USC - target?
Is USC a regional target for management consulting? Any Trojans here whom I can ask some questions about their time in LA?
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Ping me if you want. Not in consulting, but banking is pretty much the same thing as far as recruiting at SC.
target/semi-target for west coast offices, non-target for NYC
Edit: nvm my comment above was for banking, not sure about MC. I do know that McKinsey doesn't recruit there, don't know about the rest
I know right now in the LA office there are several summer associates (undergrads) at BCG from USC, so I imagine it's a target.
Beachbum89, thank you! Just have to get my "banana points" up beforehand.
I know Bain recruits out of USC. I assume BCG will be similar. But Mckinsey doesn't seem to like LA colleges much at all though since they don't recruit out of UCLA either.
Mckinsey is recruiting at the Claremont schools for full time analyst positions this year
Bain & BCG do recruit on-campus at USC. Target/Semi-Target.
http://careers.usc.edu/students/who-recruits-at-usc
Bain comes, I believe BCG does as well but they're not on this list. Definitely a target for LA, low target for SF.
McKinsey doesn't.
Semi-target on the West Coast for their undergrad program.
Non-target for MACC/MSF unless you want to go into Big4 accounting.
Yes and No. USC has no MSF, first of all. Second, the MAcc isn't a target for consulting or banking. But USC does allow MAcc people to go through the OCR to compete for consulting or banking. MAcc grads regularly place into banking, if they so desire. Investment, commercial or corporate. Honestly, it would be a stretch for a MAcc kid to make it into consulting. But the opportunity is there.
For undergrad:
McKinsey: Non-target (though I met kids from both SC and UCLA at the sell weekend - so it is possible to score an interview). McKinsey's Southern California practice is shrinking (as far as I know), so they barely hire in the region.
BCG: Regional target (for the west coast), typically one full-time hire every year. Not a major target like the Claremont colleges/UCLA/Caltech.
Bain: Regional target (for the west coast) - they usually hire more than BCG - probably because they have larger undergrad classes (bottom heavy model)
Deloitte: Regional (somewhat national) target for S&O and tech. Surprisingly, they don't really hire too many Trojans for Human Capital
LEK: Regional target (biased towards UCLA though)
Booz: Non-target
Accenture: Target
EY/PwC/KPMG: Target (primarily regional - but I've seen people request to interview with other offices)
Bottom line: If you want to go to college in SoCal and want to work as a consultant in SoCal, Claremont, UCLA, Caltech and SC are all good options.
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I was searching for the same information. Thank you for your insights. By the way, I have an additional question, will it be difficult to move from Big 4 Advisory to MC?
Fellow Trojan here at MBB as summer intern right now. Feel free to ping me
Fellow Trojan here, too. I'm interested in any of MBB southeast asia office. Is USC a target for s/e asia (singapore)?
Undergrad Trojan here, too. This thread caught my eye, so here's my first post.
From what I can tell, Bain/Accenture/Deloitte are the big consulting recruiters at USC. The USC career center already has 2 Bain and 2 Accenture info sessions scheduled for the fall.
I also know that BCG recruits at USC. McK doesn't seem to have any presence.
There are also opportunities to connect with a bunch of alumni in the consulting industry - mostly Deloitte, Accenture, PwC, Mercer, and other smaller consulting firms. Some of the older alums have MBB history, but I haven't encountered many young MBB Trojan alums.
If any trojans wanna get together and practice cases or something, PM me or let me know in the comments.
Im a trojan interested in practicing cases. Did IB this summer but interested in moving to consulting
PM me. I don't have enough bananas.
I am also a Trojan looking for fellow Trojans for case practices/info sharing. please PM me.
I, too, am a Trojan interested in doing casework.
Fellow Trojan senior here, interested in practicing cases too, as long as I can get an interview.. I have background in running my own startup and interning for a VC. Probably not too typical for a IB or MC applicant, lol. PM me
Sorry for reviving the thread. But is USC a target for MBB in Southeast Asia (Jakarta, Singapore, Kuala Lumpur)?
No
MBB Trojan here. Can't help much with LA office or undegrad recruiting (I recruited as an MBA), but feel free to post/PM if you need anything. I had several friends who went to Bain and Big 4 out of 'SC u/g, but no BCG or McK.
Fight On!
