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12/26/11

So round 1 decisions are out at almost all the b-schools, and a bunch of people I know have been fortunate enough to get into top programs. They're obviously ecstatic, as they should be. Congrats to all of you guys who got in! Your hard work has paid off, and you can now relax and enjoy the holidays. Best of luck as you guys embark on the 2 most exciting and transformational years of your lives.

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12/28/11

Unlike the vast majority of posters I:

A) am not a high school student
B) actually attend HBS
C) am female (and a fairly laid-back, unbiased one)

In general, and while I am very happy to attend HBS, what is discussed is quite different from what actually goes on:
The females (and males) at HBS are not overwhelmingly attractive or much more attractive than someone you'd meet in a bar
The females are EXTREMELY activist/feminist in general. i.e. they actually expect to be treated like ladies, not objects, and raise big points of debate about any gender issue in class
Most students are in relationships or married so there is not as much "rabbit f***ing" as some people think
Everyone knows everything all the time so if you are "rabbit f***ing" your section will skydeck you that week and everyone who doesn't know will know
Dating at HBS = a bad idea. Hitting up surrounding schools or Boston bars = better idea. Forming your personal value system / "how to make the most of 2 years" = best idea. You are not paying to f***. If you want to pay $200k to have sex all day, hire a pro
There are a lot of parties, but I partied while working too; who cares.
Generally, students are serious about their work, especially during recruiting season. Everyone wants to say they got a "1" in FIN. Unfortunately, only 15% of students will get a 1 in FIN due to forced curve
There are about 200 or so active partiers in the RC who you see at the Wednesday and Thursday night parties. The other 800 stay in and crank cases in the week
There is a fair bit of work. While there are not problem sets, etc, like at some schools, there is a fair bit of reading (60-100 pgs a night). The prof's can smell BS a mile away so you can't just show up and say some s*** for participation grades. You will get docked for that and they will call you out in section
It's expensive, but so is any good investment

I will say that I will probably never be around such a huge concentration of talented, energetic, over-socialized people again, which I value greatly.

Feel free to PM me on any of the above or anything in-between.

Cheers

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12/23/11
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12/23/11

Brady is no longer serious, I've suspected that for a while, but I think it's confirmed now...

If your dreams don't scare you, then they are not big enough.

"There are two types of people in this world: People who say they pee in the shower, and dirty fucking liars."-Louis C.K.

12/23/11

I am not 100% sure you need to go to B-school to be successful, and I'm not sure that *everyone* who graduates from the top B-schools winds up being successful.

But congrats to all.

12/23/11

Thx... got into HBS, ecstatic for the life-defining 2 years to come... like to thank everyone for their encouragement.

12/23/11

HARVAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARD

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12/23/11

Im with Illini on this. Also, I suspect that b-school will not be the most exciting and/or formative period of their lives (sorry for them if it is) but congrats nonetheless.

12/23/11

Illini, of course a degree is not going to guarantee your sucess. It's absurd to think otherwise.

However, a top MBA does open doors for you and gives you access to companies that you normally would not have access to.

junkbondswap, socially, b-school is unrivalled. It's basically 2 years of never-ending social activities, travels, parties. Unless you're a fucking celebrity or jet setting trust fund kid, i doubt you will have a more fun 2 year period than b-school.

In reply to Brady4MVP
12/23/11
Brady4MVP:

Illini, of course a degree is not going to guarantee your sucess. It's absurd to think otherwise.

However, a top MBA does open doors for you and gives you access to companies that you normally would not have access to.

junkbondswap, socially, b-school is unrivalled. It's basically 2 years of never-ending social activities, travels, parties. Unless you're a fucking celebrity or jet setting trust fund kid, i doubt you will have a more fun 2 year period than b-school.

How is being in school more fun than being retired after having a successful career hanging out with people who you actually care about instead of people you are trying to network with to get a job?

But what do I know?

The answer to your question is 1) network 2) get involved 3) beef up your resume 4) repeat -happypantsmcgee

WSO is not your personal search function.

In reply to bfin
12/23/11
blackfinancier:
Brady4MVP:

Illini, of course a degree is not going to guarantee your sucess. It's absurd to think otherwise.

