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12/26/11

So round 1 decisions are out at almost all the b-schools, and a bunch of people I know have been fortunate enough to get into top programs. They're obviously ecstatic, as they should be. Congrats to all of you guys who got in! Your hard work has paid off, and you can now relax and enjoy the holidays. Best of luck as you guys embark on the 2 most exciting and transformational years of your lives.

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12/23/11

DID YOU GET INTO HARVARD BRO

Accepted.com
12/23/11

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12/23/11

Brady is no longer serious, I've suspected that for a while, but I think it's confirmed now...

If your dreams don't scare you, then they are not big enough.

"There are two types of people in this world: People who say they pee in the shower, and dirty fucking liars."-Louis C.K.

12/23/11

I am not 100% sure you need to go to B-school to be successful, and I'm not sure that *everyone* who graduates from the top B-schools winds up being successful.

But congrats to all.

12/23/11

Thx... got into HBS, ecstatic for the life-defining 2 years to come... like to thank everyone for their encouragement.

12/23/11

HARVAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARD

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12/23/11

Im with Illini on this. Also, I suspect that b-school will not be the most exciting and/or formative period of their lives (sorry for them if it is) but congrats nonetheless.

12/23/11

Illini, of course a degree is not going to guarantee your sucess. It's absurd to think otherwise.

However, a top MBA does open doors for you and gives you access to companies that you normally would not have access to.

junkbondswap, socially, b-school is unrivalled. It's basically 2 years of never-ending social activities, travels, parties. Unless you're a fucking celebrity or jet setting trust fund kid, i doubt you will have a more fun 2 year period than b-school.

In reply to Brady4MVP
12/23/11
Brady4MVP:

Illini, of course a degree is not going to guarantee your sucess. It's absurd to think otherwise.

However, a top MBA does open doors for you and gives you access to companies that you normally would not have access to.

junkbondswap, socially, b-school is unrivalled. It's basically 2 years of never-ending social activities, travels, parties. Unless you're a fucking celebrity or jet setting trust fund kid, i doubt you will have a more fun 2 year period than b-school.

How is being in school more fun than being retired after having a successful career hanging out with people who you actually care about instead of people you are trying to network with to get a job?

But what do I know?

The answer to your question is 1) network 2) get involved 3) beef up your resume 4) repeat -happypantsmcgee

WSO is not your personal search function.

In reply to bfin
12/23/11
blackfinancier:
Brady4MVP:

Illini, of course a degree is not going to guarantee your sucess. It's absurd to think otherwise.

However, a top MBA does open doors for you and gives you access to companies that you normally would not have access to.

junkbondswap, socially, b-school is unrivalled. It's basically 2 years of never-ending social activities, travels, parties. Unless you're a fucking celebrity or jet setting trust fund kid, i doubt you will have a more fun 2 year period than b-school.

That's precisely the point. I'd much rather have the time of my life with people who are as intellectually stimulating and interesting as myself, while I'm in my late 20's rather then when I'm in my late 50's and can
How is being in school more fun than being retired after having a successful career hanging out with people who you actually care about instead of people you are trying to network with to get a job?

But what do I know?

That's precisely the point. I'd much rather have the time of my life with people who are as intellectually stimulating and interesting as myself, while I'm in my late 20's rather then when I'm in my late 50's and retired.

12/23/11

Blackfinancier, you're making a false assumption-that people in business school are mainly hanging out with their classmates in hopes of getting something from them. Although i'm sure there are people who think that way, it is a far cry from what actually goes on socially. The fact of the matter is, students at top business schools genuinely want to meet new people and have fun. Lifelong memories and friendships are forged during this 2-year period.

In reply to Brady4MVP
12/23/11
Brady4MVP:

Blackfinancier, you're making a false assumption-that people in business school are mainly hanging out with their classmates in hopes of getting something from them. Although i'm sure there are people who think that way, it is a far cry from what actually goes on socially. The fact of the matter is, students at top business schools genuinely want to meet new people and have fun. Lifelong memories and friendships are forged during this 2-year period.

You don't know first hand any of this information... you are assuming, based on others' accounts that your b school experience will be the best time in your life, but you have no way of knowing until you are actually there. Your obsession with business school is so sad. You have a good job, you should travel and just have fun, rather than paying tuition to do it with other people. None of your analysis of business school really seems to sync with the experiences my friends who went to HBS had, and I have several friends who went there.

12/23/11

Rufio, I respect your points. In my case however, I don't like my job, and socially I don't have a lot of options due to my circumstances. A top b-school will open up a floodgate of career opportunities, and socially it will provide me with an experience that I can only dream about. There's nothing like being a young healthy person who is surrounded for 2 years by smart, interesting, accomplished people, and partying and travelling your ass off with them. That is something that money cannot buy.