Is USC Marshall a Target School? (Originally Posted: 05/08/2012)
Title says it all
Seems like a strong semi target to me.
Not in ny
I normally see Marhsall ranked as a semi-target by other users. The networking opportunities that Marshall provides can probably land you something in New York if you do your research.
For west coast firms.
Are we talking MBA or UG? Looking at a recent MBA employment report, top BB are missing from the list of top employers. They have Citi, but no JPM, no GS, no MS (though JPM and MS are on the list of top intern employers, so probably fall right outside top full time). Most of their top employers appear to be in the consumer/retail and tech space (Cisco, Taco Bell, Nestle, P&G, J&J, IBM, GE). Based on this I would venture to say they are semi-target for the MBA program.
Source: http://www.marshall.usc.edu/mbacareer/employers%20
Semi-target, both grad and ugrad Marshall School, with strong west coast bias.
If you couldnt secure a job in IB coming from Marshall, you probably wouldn't have anyway even if you attended a target.
I knew a hand full of USC kids in my intern class at a BB.
Semi-target on the west coast, but heavily dependent on what you did before B-school.
USC undergrad has strong on campus recruiting for investment banking analyst positions on the west coast (mostly Los Angeles with some positions in San Francisco/Palo Alto).
All of the BB banks recruit on campus for summer internships and full time. Several boutiques recruit on campus as well. Almost everybody I know who went to USC, got a 3.5+ GPA and did banking/private equity internships was able to get a banking job full time.
pretty strong in West coast. But overall, not a target in NY.
USC Marshall (Originally Posted: 07/01/2006)
Anyone go there? Opinions?
I've heard it's good. If nothing else, they have a sweet football team and great weather. But, seriously, if you want to work in NYC look into other schools.
fun school, hot girls.
I'm an undergraduate in Marshall. If you plan to work on the west coast, then Marshall is an excellent choice. It may lack prestige on the east coast, but the alumni network (for Marshall and the rest of USC) is extraordinary strong in California.
Very fun school, and moving up quickly in national reputation.
ranked decent for undergrad, for grad not that sweet something like 35
Undergrad is ranked 9th Graduate is down at 29th
I just started their part-time MBA program this fall. So far so good. It's not a core school for banking recruiters unfortunately, but I think we're moving up. And if you plan to stay in SoCal like me, the network can't be beat; it is really that strong.
MBA Rankings: 2006 Wall Street Journal: 10(!) 2004 Business Week: 27 2007 US News: 29
I went to USC. Now i'm at Deutsche Bank. FIGHT ON!
Very difficult to get into a bb from Marshall.
I think it should be added that they also have a very good football team and the hot girls are dumb.
USC Marshall Undergrad (Originally Posted: 02/09/2015)
What is the reputation of USC's undergrad biz school. Really trying to decide whether or not to go here
Depends on what your other options are.
I know about 10+ friends who graduated from USC and went into IB/PE. Many of the bulge bracket, MM and boutique banks recruit on campus for summer analysts and full time analysts. Most alumni stay on the west coast in LA or SF/Palo Alto.
Great west coast placement. All else being equal, its placement is probably right behind Stanford and Berkeley
My other option is Vanderbilt, which has no biz program. So just wondering what overall rep of marshall undergrad is
College life in USC >>>>>> Berkeley, so that is something to take into account. Also USC and UC Berkeleyt are very close in terms of their academic quality and reputation... USC is also very generous with need and merit aid, so that is another plus.
All in all, Marshall > Haas. Haas might be slightly better than Marshaal but it's a small difference that you shouldn't obsess over.
This is just plain false
Yeah I realize the social life part, and I'm curious about its reputation not just as an ib target and such but just in general as well
^which part is false?
Haas is of an entirely different caliber than Marshall. The only thing that USC might have on Berkeley is the social scene, and even that is very subjective.
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How difficult is it to get back to the East Coast (specifically NYC), out of USC Marshall?
USC is very well respected in LA, and to a slightly lesser degree in SF (as a result of the proximity of Berkeley and Stanford). If you are looking to live in LA or Orange County for at least a couple years post-graduation, then USC is an excellent choice, career-wise. Vanderbilt will give you more credibility east of the Rocky Mountains.
On the social scene, though, nothing really can compare to USC, except possibly the Arizona state schools or the fraternity scene at some select schools in the Southeast.
