger you and that these same kids own real estate in your brain... It's all good !

Apr 20, 2018
SethDavisCFA:

People get really butt hurt by the fact that kids from PSU and other Big 10 Schools are able to get the same jobs as kids in the Ivies. To clarify, I'm not claiming that PSU as a whole is comparable to an Ivy in terms of overall placement, I am just saying that those in the top schools really stick their nose up at the fact that they have to sit next to a Penn State kid in their IBD/S&T job who arguably has way more experience with Finance and will probably be a more productive intern (Nittany Lion Fund/Investment Banking Workshop etc.). Obviously kids in Ivies are extremely intelligent, but to say a kid from a Big 10 School who has been building models/following the markets intensely for months is not qualified for a FO office job is ridiculous. Regarding the Sandusky thing, thats just a cop-out for PSU haters who have to find something to hate (despite the fact that it has virtually no effect on the quality of the students or administration that is there currently).

This is not true. I went to 2 state schools, one in the B1G and one in the Big 12. I am violently offended by what took place at Penn St and the overall willingness of people to look past it.

My guess is that most of the people offended by Penn St skew older because we actually remember the details, and additional cover up items have continued to leak over time, which makes it look even worse. What don't we know?

This is not about Ivy League kids being offended by B1G kids getting good jobs. I have never been hated on for my state school experience, either on this forum or in real life on Wall St.

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Apr 13, 2018
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Why The Hate On Penn State?

joepa knew

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Apr 13, 2018

who is "joepa" and what did he know?

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Apr 20, 2018

Come on man, and I totally wanted to go to bat for you.

I'm sure the school is fine, I'd agree with @TNA , I personally hate on PSU from a sports perspective, but I know a couple alums who are solid. The whole caring about other people's comments thing is a no-go

Apr 13, 2018

To put it in language that PSU folks will understand, Penn state alums walk around with such a smug sense of satisfaction like their school is Saquon Barkley level great, when in reality it's more like Christian Hackenberg. Yea you can get to the big leagues, but in the end NY is gonna chew you up and spit you out.

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Apr 14, 2018

You shouldn't say that about New York, it all depends on where & how you land.

Apr 13, 2018

All the girls are 5'8" brunettes - good looking, but cookie cutter

Apr 13, 2018

I hate PSU but name a target with better looking girls...I'll wait

Apr 14, 2018

Obviously UC Berkeley

Apr 14, 2018

Hahahahaha, you can't be serious. This is only true if you have an Asian fetish or enjoy hairy armpits on your women.

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Apr 15, 2018

I'm not, lol.

Apr 14, 2018

All big investment banks pretend to be "progressive" now, so Berkeley could be a plus if you get a degree in economics and graduate with a high GPA. You can help them with their Lefty cover story. Doesn't Apple have some sort of investment division? I forget what they are called. Braeburn Capital or something like that. Call their HR people and see what kind of recruiting stuff they have going on. They would love that, Berkeley -- ding ding ding, we have a winner!

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Apr 17, 2018

UVA and UNC-CH.

Apr 17, 2018

I would add Duke, Tulane, Notre Dame, GA Tech (esp cyber security), Williams College... there's huge appetite for top grads from really solid regional schools.

Ivy League grads might have more prestige with Washington DC (US govt) recruiters than in NY investment banks where they are looking for some other quality. They don't care about Ivy League. They like good schools, good grades + insane drive. Energy to burn. It's a demanding, fast-paced environment. Some autistic nerds possibly, but not too many. They are bad for morale. You can't have them controlling the overall vibe, the attrition rate will be painful.

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Apr 17, 2018
theShoeShineGuy:

Ivy League grads might have more prestige with Washington DC (US govt) recruiters than in NY investment banks where they are looking for some other quality. They don't care about Ivy League.

Yeah bro, Ivy League is soooo 1999. NYC IBs throw away Harvard and Yale resumes.

What's next? Goldman Sachs M&A discloses that U of Phoenix online program is their top target?

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee

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Apr 20, 2018

Are you serious? Texas

Apr 20, 2018

I see Texas and PSU on the same level as semi-targets. Texas does have the edge though in that dept. Although if he's complaining of all the girls looking the same, UT doesn't have a ton of diversity either.