In reply to Brady4MVP
12/23/11
Brady4MVP:

Rufio, I respect your points. In my case however, I don't like my job, and socially I don't have a lot of options due to my circumstances. A top b-school will open up a floodgate of career opportunities, and socially it will provide me with an experience that I can only dream about. There's nothing like being a young healthy person who is surrounded for 2 years by smart, interesting, accomplished people, and partying and travelling your ass off with them. That is something that money cannot buy.

Great points.

This is a personal decision for everyone. Different people have their reasons for doing a top-tier b-school. It doesn't matter what anyone else has to say. There are millions of people who would love to be in the position of choosing between staying at work making well over 6 figures in a prestigious job vs. going to a top ranked business school. It's not like any decision will end badly.

12/23/11

bros if HBS prevents brady from offing himself because he hates his job and has no friends then let's just let him vent here. geez

In reply to Brady4MVP
12/23/11
Brady4MVP:

socially I don't have a lot of options due to my circumstances.

Would this have anything to do with every word coming out of your mouth being an acronym?

I'll say it again. Your obsession with business school is very unhealthy and it suggests to me that you're unhappy with how your life is playing out. Look, I'm sure business school is great, and would involve a significant amount of socialising but the fact that you're placing such a huge emphasis on it is frankly weird. Let's say you're 30 OK. I'm a whizzkid 26 year old, and I think I'm the shit. Do you think I want to socialise with you when your overeagerness is going to border on pathetic? God no. Most of these kids that you'll want to hang out with are going to be colossal douches, and the others will be hard-working family people, looking to further themselves and not loiter drunk at some bar come 3am.

Drop this fascination with business school. If you hate your job, move the fuck on. I hated my job, know what I did? I quit. And I found another job within 3 weeks. In fact I had three offers at one time. Business school could change your life, correct, but the rate you're going it could turn out to be the most expensive mistake you'll ever make. Face facts bro, if Harvard was meant to be, you'd be there by now.

In reply to whatwhatwhat
12/23/11
whatwhatwhat:

bros if HBS prevents brady from offing himself because he hates his job and has no friends then let's just let him vent here. geez

He's not venting though. He's making it worse for himself.

12/23/11
12/23/11

This has gotten out of hand

12/23/11

Brady, what would you do if you didn't get into HBS?

I am not cocky, I am confident, and when you tell me I am the best it is a compliment.
-Styles P

In reply to wolverine19x89
12/23/11
scottj19x89:

Brady is no longer serious, I've suspected that for a while, but I think it's confirmed now...

I don't know. He actually was pretty helpful in regards to answering questions about which programming languages to learn for S&T.

I am not cocky, I am confident, and when you tell me I am the best it is a compliment.
-Styles P

12/23/11

I've never heard someone so desperate to have a good time. $2,000 bar tab is less expensive than 2 years at HBS.

12/23/11

so as much as Brady combo-jerking off to HBS on this forum was / is overdone, everyone piling on and giving him shit for the same thing over and over again is pretty much doing the same. as others have said bradys given helpful advice to others on the site and at least is well connected enough to network with all these M7 kids. in the end he isnt hurting anyone at all-- and for the last couple of threads he hasnt really initiated any of the HBS fapchatting

ill agree he does get overtly excited at times about it and focuses a bit much but everyone piling on him is just as much as people making snarky troll comments on reddit

12/23/11

B-School is definitely not 2 years of vacation, especially if you are pursuing a financial career. Grades count in recruiting and people are wicked competitive. I just finished the core at an Ivy B-School and it was totally miserable. People are incredibly stressed, worried about finding 6 figure jobs, staying up all night cramming for finals. We rarely ever partied. We studied and traveled to meet with alums in order to find jobs. And I'm far from a nerd or a loser. I would love to go out every night but you can't afford to slack off.

I'm sure next year or even next semester will be more of a social scene. But don't fool yourselves. There is a ton of work to do and an incredible amount of pressure to find a job worthy of your school's ranking.

Accepted.com
12/23/11

Slightly suspicious Brady is just elite trolling us with his HBS "obsession"

12/23/11

SDBall22, I don't want to sound like a jackass, but based on your use of the term "Ivy B-school," I'm pretty sure you're either at cornell or yale, in which case your description makes total sense. Once you go outside of the M7, getting a good finance job becomes extremely difficult. So you end up doing a lot of work, trying to impress recruiters with top grades, and networking your butt off to land interviews. At M7 and especially HSW, grades basically don't matter. Moreover, the top companies come to campus to recruit, thereby giving you ample opportunity to meet with them and get interviews much more easily. At the elite schools, students spend most of their time partying, socializing, and traveling. Yes, they work hard to get jobs, just like everyone else, but the pressure is not as nearly as intense.

This is why for me personally, anything below a M7 is not worth the cost. If I do go to b-school and drop that kind of cash, I want to party like a fucking rockstar for 2 years and leave with fond memories that will last me until the day I die.