However, a top MBA does open doors for you and gives you access to companies that you normally would not have access to.

junkbondswap, socially, b-school is unrivalled. It's basically 2 years of never-ending social activities, travels, parties. Unless you're a fucking celebrity or jet setting trust fund kid, i doubt you will have a more fun 2 year period than b-school.

That's precisely the point. I'd much rather have the time of my life with people who are as intellectually stimulating and interesting as myself, while I'm in my late 20's rather then when I'm in my late 50's and can
How is being in school more fun than being retired after having a successful career hanging out with people who you actually care about instead of people you are trying to network with to get a job?

But what do I know?

That's precisely the point. I'd much rather have the time of my life with people who are as intellectually stimulating and interesting as myself, while I'm in my late 20's rather then when I'm in my late 50's and retired.

12/23/11

Blackfinancier, you're making a false assumption-that people in business school are mainly hanging out with their classmates in hopes of getting something from them. Although i'm sure there are people who think that way, it is a far cry from what actually goes on socially. The fact of the matter is, students at top business schools genuinely want to meet new people and have fun. Lifelong memories and friendships are forged during this 2-year period.

In reply to Brady4MVP
12/23/11
Brady4MVP:

Blackfinancier, you're making a false assumption-that people in business school are mainly hanging out with their classmates in hopes of getting something from them. Although i'm sure there are people who think that way, it is a far cry from what actually goes on socially. The fact of the matter is, students at top business schools genuinely want to meet new people and have fun. Lifelong memories and friendships are forged during this 2-year period.

You don't know first hand any of this information... you are assuming, based on others' accounts that your b school experience will be the best time in your life, but you have no way of knowing until you are actually there. Your obsession with business school is so sad. You have a good job, you should travel and just have fun, rather than paying tuition to do it with other people. None of your analysis of business school really seems to sync with the experiences my friends who went to HBS had, and I have several friends who went there.

12/23/11

Rufio, I respect your points. In my case however, I don't like my job, and socially I don't have a lot of options due to my circumstances. A top b-school will open up a floodgate of career opportunities, and socially it will provide me with an experience that I can only dream about. There's nothing like being a young healthy person who is surrounded for 2 years by smart, interesting, accomplished people, and partying and travelling your ass off with them. That is something that money cannot buy.

In reply to Brady4MVP
12/23/11
Brady4MVP:

Rufio, I respect your points. In my case however, I don't like my job, and socially I don't have a lot of options due to my circumstances. A top b-school will open up a floodgate of career opportunities, and socially it will provide me with an experience that I can only dream about. There's nothing like being a young healthy person who is surrounded for 2 years by smart, interesting, accomplished people, and partying and travelling your ass off with them. That is something that money cannot buy.

Great points.

This is a personal decision for everyone. Different people have their reasons for doing a top-tier b-school. It doesn't matter what anyone else has to say. There are millions of people who would love to be in the position of choosing between staying at work making well over 6 figures in a prestigious job vs. going to a top ranked business school. It's not like any decision will end badly.

12/23/11

bros if HBS prevents brady from offing himself because he hates his job and has no friends then let's just let him vent here. geez

In reply to Brady4MVP
12/23/11
Brady4MVP:

socially I don't have a lot of options due to my circumstances.

Would this have anything to do with every word coming out of your mouth being an acronym?

I'll say it again. Your obsession with business school is very unhealthy and it suggests to me that you're unhappy with how your life is playing out. Look, I'm sure business school is great, and would involve a significant amount of socialising but the fact that you're placing such a huge emphasis on it is frankly weird. Let's say you're 30 OK. I'm a whizzkid 26 year old, and I think I'm the shit. Do you think I want to socialise with you when your overeagerness is going to border on pathetic? God no. Most of these kids that you'll want to hang out with are going to be colossal douches, and the others will be hard-working family people, looking to further themselves and not loiter drunk at some bar come 3am.

Drop this fascination with business school. If you hate your job, move the fuck on. I hated my job, know what I did? I quit. And I found another job within 3 weeks. In fact I had three offers at one time. Business school could change your life, correct, but the rate you're going it could turn out to be the most expensive mistake you'll ever make. Face facts bro, if Harvard was meant to be, you'd be there by now.