Pretty good, a lot of undergrads tend to double with engineering or accounting. Solid placement as well with BBs and MMs in the West Coast. Very flexible school with lots of opportunities.
Pretty good for west coast placements. I'd say it's right behind Stanford and Berkeley for job placements.
USC Marshall for IB (Originally Posted: 04/13/2012)
I did a search but I couldn't really find anything on the USC Marshall MBA program...
So here's my situation...I applied to the UC-Berkeley (dinged), UCLA (waitlisted), and USC (accepted) FT MBA programs. I know the USC network is strong, but is it good enough to get opportunities in LA or SF IB offices (I want to stay in Cali)? Or is it worth reapplying to UCLA & UC-B next year?
Marshall MBA sucks. Just look at the career services report. You will probably get an IB stint, but most likely with a boutique, so expect long hrs and shitty pay.
So I should reapply?
Yes, USC will give you enough recruitment opportunities to break into IB, especially in CA. Obviously, Haas would give you more opps than USC would; UCLA maybe (last time I checked, Anderson sends ~10% of grads into finance, though you may want to verify that). Here's another way to look at it - if you couldn't get a job in IB after attending Marshall, then you probably wouldn't after attending Haas.
Whether or not you want to reapply is up to you.
Also, is your work exp in finance? The reason I ask is that it's getting harder to "career-switch" into finance, or any industry, really.
Is USC a Target? (Originally Posted: 01/23/2007)
(SoCal, not South Carolina)
I wouldn't have thought so, but I hear about U-Mich being a target, and both schools are ranked similarly by U.S. News, so I thought I'd ask.
TIA.
Yes, USC is a target.
Depends on the bank. (Same can be said for most schools)
Yeah, for the NFL draft
Thanks.
USC has good alumni network and presence in LA. That's about it. Elsewhere, Michigan blows away SC, except in football. Haha
it's a target for private wealth management divisions. they go there to recruit idiotic trust fund kids who don't know how to manage their money into opening accounts.
...USC is definitely a target school....big time presence. You mean for gay porn actors, right?
USC (Marshall) is best described as a "semi-target" school. All the bulge bracket banks come to recruit on campus for IB, however it's not easy to land positions in NY. Most of the big banks use USC (just as UCLA and Berkeley) to fill up west coast offices (San Francisco and LA). USC is also fairly heavily recruited for positions in Asia (HK and Tokyo)
Many middle market banks and boutiques also recruit through Marshall. Overall, USC Marshall has a growing presence on the street.
Thanks very much.
Not a target for BB per se--it's difficult w/o knowing someone personally who can pass your resume along. We had a few Marshall apps in our summer associate pool and there were a lot of football jokes made by my VPs before their resumes were thrown out.
LB Banker, I believe that the poster was refering to undergrads, not MBAs. USC Marshall has a MUCH stronger repuation for undergrad than for MBAs. Not many Marshall MBAs go into IB, especially not for BBs.
I was definitely referring to UG. Sorry for not making that clear. Does that change anything, LB Banker?
Not sure then--nobody in my class is from USC but that could be just a reflection of my bank.
They are far and few... think W. coast. I'm sure there is one buried somewhere in your class. they always pop-up unexpectedly.
no, it is not truly a target. only somewhat.
just double-checked my analyst face book. no usc. the west coast kids are Cal or UCLA.
None? i guess i'm relying on my w.coast knowledge too much. let me retract my earlier statement and rejigger so it's reads "they are a target on the w.coast."
thanks dude.
USC takes a back seat to Stanford, Berkeley, UCLA and the Claremont Schools on the west coast.
I don't think anybody disputes that (although some might take issue with the Claremont schools).
Question was simply whether USC was a target. Consensus seems to be that it is, but only on the west coast.
Dude no one gives a fuck if its UCLA or USC.
GS LA takes a shitload from USC. But.... it's GS LA
I know CS and UBS LA interview there barely ever or in UBS' case never take any USC kids for the generalist programs.
GS LA is sorry. It's like the ML Palo Alto of LA.
Wait shouldn't limit it to ML Palo Alto, but ML in all west coast offices.
ML Healthcare in San Fran has taken a lot from USC.
who'd want to work at ML on the west?