In reply to Brady4MVP
12/24/11
Brady4MVP:

SDBall22, I don't want to sound like a jackass, but based on your use of the term "Ivy B-school," I'm pretty sure you're either at cornell or yale, in which case your description makes total sense. Once you go outside of the M7, getting a good finance job becomes extremely difficult. So you end up doing a lot of work, trying to impress recruiters with top grades, and networking your butt off to land interviews. At M7 and especially HSW, grades basically don't matter. Moreover, the top companies come to campus to recruit, thereby giving you ample opportunity to meet with them and get interviews much more easily. At the elite schools, students spend most of their time partying, socializing, and traveling. Yes, they work hard to get jobs, just like everyone else, but the pressure is not as nearly as intense.

This is why for me personally, anything below a M7 is not worth the cost. If I do go to b-school and drop that kind of cash, I want to party like a fucking rockstar for 2 years and leave with fond memories that will last me until the day I die.

I go to Yale SOM. Not only do we abide by a grade non-disclosure system, we don't have grades. Last year, we had almost an 100% internship placement rate. For instance, in terms of investment banking, we had 40 out of 230 kids getting investment banking internships and 30 at bulge bracket banks. This was one of, if not the, highest placement ratios among all top business schools. From talking to my friends at other top schools, I definitely though recruiting was relatively easier at Yale given our small class size and outsized alumni contributions.

In reply to SDBall22
12/24/11
SDBall22:

B-School is definitely not 2 years of vacation, especially if you are pursuing a financial career. Grades count in recruiting and people are wicked competitive. I just finished the core at an Ivy B-School and it was totally miserable. People are incredibly stressed, worried about finding 6 figure jobs, staying up all night cramming for finals. We rarely ever partied. We studied and traveled to meet with alums in order to find jobs. And I'm far from a nerd or a loser. I would love to go out every night but you can't afford to slack off.

I'm sure next year or even next semester will be more of a social scene. But don't fool yourselves. There is a ton of work to do and an incredible amount of pressure to find a job worthy of your school's ranking.

This is true. While B-School has been overall a very fun experience, academics are not by any means as easy as some people said (at least for me). I think ibanking recruiting is by far the most competitive one (but the one with the best success ratio, at least here). Grades do count in recruiting, maybe not as much as in undergrad but you have to be sure to do well in accounting and finance at least.

All said, it does provide chances for an unbelievable career change, especially for international students.

In reply to eokpar02
12/24/11
eokpar02:

Brady, what would you do if you didn't get into HBS?

If he doesn;t post a reaction video of himself as he's opening his email/letter of rejection, I will kill Brady.

12/24/11

but then itd turn into him fapping on cam :) do you wanna see that :P

In reply to Yale SOM Guy
12/24/11
Yale SOM Guy:

Not only do we abide by a grade non-disclosure system, we don't have grades.

I was speaking to someone the other night and he mentioned that at several (most?) top business schools schools their is some sort of non-disclosure policy in regards to grades and recruiting. Can anyone confirm this?

12/24/11

My best friend called last night. The guy is currently a first-year at a top 5 mba program, and he was telling me about his winter break thus far. His classmates went on a ski trip to colorado, where they got wasted and fucked like rabbits. In his words, "pretty much everyone has hooked up by now. It's really easy to get laid in b-school." Next, he went on a career trek in silicon valley, visiting start-up tech firms on the cutting edge. And now he is on his way to New Zeland.

Fucking SICK life. Can any non-mba folks on WSO beat that? I doubt it.

12/24/11

Congratulations to everyone who made it.

could you post a short generic profile about yourself though. i.e.

ungrad school/gpa:
gmat:
industry/work experience:
any extracurricular activities:

Would really appreciate it. Just wanna gauge my chances too.

Thanks and congrats again.

Wally!

In reply to Brady4MVP
12/24/11
Brady4MVP:

My best friend called last night. The guy is currently a first-year at a top 5 mba program, and he was telling me about his winter break thus far. His classmates went on a ski trip to colorado, where they got wasted and fucked like rabbits. In his words, "pretty much everyone has hooked up by now. It's really easy to get laid in b-school." Next, he went on a career trek in silicon valley, visiting start-up tech firms on the cutting edge. And now he is on his way to New Zeland.

Fucking SICK life. Can any non-mba folks on WSO beat that? I doubt it.

So they went to Colorado, went on a ski trip, got drunk and got laid? Wow, impressive.

In reply to Brady4MVP
12/24/11
Brady4MVP:

Fucking SICK life. Can any non-mba folks on WSO beat that? I doubt it.

If I didn't know any better I'd say you were in high school...

The answer to your question is 1) network 2) get involved 3) beef up your resume 4) repeat -happypantsmcgee

WSO is not your personal search function.

12/24/11

His classmates went on a ski trip to colorado, where they got wasted and fucked like rabbits.

Whom or what did they fuck? Each other or someone (or something) else? Or, did they get fucked?

12/24/11

Unless you like pounding Indian and Chinese girls, I would say the whole "fucking like rabbits" dream is dead on arrival. I've been to a bunch of Wharton parties and for every cute chick you have 5 haggard ones. Also, if you think type A B school chicks put out like Florida State sorority chicks you might be wrong.