Apr 20, 2018

That's fair (semi-target and all) but on diversity, PSU's got way more white kids (68%) than Texas (43%)

Apr 20, 2018

UNiversity of Southern Cal, University of Texas, maybe UVA.

Is University of Miami anywhere close to target. 1360 average sat score it's fairly competitive likely more than PSU. Or is it just the school for trophy daughters with rich parents looking to party.

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Apr 20, 2018

I was wondering about UMiami and IBanking in Miami. I feel like the proximity itself gives you an advantage. UFlorida is better I think

Apr 20, 2018

Everyone I know who went to the U already had a trust fund. I feel like the school would somewhat self select for smart kids who wouldn't be interested in working 100 hr weeks.

Everyone I know from their is very chill. Some kind of Latin America finance would make sense.

Their only finance famous Alums are Hank Greenberg, Martin zweig, and osama bin ladens half brother and chairman of the bin laden group.

Still kind of funny we invaded Iraq when OBL was the equivalent of a Saudi Pritzker.

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Apr 22, 2018

U Miami is an excellent school but to work in the finance world of south florida you would have to be absolutely fluent in Spanish and/or Portugese. Miami is the gateway to the Americas. It's clarifying to think of it as the NYC of latin America. Brickell Ave.

Apr 20, 2018

Calhoun Community College

Apr 16, 2018

Probably because these metrosexual Ivy nerds get rattled when they see someone fresh out of PSU undergrad who thoroughly enjoyed their college experience make it into IB.

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Apr 16, 2018

Goldman has a ton of OCR events at Penn State in the coming weeks. Who knows man.

"Work ethic, work ethic" - Vince Vaughn
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Apr 16, 2018

Even being in the NLF club, you're practically guaranteed an entrance to atleast an interview. I'm sure the professor of the program has connections to some of the banks like IU IBW does.

Apr 16, 2018

Because Penn State is for f**** like you.

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Apr 16, 2018

Good! Give in to your Anger! It will make you strong, give you focus!

Apr 16, 2018

I don't like Penn State... but to be fair I dislike almost everything, so no discrimination from my end

In all seriousness, Penn State is like the public university version of Duke or Notre Dame. Even though it's a few steps behind its peers on the academic side, its alums typically have a crazy intense school spirit and loyalty, which is largely sports related. I find this to be mildly irritating at best, and downright nauseating at its worst

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Apr 17, 2018
Going Concern:

I don't like Penn State... but to be fair I dislike almost everything, so no discrimination from my end

In all seriousness, Penn State is like the public university version of Duke or Notre Dame. Even though it's a few steps behind its peers on the academic side, its alums typically have a crazy intense school spirit and loyalty, which is largely sports related. I find this to be mildly irritating at best, and downright nauseating at its worst

Who do you consider 'peers'?

When I think of a sub-par school (academically speaking), Duke always come second to mind. Right after Cornell.

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Apr 17, 2018
DickFuld:
Going Concern:

I don't like Penn State... but to be fair I dislike almost everything, so no discrimination from my end

In all seriousness, Penn State is like the public university version of Duke or Notre Dame. Even though it's a few steps behind its peers on the academic side, its alums typically have a crazy intense school spirit and loyalty, which is largely sports related. I find this to be mildly irritating at best, and downright nauseating at its worst

Who do you consider 'peers'?

When I think of a sub-par school (academically speaking), Duke always come second to mind. Right after Cornell.

Other public universities that place undergrads into finance... UVA, UMichigan, Berkeley, etc

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Apr 17, 2018
Going Concern:
DickFuld:
Going Concern:

I don't like Penn State... but to be fair I dislike almost everything, so no discrimination from my end

In all seriousness, Penn State is like the public university version of Duke or Notre Dame. Even though it's a few steps behind its peers on the academic side, its alums typically have a crazy intense school spirit and loyalty, which is largely sports related. I find this to be mildly irritating at best, and downright nauseating at its worst

Who do you consider 'peers'?

When I think of a sub-par school (academically speaking), Duke always come second to mind. Right after Cornell.