BB.MandA.3rdyear...Love your passion and I commend you for adding a lot to the board, but please tone down the arrogance.
Prostelitizing generalizations or half-truths can be a disservice.
I am not trying to be confrontational, and thanks again for contributing.
I don't mind sifting through the arrogance. This is one of very few sources for information I have, so I'll take what I can get. :-)
Thanks again.
There has always been a rivalry between ML Palo Alto and MS Menlo Park. How it started or why it continues or on what basis it is, I don't know anymore... it just does. He/she's just touting their pride. It is what it is. I still respect what they say.
Claremont, USC, UCLA, Haas or whatever have the same opporturtunities. They all have on campus interviews, same super days etc.
You're fine at USC.
No ML is not a competitor. Competitors to MS on the west are core CS/GS sideliners UBS/Citi not on the map ML/Lehman/JPM
Interesting. Just stating what I've heard from an analyst who was in your office and a 3rd year associate who's now "down south" who was there too. Much smack talking from you guys on ML.
ML has been around alot longer, than a UBS/CS so they have more legacy i guess. But uhh i don't know anyone who thinks ML is hot at MS. so yea.
oh, i agree ms is "hotter." there might have been competition btwn the two but it seems like you guys like to talk it up (ie rivalrly of some type). i'm just saying what i've heard and spinning it with my perspective. no hard ones. so yeah.
I mean if you work at ML, I can see why you're upset. So sorry in advance. but everyone who is in banking on the west knows who the players are and ML is like triple A
Isn't USC just for kids that couldnt get in to UCLA?
umm... no. That wouldn't make sense since USC's admitted class has both a higher average GPA and a higher average SAT score than UCLA's.
not sure i went to school on the east, but no one that i know thinks UCLA/USC/Cal are that much greater than each other. What it comes down to is aside from stanford and caltech all the other schools on the west are 3rd tier at best.
than USC and UCLA
By that logic, UBS LA is inferior to Goldman Sachs' handjob division since the quality and reputation of individual groups don't matter.
Last time I checked, there are some damn good departments operating within these "3rd tier" schools.
Ahh sorry you must be at Haas, great school. thx.
Didn't know we are going to go into each schools department.
so each school has over 20 departments and let's pick all the pac-10 and some private schools.
I visited Cal once as a kid. Hated the place so much I didn't even bother applying when I did the UC application.
I know most people usually pick schools by overall reputation, but I knew exactly what I wanted to study in college so I targeted specific departments/programs and didn't really pay attention to overall reputation.
In terms of top west coast departments...a few come to mind
UCSD biotech - one of the largest concentration of biotech companies surround the area.
USC film/accounting - UCLA has a good film program too (just smaller). SC is a big 4 factory. Lots of accounting automatons coming out of there.
UCSB physics - Prime destination for people who got into Cal Tech, but still demand a social life.
Cal - Haas is good. So is the engineering department.
UC Davis Agriculture - moo.
Pomona is an overall solid school.
You may be right, but as a recruiter out of NYC you probobly don't dive into the schools, looking at major, etc. Granted there might be an MD who went to UCSB and a bank recruits there, it would not be the norm.
You rarely see a UCSD or UCSB person in banking, I think Wachovia has UC Davis as a target school though.
Good call on Pomona, claremont is also good.
very few people that go to usc got into ucla, and almost everyone that goes ucla got into usc.
ucs's higher test scores is a fallacy of numbers, most of which stems from the fact that they are a private university vs ucla which is a public. usc can opt not to include scores of individuals such as athletes, legacy's, winter trojans, employees children, ect. whereas ucla reports all scores. in addition usc reports a students best math and verbal, which can be from different test dates, whereas ucla reports your scores from a single test sitting.
usc is a solid school but lets not kid ourselves here, anyone from california knows that ucla is a cut above usc
Where would you rank the Claremonts (Pomona/Claremont McKenna) in relation to UCLA and USC
No one cares. And to be frank, you're splitting hairs.
You might want to add "IMO" to that opinion since there are zero facts to support that view. You might have had a valid point if it were the 80s...
Why do you think UCLA is a cut above? Aside from the public/private difference, USC and UCLA are very similar. Both have their strengths and weaknesses. Both are targeting the same students to enroll. Both are drawing the same companies to hire students. Both have their share of geniuses and douche bags.
I've never met a USC kid anywhere on the street.