Not saying B school isn't fun. My MSF was one of the best years of my life and I made a shit load of friends, but at the end of the day, school is school. You have to do well, interview, prep, etc. You are with kids who are highly driven and successful. They are not going to just roll up to interviews or classes wasted and say fuck it.

What I find funny is the fact that Brady could probably get himself a decent crew of finance guys who like to party right off this website, without two years of an MBA. Also, when I think of bad ass party MBA, I don't think of cold as balls Harvard. Go to Stanford dude and just crush Cali chicks. The weather will be nice year round and you have Cali girls to pick up. Harvard is amazing, but if you are going because you think you might be slaying Sullfolk University girls, I would reconsider.

12/24/11

ANT, no offense, but I wouldn't compare the 2-3 Villanova MSF girls to the talent at HYP

Winner Winner

12/24/11

No, nor would I. But I WOULD compare the undergrads. Either way, if you think Harvard UG's are dime pieces you must be smoking crack.

12/24/11

ANT, I respectfully disagree with your characterization of Wharton. I partied there last fall; it was a fucking blast. There actually aren't that many chinese and indian fob's who can't speak english. I have no idea where this stereotyping came from. The first-year class at Wharton is now 45% women, with lot of attracitve ones who worked in fashion/media/marketing, etc. And there's tons of latin americans and europeans to boot. The same goes for HBS, although their women ratio is only like 35%. I do know for a fact that there are several ex-models who are at HBS now.

Also, HBS guys do extremely well with the girls in boston. It's sort of a running joke among the guys there about how easy it is to slay chicks at schools like bu, bc, northeastern, wellesley, etc. As one friend put it, "it's so easy it's like shooting fish in a barrel."

12/24/11

Well I suppose we had different experiences. I didn't say everyone was haggard, just saying B school isn't this cornucopia of tri delts to smash.

Look at Stanford. Much better scene IMO.

12/24/11

Brady, dog, you telling me dropping the HBS bomb makes getting laid easier than saying "I work in a hedge fund"?

You just need some bros man, what city you in?

12/24/11

ANT, you're presupposing that mba guys are only limited to girls in their class, which is patently false. At Penn, for instance, the wharton mba guys are like demi-gods on campus. The girls in penn undergrad, nursing, law, med, are obsessed with getting with a Wharton mba bro. HBS is a bit different since their campus is in boston, not cambridge. Nonetheless, the HBS guys also do quite well with those in other harvard schools, and as i mentioned before, they are very popular among the non-harvard students in boston. The stories i've heard are pretty wild.

And yes, dropping the HBS bomb is much more powerful than telling a chick that you work at a hedge fund. I mean, is this a serious question? For one, lot of hot girls don't even know what a hedge fund is. But I will bet my life that they do know harvard fucking business school. The Harvard name brand is one of the most prestigious and highly recognized names in the entire world. And second, there are thousands of hedge funds out there, the vast majority of which are awful. That's a tangential point, however.

I live in Chicago. It's a great city, and my social life is quite decent, but it pales in comparison to what my friends at top b-schools are experiencing.

12/24/11

N.R.G., they fucked their classmates.

12/24/11

N.R.G., they fucked their classmates.

Thanks, Brady.

12/24/11
12/24/11

I'm gonna have to call B.S. on this hyped up social scene Brady is talking about. The partying/hook up scene is unrivaled? WTF...what about undergrad. I have a hard time believing that the kids at bschool are going to be partying more than they did in college.

Anyway-I have a friend at HBS and she has echoed an opinion I've heard multiple times-the social scene is more upper echelon and ritzy, with expensive ski trips and travel across the world (she has a hard time keeping up). Makes sense considering a lot of students have saved a decent amount of $, and I'm sure the international kids can tap into their parents funds. But I wouldn't be calling it "Animal House" by any means.

Anyway-we made a HBS 2+2 group for newly admitted students (class or 2016). Come join us if you haven't already-just pm me and I'll send you the link. Happy Holidays everyone !

12/24/11

I'm calling BS too. First of all, 90% of the guys in B school either have families, are bookworms or are just nerds that have no idea how to party. Second, most girls in B school are not even close to being attractive. The ones that are attractive most likely have a boyfriend or fiancee. Hot girls in their mid- to late-twenties don't stay single forever.

Party like a rockstar? There are no rockstars in business school. There are business school students in business school. It is completely different from undergrad. It is completely different from living in a major city in your early twenties with a good job and no other responsibilities.

In reply to Ravena
12/24/11
Sean518:
Yale SOM Guy:

Not only do we abide by a grade non-disclosure system, we don't have grades.

I was speaking to someone the other night and he mentioned that at several (most?) top business schools schools their is some sort of non-disclosure policy in regards to grades and recruiting. Can anyone confirm this?