Other public universities that place undergrads into finance... UVA, UMichigan, Berkeley, etc

Right. Probably 20 other ones as well. Do people really categorize by public vs private? Or just what's better? I would think the latter. PSU is not a good school by most objective standards. Weird to think of Duke and ND in the same category, so I assumed you were comparing PSU to Ohio State and Iowa......what were you using as a peer group for the other two?

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Apr 17, 2018
DickFuld:
Going Concern:
DickFuld:
Going Concern:

I don't like Penn State... but to be fair I dislike almost everything, so no discrimination from my end

In all seriousness, Penn State is like the public university version of Duke or Notre Dame. Even though it's a few steps behind its peers on the academic side, its alums typically have a crazy intense school spirit and loyalty, which is largely sports related. I find this to be mildly irritating at best, and downright nauseating at its worst

Who do you consider 'peers'?

When I think of a sub-par school (academically speaking), Duke always come second to mind. Right after Cornell.

Other public universities that place undergrads into finance... UVA, UMichigan, Berkeley, etc

Right. Probably 20 other ones as well. Do people really categorize by public vs private? Or just what's better? I would think the latter. PSU is not a good school by most objective standards. Weird to think of Duke and ND in the same category, so I assumed you were comparing PSU to Ohio State and Iowa......what were you using as a peer group for the other two?

I've met some reasonably smart people from PSU, so probably not all that bad. I was trying to make a rough analogy, not devise a rigorous ranking system. I'd say Duke's peers are ivy league schools, Stanford, MIT, etc. And Duke is at the bottom of that bucket, just like Penn State is at the bottom of the bucket of "public schools that actually place into finance"

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Apr 17, 2018
Going Concern:
DickFuld:
Going Concern:
DickFuld:
Going Concern:

I don't like Penn State... but to be fair I dislike almost everything, so no discrimination from my end

In all seriousness, Penn State is like the public university version of Duke or Notre Dame. Even though it's a few steps behind its peers on the academic side, its alums typically have a crazy intense school spirit and loyalty, which is largely sports related. I find this to be mildly irritating at best, and downright nauseating at its worst

Who do you consider 'peers'?

When I think of a sub-par school (academically speaking), Duke always come second to mind. Right after Cornell.

Other public universities that place undergrads into finance... UVA, UMichigan, Berkeley, etc

Right. Probably 20 other ones as well. Do people really categorize by public vs private? Or just what's better? I would think the latter. PSU is not a good school by most objective standards. Weird to think of Duke and ND in the same category, so I assumed you were comparing PSU to Ohio State and Iowa......what were you using as a peer group for the other two?

I've met some reasonably smart people from PSU, so probably not all that bad. I was trying to make a rough analogy, not devise a rigorous ranking system. I'd say Duke's peers are ivy league schools, Stanford, MIT, etc. And Duke is at the bottom of that bucket, just like Penn State is at the bottom of the bucket of "public schools that actually place into finance"

Got it. That being said.......

Joe Pa knew

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Apr 17, 2018
Going Concern:

I don't like Penn State... but to be fair I dislike almost everything

I lol'ed

Do you also dislike mango sorbet on a hot day? ahhhhh

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee

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Apr 17, 2018
Isaiah_53_5:
Going Concern:

I don't like Penn State... but to be fair I dislike almost everything

I lol'ed

Do you also dislike mango sorbet on a hot day? ahhhhh

Yeah dood. Brain-freeze-inducing vanilla milkshake or bust

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Apr 20, 2018

PSU for the general body has much lower standards than those two schools. My guess 5% max at PSU could get into one of those schools.

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Apr 16, 2018

I thought this thread was going to be about Penn State missing out on the CFB Playoff the last two years or March Madness this year... I guess I have the wrong forum

Apr 17, 2018

I started undergrad at Penn State. Absolutely regret transferring out after freshman year.
Rare to find a school that's not filled with rampant liberals running around.

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Apr 17, 2018

I tried to give you a banana but it didn't work. Psychotic Leftists are depressing (esp to look at) but there's an upside in knowing how to navigate that environment at the University level. All the big corporates are "progressive" now but of course it's completely fake. A cover story for what they really do which is make money. Nothing wrong with making money..... but now you have to pretend you are doing it to end inequality or global warming or trannies or something. Helps you in court in the event of a law suit.