It's common knowledge on the west coast that UCLA is better than USC. This shouldn't even be a debate.
UMich is leagues above USC
in banking Umich places alot more than USC.
umich=uva=berkeley=ucla
these schools are the public ivies, only reason they aren't ranked as high in us news is because they are public and us news is clearly biased towards private schools that go out of their way to meet their ranking requirements. just look at other non us news rankings as well as international rankings and these schools are ranked much higher.
What Ke18sb says is very well known...USC manipulates its US News ranking in ways the publics cannot. Are you really telling me there are 15 better schools than Berkeley?
People pay way too much attention to that particular magazine's ranking. Look at their methodology...It doesn't take a PHD to figure out that it's flawed. It's a better indicator of socio-economic status of a campus than it is of quality education.
any idea on how the claremonts and other liberal arts colleges fare.
USC is not a strong target.
Maybe the buyside has turned me into a naysayer, but I take sweeping generalizations with a grain of salt. I could care less about publication rankings and their useless metrics.
If someone says one school is a cut above another, I want to know why. If reputation is your only reason, then it might be time to re-evaluate your assumptions.
Just because Cal's reputation is bolstered by its world class graduate programs doesn't mean I'm going to get a quality education as an undergrad attending overcrowded lectures (if you can register for the class) taught by TA's. Hmm...I think I just made a sweeping generalization.
Michigan = Berkeley UVA UCLA
That would be an accurate ranking of the publics.
disagree, they are all equal, they trade spots in the rankings every year. ucla and cal are are equals, cal is just older and thats the only reason its ranked higer, only california people would know this but ucla and cal are equally difficult to get into, in fact lately ucla has been harder to get into than cal. ucla has been the number 1 applied to school in the country for the past 5+ years. tons of kids get into ucla and not cal and tons of cal kids don't get into ucla, but odds are you if you got into one you got into both. it typically comes down to wanting to live in socal or nor cal. people not from california typically are not familiar with our public education system only assume cal is better because of rankings. fyi i'm refering to ug
Think you've got something a bit mistaken. NYU has been the most applied to school in the country for some time now, definitely the last two years at least.
The only serious target university in California is Stanford. They get graduates recruited for jobs in NY as well as on the West Coast. Even Berkeley does not have that kind of prestige. And Stanford is by far the best university on the West Coast.
Here's how it goes Stanford (gap) Berkeley UCLA Claremont colleges (gap) USC
USC is a joke school for stupid rich kids. Everyone in Cali knows that. I don't know why any company would make USC a target.
Stanford is probably the best school out here in terms of breadth of solid offerings. I would add Cal Tech, Harvey Mudd and Pomona too to the list of A-players out here.
The curve at Marshall is actually pretty difficult. It doesn't help SC kids during recruiting.
sorry dude, nyu is about 15,000 shy from that honor
per nyu website: Number of Applications: 34,944
per ucla webiste: Number of Applications: 50,694
How would USC Marshall compare to UMich LSA? Even though Los Angeles has opportuinities for school year internships, ect.?
I know they both get recruiters but are there just that many more at Umich? What about for west coast? How hard is it to get a NY analyst job from USC?
The UC schools use a common application system so the huge number of UCLA applications isn't surprising.
Overall, getting into Cal or UCLA isn't that difficult as a California resident. As long as you have high GPA/SAT scores, getting admitted isn't a difficult process.
Just to inform some of the ignorant ppl here, USC IS A TARGET.
I am a junior at USC doing Banking recruiting for SA positions at BB..here are the banks from LA/SF that came here for networking events and are doing OCR. Suck it:
(And i know plenty of kids that have worked here last summer/have full time offers and others that are working in these SF/LA offices now.)
JPM MS CS Barclays UBS BAML Citi WFC Houlihan (not BB, MM i knw) Piper J (MM)
Speaking as one of the people that you listed above...relax. No need for that kind of attitude. It doesn't help anything.
judging by how the last post was in 2007, i think it's safe to say that no one gives a fuck
lol just trying to keep things up to date!
it's nice you have those BB's doing OCR at USC, but it's for their regional offices in LA / SF. Saying USC is a target school just isn't true.
lol, whats wrong with being targeted by regional offices? All the BBs hire at USC and your conclusion is 'USC is not a target school'? What's a target school then? Do you really have to work in Goldman Sachs NYC to be considered working for Goldman Sachs? Your logic is flawed.