- GSB Stanford has a non-disclosure policy
- Wharton does as well, albeit not enforced by the school but rather the student body http://employer.wharton.upenn.edu/recruiting/inter...
- Yale has the same policy
- Booth does as well http://student.chicagobooth.edu/group/gbc/gnd.htm
- HBS used to, but reversed their position three years ago http://www.alumni.hbs.edu/bulletin/2006/march/ib_d...
- Columbia does not have NDP ... supports grade disclosure
- Tuck does not have NDP ... supports grade disclosure
- MIT Sloan does not have NDP ... supports grade disclosure

For an MBA's perspective on it, read this blog entry from a Booth graduate. http://tombaornot.blogspot.com/2008/04/on-grade-no...

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In reply to solb22
12/24/11
solb22:

I'm gonna have to call B.S. on this hyped up social scene Brady is talking about. The partying/hook up scene is unrivaled? WTF...what about undergrad. I have a hard time believing that the kids at bschool are going to be partying more than they did in college.

Anyway-I have a friend at HBS and she has echoed an opinion I've heard multiple times-the social scene is more upper echelon and ritzy, with expensive ski trips and travel across the world (she has a hard time keeping up). Makes sense considering a lot of students have saved a decent amount of $, and I'm sure the international kids can tap into their parents funds. But I wouldn't be calling it "Animal House" by any means.

Anyway-we made a HBS 2+2 group for newly admitted students (class or 2016). Come join us if you haven't already-just pm me and I'll send you the link. Happy Holidays everyone !

Yes. That's the social scene I want: upscale and ritzy. I'm too old to just drink beer and playing beer pong. Plus that gets very boring.

12/24/11

brady wants to dunk his balls in a girls mouth, not in no wata cup. yhearddddddddddddddd

12/24/11

and btw columbia dropped grade disclosure as well

12/24/11

School: Grade Non-Disclosure?
Harvard: No
Stanford: Yes
Booth: Yes
Wharton: No
Columbia: Yes
Tuck: No
Kellogg: No
Sloan: No
Haas: Yes
Fuqua: No
Darden: No
Stern: No
Ross: No
Yale: Yes
Johnson: No
Tepper: Yes
Anderson: No
Kenan-Flagler: No
Goizueta: No

In reply to Brady4MVP
12/25/11
Brady4MVP:

My best friend called last night. The guy is currently a first-year at a top 5 mba program, and he was telling me about his winter break thus far. His classmates went on a ski trip to colorado, where they got wasted and fucked like rabbits. In his words, "pretty much everyone has hooked up by now. It's really easy to get laid in b-school." Next, he went on a career trek in silicon valley, visiting start-up tech firms on the cutting edge. And now he is on his way to New Zeland.

Fucking SICK life. Can any non-mba folks on WSO beat that? I doubt it.

Sounds like this trip is very common
http://mbablogs.anderson.ucla.edu/mba_students/201...

Or does your friend actually go to ucla?

In reply to pingafrita
12/25/11
Brady4MVP:

My best friend called last night. The guy is currently a first-year at a top 5 mba program, and he was telling me about his winter break thus far. His classmates went on a ski trip to colorado, where they got wasted and fucked like rabbits. In his words, "pretty much everyone has hooked up by now. It's really easy to get laid in b-school." Next, he went on a career trek in silicon valley, visiting start-up tech firms on the cutting edge. And now he is on his way to New Zeland.

Fucking SICK life. Can any non-mba folks on WSO beat that? I doubt it.

Ahahahahaha.

Brady> real talk, are you a virgin?

12/25/11

I'm going to take the bait...

You are selling yourself short
Yes B-School will have prettier girls than your hedge fund, but that's the wrong benchmark. Also, you might be just another smart kid at your fund, but you are currently probably in the top 5% of 20 somethings in the US. Are you taking advantage of that?

Go beyond your social circle
- Finance is male dominated and there are even fewer pretty girls at hedge funds than in banking.
- Don't limit yourself to the best restaurants, exclusive golf clubs and other status oriented professional hang outs. The only single 25 year olds you meet there are guys. If clubs aren't your thing, go to an art event or something.
- The number AND quality of women the further you get away from finance is quite astonishing. Date someone without an ivy league education (or no degree at all), you'll learn a lot and will mature as a man.

Life is short
- Don't piss away your 20s waiting for b-school to start having fun. No amount of carried interest or prestige will bring these years back.
- You need to learn how to have a fulfilling lifestyle now, otherwise, what are you going to do post-MBA?

Also, congratulations to the b-school admits.

12/25/11

Pingafrita: no, my friend is not at UCLA. As I said, he's at a top 5 program.

Relinquis: thanks for the thoughtful comments. I've read your other posts, and you're quickly becoming one of the top posters on WSO. Without delving into too much details, I had a hard time socially post-college due to a number of reasons. Lately, however, I have been going out more, attending networking events, and trying to be more active socially. Although I'm happier now than I was say 3 years ago, I still don't think there's anything I can do now that will come close to b-school in terms of excitement and fun. B-school is such a unique environment, with a plethora of activities and opportunities, that it's not something one can replicate while living in a big city as a working professional.