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Apr 17, 2018

Yep. It's like the "initiative" to give early recruiting to URM because they are disadvantaged but in reality they all come from prep high-schools, high income, and top colleges (or how else did they find out about IB?). If big-banks really cared about disadvantaged people they would look at income bracket. It all about the image (literally) to look diverse.

Disclaimer: Not saying recruiting for disadvantaged students is a bad idea or accelerated recruiting but I think the current way is faulty. And not blaming this on my own wrong-doings but just my own personal opinion

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Apr 17, 2018

People like you are not the reason why people hate PSU. What causes people to hate PSU (and other similar large state schools) is the large subset of the PSU population that legitimately believes they have the best business program in the country (I've heard this from a few individuals first-hand). The overall ignorance and lack of knowledge of where they stand compared to their peers is really off-putting. From what it's worth I went to a private school with a similar "ranking" to PSU but we had more of an idea of what was out there and what our options were. A lot of dumb-dumbs at PSU that drink the kool aid.

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Apr 17, 2018

Checked the NLF club webpage. PSU placed 19 students as interns in front office roles (mostly BB) and 20 students FT. Thoughts? I'm sure many more got gigs from PSIA which students stay into if they don't get into the NLF

Apr 18, 2018

To give you perspective, I go to a semi-target that's about 1/7 the size of penn state's undergrad population and 1/3 or so the size of their business school. Last year, about the same number of people were entering for full time IB specifically, with many more interns than PSU going to a FO role (granted these roles are spread out among top mm's, eb's, and some BBs)...so it's not the most impressive thing in the world but if it's what you got it's what you got.

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Apr 20, 2018

What's your deal?

Apr 20, 2018

Not sure what you mean, but just saying that it's not all that impressive when your school has 50k undergrads and you're sending 19 kids to intern and 20 kids to FT in a FO position

Apr 20, 2018

Sure... but Penn State does have an incredible Turfgrass Management program that is pretty impressive

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Apr 20, 2018

Easily, it's probably best in the big 10

Apr 20, 2018

To be fair I don't think the fact that your smaller school placing a higher percentage of its Bschool into FO roles has much to do with the fact that there are significantly different / better opportunities at your school. Fact of the matter is it is that since there are so many students at penn state odds are that a bunch of idiots get into the program and bring down the rep. (You know... the whole thing about "you can bring a horse to water but you can't make it drink")

Apr 20, 2018

Well yeah, I obviously agree. just wanted to demonstrate a point that PSU isn't your worst choice for a school, but when you look at it from another perspective the opportunities it has aren't all that great either

Apr 20, 2018

Yeah, I agree with that as well. Full disclosure I'll be graduating from PSU here in 2 weeks and be going into a Corp Banking role. Not the coveted FO IB but hey, I'll take it. I would say it really is just about only the NLF kids that get serious looks from IB recruitment. Many of the other kids place similarly to me.

For me it was an in state + scholarship of like 6k / semester for PSU vs NYU out of state with no aid. I don't think it is a good idea to wonder of what might have been at NYU, I just couldn't ask my parents to pay the almost 450% price difference.

Yeah the JoePa hate is what it is. Its not like we all think child molestation is fine and dandy and perhaps the excessive school pride blinded some people to what clearly was an issue that should have been taken more seriously by everyone involved. Pretty unfair for some of the individuals commenting above to just disregard all the students as sub par supporters of "systemic child abuse"

Apr 20, 2018

Gotcha. Congrats man, that's awesome to hear tho. Where are you gonna be working?

And yeah, definitely never understood when people would actually regard PSU kids like that lmao. It's not like the entire school was in on it and was actually trying to protect him from it.

Apr 19, 2018

Its because everyone who goes/went to Penn State only talks about the fact that they went to Penn State. Its a cult

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Apr 20, 2018

@Pump and Dump I am a PSU alumni and I have posted about PSU several times on this forum and have never gotten any shit about recommending it to people looking for state schools or semi-targets or when I am speaking about the validity of the NLF. I realize there are haters but you only aggravate them by posting this. This in the end brings bad attention to PSU for future people who go to read about Penn State on this site since they just see the haters comments. Just a thought.

Alternatively, if you are prospective student feel free to hit me up in PM if you have any questions.

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