Nothing wrong with a regional office. Get just as much shit done as "NYC" offices with better weather and hotter mamas.
USC is a target. All my friends / classmates are at BB/boutiques spread across the US.
@nutsaboutWS... :)
^ thank you. finally good logic!
^^ Absolutely. Who cares whether those kids think you are in a target school or not. Most of them know next to nothing about u or the school. If they wanna judge, it's their choice. If you wanna shut them up, there is no need to argue on the forum. Just outperform them in the interview. :)
^ to the two previous comments: note taken and thanks, will just prove myself in the interview, my b for the hostility.
No. West coast=Stanford, UCLA, Berkeley, Pomona College, and I would say even Santa Clara over USC in ibanking
Ugh. I wish I didnt see this post. But this post irritates me.
To be clear, my comment is less in defense of my alma mater and more of an insight into recruting in general.
If you got into USC, chances are you are that you will be choosing between UCB, UCLA, NYU, UMich, Tufts, Boston College, UVa, Georgetown or any other college with a similar class profile. At that level, school rep no longer matters, its pretty much an even playing field in the OCR and interview process. At this point, it comes down to the candidate's profile - GPA, major, internships, ECs, fit, etc. - I cannot emphasize that enough.
I am a die-hard SC alum and will actively seek out and recruit young alums whenever the chance comes up. But when it comes down to the recruiting process at the entry-level, I will always go with the best candidate, even if they went to UCLGay, the People's Republic of Cal-BerkeleyHomo or worse. Guess what, it has happened. And guess what, it happens all the time everywhere. Guys, this is how recruting really works - companies hire the person, not the school (unless you went to Wharton or HYPS). Some of you tools just dont get this. BBs would only employ HYPS and Wharton alums if this was not the case.
Under normal circumstances, if you couldnt get a job in IB with all of USC's resources (robust OCR and alumni support) then you probably wouldnt have gotten a job in IB from Cal/UCLA/Stanford/whatever.
Another thing - clearly its debatable that USC has some presence in IB, as proven by some of the comments among reputable members on this thread. That's a statement in itself. And although a number of reputable IBs come to USC's campus to recruit, they only tend to take the very best. When I was going through OCR in 2007, I interviewed with ML, MS and Lehman Bros., but dinged from all. I knew of only 2 going to GS (IBD in NYC). USC is a semi-target, not a solid target, but so is every other school with a similar profile.
To the soon-to-be high school grads heading to USNews top 20-50 colleges and are concerned about semi-target recruiting - dont worry so much about brand name, you (not your college) will dictate your recruiting chances in IB.
Lecture over. Now go back to bed, children.
Thank you RE Capital Markets for your views!
^^
As a UCLA alum, I couldn't agree more with everything you just said. While I too actively sought UCLA kids, I've hired USC ones instead if they were better. The UCLA and USCs of the world provide access to these jobs but only the best and brightest kids get hired. So if you are in that band of schools just focus on grades and internships and stop worrying about the name on the degree.
Does anyone know if USC does well in Asset Management? (Originally Posted: 02/22/2015)
I was looking at their student placement and it doesn't share specific finance areas. I'm wondering if anyone knows how they place in Equity Research / Hedge Funds? Thanks.
I don't specifics about the program, but the Trojan Network is one of the best if not arguably the best alumni network in the country. They take care of their own. There's definitely a good amount of Asset Management shops in Southern California. Not to sure about equity research.
Like the previous poster said, USC, and Marshall particularly, has a huge network. Big AM shops in LA like Western Asset Management and PIMCO in Newport are filled with SC guys. USC places ~20 kids per year in banking so I'm sure there are at least a few going into ER. Most OCR for finance is IBD, but there are definitely some postings for ER and AM.
Not too sure about OCR for HFs, but if you go to their website, I'm sure you'll find some fellow Trojans who'd be happy to chat on the phone.
Fight on
I thought Marshall MBA didn't get strong OCR? How are they placing well?
Is USC Marshall a target at Moelis LA? (Originally Posted: 06/15/2014)
also are Moelis exit opps to PE/HF as good as people say here?
bump
bump?