Baddebt88: no, I'm not a virgin.

12/25/11

shorttheworld: I'm like 99% sure that wharton has grade non-disclosure. Where'd you get this info?

12/25/11

Seedy underbelly: Penn is my alma mater, bro. So yes, I know exactly what I'm talking about. The Wharton MBA's were revered and envied on campus. And I have partied there several times in recent years while visiting friends.

The med school is more "prestigious" on the academic scale, but those guys are dorks who almost never go out. And law kids are utter douches. So the wharton mba guys just absolutely clean up with the girls at Penn, and they are seen as the alpha males on campus.

You should go down to philly and check out a wharton party. It's pretty fucking awesome.

In reply to Brady4MVP
12/25/11
Brady4MVP:

ANT, you're presupposing that mba guys are only limited to girls in their class, which is patently false. At Penn, for instance, the wharton mba guys are like demi-gods on campus. The girls in penn undergrad, nursing, law, med, are obsessed with getting with a Wharton mba bro.

Um, have you even been to Penn?! Honestly, that is just utter BS. Wharton MBAs don't get half as much respect on campus as Wharton and College undergrads.

yesman:

In case you haven't realized this yet, Wharton MBA students are the biggest fucking morons on Penn's campus. They're there to re-live high school.

http://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/why-the-fuck...

On top of this, there is a creepy factor associated with the Wharton MBAs. Generally, undergrads at Penn have very little respect for the grad/professional students. It sounds ridiculous, but that's how it is. The MBAs/JDs are considered to be the lazy, stupid people who couldn't get into Penn undergrad, and are now there to make up for it.

I can assure you, very few Penn undergrad girls will be hooking up with Wharton MBAs.

And, yes, I know Penn is your alma mater.

In reply to Brady4MVP
12/25/11
Brady4MVP:

Seedy underbelly: Penn is my alma mater, bro. So yes, I know exactly what I'm talking about. The Wharton MBA's were revered and envied on campus. And I have partied there several times in recent years while visiting friends.

The med school is more "prestigious" on the academic scale, but those guys are dorks who almost never go out. And law kids are utter douches. So the wharton mba guys just absolutely clean up with the girls at Penn, and they are seen as the alpha males on campus.

You should go down to philly and check out a wharton party. It's pretty fucking awesome.

LOL. This is not true at all. If there are "alpha males" on campus, they are most certainly the M&T undergrad athletes. Girls love them.

Also, as I'm sure you know, Wharton MBA doesn't hold a candle to Wharton undergrad. And as I'm sure you've seen from WhartonConnect, the vast majority of grads one would want to reach out to, were W undergrads.

In reply to seedy underbelly
12/25/11
seedy underbelly:
Brady4MVP:

Seedy underbelly: Penn is my alma mater, bro. So yes, I know exactly what I'm talking about. The Wharton MBA's were revered and envied on campus. And I have partied there several times in recent years while visiting friends.

The med school is more "prestigious" on the academic scale, but those guys are dorks who almost never go out. And law kids are utter douches. So the wharton mba guys just absolutely clean up with the girls at Penn, and they are seen as the alpha males on campus.

You should go down to philly and check out a wharton party. It's pretty fucking awesome.

LOL. This is not true at all. If there are "alpha males" on campus, they are most certainly the M&T undergrad athletes. Girls love them.

Also, as I'm sure you know, Wharton MBA doesn't hold a candle to Wharton undergrad. And as I'm sure you've seen from WhartonConnect, the vast majority of grads one would want to reach out to, were W undergrads.

Wrong. The m&t kids are smarter for sure, but in terms of social clout and who the girls want to party with and fuck, the mba guys win out easily.

I find it hilarious that a columbia undergrad claims to know more about my alma mater than me.

In reply to Brady4MVP
12/25/11
Brady4MVP:

I find it hilarious that a columbia undergrad claims to know more about my alma mater than me.

Ok. ;)

12/25/11

Who the fuck cares how many girls Wharton MBA students get? If you want to pay +$160k to get a choice of girls, that's your business. Most sane people would probably go to a local student bar and make conversation. Bro, prestige and pedigree doesnt matter to every fucking girl out there. And, I dont know if you're referring to Penn law students as douches or law students in general, but I find it comical that after all these posts and debates, you have the nerve to refer to someone else as a douche. And I was a law student.

12/25/11

FinancialNoviceII: what's up with the straw men? I never said one should spend $160K just to get girls. The number one reason to go to b-school is for one's professional goals. The social stuff is secondary to that but is an important factor.

Girls care about prestige, but different girls define it differently. At most state colleges for instance, they want the guy who's in a "prestigious" frat or on the football team since that's how status is determined. At an elite school like Penn or Harvard, which attract ambitious smart people, a guy at wharton mba or hbs will have enormous social clout.

12/25/11

Morons like this are exactly why I am trying full capacity to get my next degree outside of the country.

12/25/11

You work in finance in Chicago, probably make some good money, what's the issue with picking up chicks? Why do you need to be at a business school to get girls? As echoed in earlier posts, in speaking with colleagues that have been to b-school, the good looking girls are few and far between, and those that are hot are usually tied down (quite frankly, if you can't pick up a babe at the bars now, what makes you think you'll get a hot chick at school? You probably look like a troll, and it sounds like you commit social suicide every time you open your mouth). Good luck rolling into BU, Northeastern, BC or Harvard undergrad parties as a not-so-hot 28 year old - that only works if you're a stud. Young girls might be slightly impressed by your Harvard MBA status, but at the ages of 18-22, chicks aren't quite desperate enough - they're still looking for a fine piece of meat, and it doesn't sound like you're going to be providing that.

12/25/11

Also, you're looking for an upscale, ritzy party environment but want to pull local college girls from the undergrad party scene? You realize that's a major contradiction, no?

In reply to seedy underbelly
12/25/11
seedy underbelly:
yesman:

In case you haven't realized this yet, Wharton MBA students are the biggest fucking morons on Penn's campus. They're there to re-live high school.

http://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/why-the-fuck...

From that thread:

Brady4MVP:

First of all, this is a very sample size. You do realize that wharton MBA has 800 students in each class? Just like any other top program, you will have mediocre people who somehow managed to get in, and some superstars as well. And wharton MBA has LOTS of finance superstars.

Moreover, b-school is like a 2-year party, the best time of your life. There's social events and parties almost every day, tons of networking, and lots of travelling to cool places.

LOL @ brady talking about small sample sizes and then projecting what he feels is the HARVARD BUSINESS SCHOOL MBA EXPERIENCE (TM) on this board

12/25/11

jimbrowngoU, the problem is not that i can't meet girls. The issue is that i'm having a hard time meeting smart attractive women who are also single. In Chicago basically every high-quality woman over the age of 25 is taken. Now, I agree that b-school has a bad ratio (although wharton is now 45% women, and other schools are improving in that aspect). But there are just a lot of opportunities available for single men, through numerous interactions in the classroom, various clubs, social events, etc. And as I said before, the MBA guys can always branch out into other schools at their university.

12/25/11

why is everyone warring with brady on christmas lol

must all be italians/latins who celebrate the day before or jews :P

12/25/11

Brady threads are so entertaining. Poster of 2011 for sure.

In reply to Brady4MVP
12/25/11
Brady4MVP:

FinancialNoviceII: what's up with the straw men? I never said one should spend $160K just to get girls. The number one reason to go to b-school is for one's professional goals. The social stuff is secondary to that but is an important factor.

Girls care about prestige, but different girls define it differently. At most state colleges for instance, they want the guy who's in a "prestigious" frat or on the football team since that's how status is determined. At an elite school like Penn or Harvard, which attract ambitious smart people, a guy at wharton mba or hbs will have enormous social clout.

Alright, you didnt say it explicitly but from your argument, its inferred. I don't believe women, who are in those schools themselves, are falling on their backs, with their legs open, just at the mere sound of someone saying HBS or Wharton. Granted there are different girls out there, but as you say the top schools attract ambitious, smart, responsible people. Yes, HBS students have clout, but I think its premature to brand them as having any more social clout then a Harvard undergrad. Social clout is a subjective thing. I have friends from Oxford, a prestigious name, who have the name but no social skills, so guess what? They get hardly any action.

Simply, the social clout you refer to is gradually exaggerated. Either because
1) The person with the clout has no interest in it (as they are married, or more mature to pass on the college scene
2) They don't know how to use it.

Sorry to rag on you all the time but your conclusions and justifications for business school are misinformed.

12/26/11

21 year old girls don't want to hook up with a guy who is 25, 26, 27 or older. Do you realize how old that is to a college girl? It is a completely different world and a completely different planet to them.

Brady, I can probably guess your hometown in three attempts. Does it rhyme with Swellesley, Beston or Rewton? If not, then it's probably in that area.

12/26/11

If you have to go to Biz school to pick up chicks you are a fucking troll looking loser.

/ thread

12/26/11

txjustin, once again you completely miss the point.

12/26/11

I wasn't attacking you bro, sorry if you took it as such.

I understand the point. I think if that's a route you're gonna take then it is a potentially great one. Just quit saying it's nonstop partying and travelling. I also have friends in biz school and they say the 1st year is pretty intense and you keep busy with the workload.

12/26/11

txjustin, I'm guessing your friends are not at a M7 b-school because my buddies at M7 are barely doing any work aside from preparing for interviews. All they do is party and travel.

12/26/11

For the love of God, just shut up Brady.

Just shut up.

If your dreams don't scare you, then they are not big enough.

"There are two types of people in this world: People who say they pee in the shower, and dirty fucking liars."-Louis C.K.