Chances for NYC BB from USC (Originally Posted: 03/21/2013)
What are the chances for me working in an NYC BB after finishing my four years at USC as an undergrad? Currently finishing my freshman year as a science major, but I plan on minoring or even switching a major. Any advice for this? Also, what kinds of internships should I be looking at for this summer or next? Would it be alright if I just did corporate science research this summer?
My end goal would be a summer analyst position my junior summer. I understand that USC is only a target for west coast BB but I really do want to work in NYC and believe I am a very competent/competitive applicant.
Why NY? Go MoCo LA
USC Marshall UG (Originally Posted: 05/06/2014)
What is the reputation of USC Business School at the undergraduate level. How does it compare to Haas, McCombs, and Ross for staying on the west coast after graduation. Many Thanks
Marshall kinda have been falling in reputation for a while now. I would definitely choose Ross/Haas over Marshall and probably McCombs as well unless you are set on LA.
Even at the undergrad level
This is cliche but here is my advice as a person attending one of the two schools in the LA area (UCLA or USC) (I am a Liberal Arts major though). Why are you only concerned about working on the west coast? In this world we live in, your best job could very well be away from the west coast, would you give up that opportunity just because it is not on the west coast? For what it is worth, I wanted to stay on the west coast after graduation but every good offer I got was in the Midwest or East Coast. In the end, I will be returning to Chicago for work because that was the best opportunity for me. So you should really be thinking about this as which school puts in in the best position regardless of location and the answer to that question is Haas/Ross blow away Marshall without a doubt.
At the undergraduate level, I would say say Ross > Haas = Marshall > McCombs.
I have always thought that UC Berkeley as a whole is overrated at the undergraduate level. If you look at the acceptance rate, it isn't too impressive. The applicant pool is very weak and the application process is a joke.
A lot of people say that Haas is impossible to get into, but I've spoken to many Haas students and they say that most of the rejected students failed to complete the required courses. Here is a link with a breakdown.
https://haas.berkeley.edu/Undergrad/class_profile.html
Just my two cents
USC as an East Coast Target (Originally Posted: 10/31/2017)
Currently attending USC (SoCal,) and was wondering how hard it would be to get a junior year internship at either a BB or elite boutique in New York. I know USC has OCR for many of the BBs, but they are primarily scouting for their LA and San Fran offices. How hard will it be for me to get an offer on the East coast?
Friend just got a NY Citi SA from SC. So definitely possible.
Everyone who wants NY gets NY. It's self-selecting because the kids who recruit NY are the ones who want it the most and are the most informed and prepared.
Is UCS Marshall a target? (Originally Posted: 05/27/2014)
or at least a semi target? I'm talking about for nyc BB IBD. If not should I transfer?
I think Marshall is the best undergraduate business school in the west coast (considering Stanford and UCLA do not offer undergraduate business programs), ergo I would say USC Marshall is a target for the west coast but maybe a semi-target for NYC, if they even know what USC is. I could be wrong but in my experience nearly no one in the east coast has heard of USC. I am also interested to learn what other people think about this.
Haas is the best undergrad business school in the West coast. UCLA's biz econ in my personal opinion is better than Marshall. NYC IBD from USC would be very difficult.
Stanford > Haas > UCLA > CMC > USC
I believe OP is inquiring about undergraduate business schools.
wow didn't think it was that bad... so do you guys think I can network my way to GS/MS/JPM IBD in nyc or should I transfer to a target?
I think that if you intern freshman and sophomore years at Los Angeles and land a SA in NYC, you might have a decent shot at NYC. However, if you have excellent grades try to transfer to Stern or Columbia if being close to NYC is all that important for you.
USC Marshall is not a target for NY. It is a semi-target at best.
@"Henry Kissinger" Haas is an undergraduate business school, and is much stronger than Marshall when it comes to IB recruiting. People on the east coast have definitely heard of USC (football, fun school, attractive people, great weather), but the school simply isn't a target school.
I never suggested USC Marshall was a target in NYC, I said it was a target for the west coast. "USC Marshall is a target for the west coast but maybe a semi-target for NYC, if they even know what USC is."
ok... so would that mean that usc is a target at Moelis LA?
Off the top of my head, of all my CA PE megafund senior contacts, I can think of a number Marshall graduates, both undergraduate and esp. MBA. They certainly seem like a very respected and recognized name.
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