In reply to Brady4MVP
12/26/11
Brady4MVP:

txjustin, I'm guessing your friends are not at a M7 b-school because my buddies at M7 are barely doing any work aside from preparing for interviews. All they do is party and travel.

There is still a heavy courseload at HBS. Cases (and the material is a LOT) don't read themselves. Of course if one is efficient with their time, there's no reason why they can't go partying a lot during their time there ... but this is no different to undergrad.

If you're the kinda person who needs to strive all year round to get decent grades, then you probably won't like HBS that much either. If you imagine the type of people who get HBS or other top B school admissions (top academics, work experiences, and social lives at school, followed by strong performance at work and significant extra curricular achievements at the same time), then it isn't difficult to imagine that these people can easily manage a heavy course load while having a hell of a time in B School. If this was not you before B School, it won't be you at B School either.

You're focusing too much on WHAT experiences people at the top schools have while ignoring WHY they can handle it all.

12/26/11

This is hands down the gayest thread I have ever read on WSO.

It sounds like the pipe dreams of IBD analysts who are mad that they have no life and are looking for the light at the end of the tunnel. It literally has me laughing at the absurdity.

Undergrad athletes get less than B-school students? hahahahahahaha

Girls at an Ivy being attractive?

Wtf is this? lol

Reality hits you hard, bro...

12/26/11

MMBinNC, lol. You have no idea what you're talking about, bro.

In reply to Brady4MVP
12/26/11
Brady4MVP:

txjustin, I'm guessing your friends are not at a M7 b-school because my buddies at M7 are barely doing any work aside from preparing for interviews. All they do is party and travel.

One is at Booth.

In reply to MMBinNC
12/26/11
MMBinNC:

This is hands down the gayest thread I have ever read on WSO.

It sounds like the pipe dreams of IBD analysts who are mad that they have no life and are looking for the light at the end of the tunnel. It literally has me laughing at the absurdity.

Undergrad athletes get less than B-school students? hahahahahahaha

Girls at an Ivy being attractive?

Wtf is this? lol

^ Spot on. M&T undergrad athletes at Penn get more action than anyone else I know

And Brady, dude, I know a guy just like you (one of my brother's friends from his days at Penn), so I kinda get why you're putting HBS on a pedestal the way you are. But, seriously, you sound like an idiot, so stop.

In reply to seedy underbelly
12/26/11
seedy underbelly:
MMBinNC:

This is hands down the gayest thread I have ever read on WSO.

It sounds like the pipe dreams of IBD analysts who are mad that they have no life and are looking for the light at the end of the tunnel. It literally has me laughing at the absurdity.

Undergrad athletes get less than B-school students? hahahahahahaha

Girls at an Ivy being attractive?

Wtf is this? lol

^ Spot on. M&T undergrad athletes at Penn get more action than anyone else I know

And Brady, dude, I know a guy just like you (one of my brother's friends from his days at Penn), so I kinda get why you're putting HBS on a pedestal the way you are. But, seriously, you sound like an idiot, so stop.

Get your head out of your ass, kid. You're a columbia undergrad who purports to know more about Penn than an actual alum. When you're old enough, you should go down to penn and check out some wharton mba parties. You'll know what i'm talking about.

12/26/11

After reading through this thread, I feel much better about making it a point to party on the weekends during college (and also on Thursday nights during my senior year). It was a lot of fun, and now that I'm working, I know it was well worth it. Now I party even harder on the weekends because I have money. I really think that those that don't socialize are just holding themselves back from it. They have the time, but feel the need to refrain from partying because it doesn't directly contribute to their financial success. Let me tell you, I think it does because it relieves stress and teaches you a lot of things you can't learn in school/ on the job.

MKballer

In reply to MMBinNC
12/26/11
MMBinNC:

Undergrad athletes get less than B-school students? hahahahahahaha

This right here is when I knew this thread was a troll thread. There is not a single campus in the USA where the athletes don't get the most ass in school. This includes all girl schools.

The answer to your question is 1) network 2) get involved 3) beef up your resume 4) repeat -happypantsmcgee

WSO is not your personal search function.

12/27/11

Brady: Getting an MBA at Harvard/UPenn/whatever won't change the fact that you're unattractive, socially awkward, and have no "game". How much pussy did you get in undergrad at Penn? If you think that being in the MBA class will change that, then you're delusional and need to brace yourself for the harsh reality that girls don't fuck guys who aren't attractive (I'm not talking just from a physical perspective). Even if you somehow manage to land that one at best moderately attractive goldigger retard, there is another guy out there who graduated from bumblefuck college and is slaying hotter girls than you on a daily basis. Why? Because he knows what girls want. No amount of academic prestige is going to make an unattractive loser turn attractive. You remind me of this guy

The fact that you're getting a boner over a god-damn ski trip shows how pathetic your life is and has been up to this point. You definitely don't need a Harvard MBA to do that shit. It's called "having friends".

Serious question: are you a virgin? if not, have you slept with more than 3 girls?

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