In reply to whatwhatwhat
12/23/11
whatwhatwhat:

bros if HBS prevents brady from offing himself because he hates his job and has no friends then let's just let him vent here. geez

He's not venting though. He's making it worse for himself.

12/23/11
12/23/11

This has gotten out of hand

12/23/11

Brady, what would you do if you didn't get into HBS?

I am not cocky, I am confident, and when you tell me I am the best it is a compliment.
-Styles P

In reply to wolverine19x89
12/23/11
scottj19x89:

Brady is no longer serious, I've suspected that for a while, but I think it's confirmed now...

I don't know. He actually was pretty helpful in regards to answering questions about which programming languages to learn for S&T.

I am not cocky, I am confident, and when you tell me I am the best it is a compliment.
-Styles P

12/23/11

I've never heard someone so desperate to have a good time. $2,000 bar tab is less expensive than 2 years at HBS.

12/23/11

so as much as Brady combo-jerking off to HBS on this forum was / is overdone, everyone piling on and giving him shit for the same thing over and over again is pretty much doing the same. as others have said bradys given helpful advice to others on the site and at least is well connected enough to network with all these M7 kids. in the end he isnt hurting anyone at all-- and for the last couple of threads he hasnt really initiated any of the HBS fapchatting

ill agree he does get overtly excited at times about it and focuses a bit much but everyone piling on him is just as much as people making snarky troll comments on reddit

12/23/11

B-School is definitely not 2 years of vacation, especially if you are pursuing a financial career. Grades count in recruiting and people are wicked competitive. I just finished the core at an Ivy B-School and it was totally miserable. People are incredibly stressed, worried about finding 6 figure jobs, staying up all night cramming for finals. We rarely ever partied. We studied and traveled to meet with alums in order to find jobs. And I'm far from a nerd or a loser. I would love to go out every night but you can't afford to slack off.

I'm sure next year or even next semester will be more of a social scene. But don't fool yourselves. There is a ton of work to do and an incredible amount of pressure to find a job worthy of your school's ranking.

12/23/11

Slightly suspicious Brady is just elite trolling us with his HBS "obsession"

12/23/11

SDBall22, I don't want to sound like a jackass, but based on your use of the term "Ivy B-school," I'm pretty sure you're either at cornell or yale, in which case your description makes total sense. Once you go outside of the M7, getting a good finance job becomes extremely difficult. So you end up doing a lot of work, trying to impress recruiters with top grades, and networking your butt off to land interviews. At M7 and especially HSW, grades basically don't matter. Moreover, the top companies come to campus to recruit, thereby giving you ample opportunity to meet with them and get interviews much more easily. At the elite schools, students spend most of their time partying, socializing, and traveling. Yes, they work hard to get jobs, just like everyone else, but the pressure is not as nearly as intense.

This is why for me personally, anything below a M7 is not worth the cost. If I do go to b-school and drop that kind of cash, I want to party like a fucking rockstar for 2 years and leave with fond memories that will last me until the day I die.

In reply to Brady4MVP
12/24/11
Brady4MVP:

SDBall22, I don't want to sound like a jackass, but based on your use of the term "Ivy B-school," I'm pretty sure you're either at cornell or yale, in which case your description makes total sense. Once you go outside of the M7, getting a good finance job becomes extremely difficult. So you end up doing a lot of work, trying to impress recruiters with top grades, and networking your butt off to land interviews. At M7 and especially HSW, grades basically don't matter. Moreover, the top companies come to campus to recruit, thereby giving you ample opportunity to meet with them and get interviews much more easily. At the elite schools, students spend most of their time partying, socializing, and traveling. Yes, they work hard to get jobs, just like everyone else, but the pressure is not as nearly as intense.

This is why for me personally, anything below a M7 is not worth the cost. If I do go to b-school and drop that kind of cash, I want to party like a fucking rockstar for 2 years and leave with fond memories that will last me until the day I die.

I go to Yale SOM. Not only do we abide by a grade non-disclosure system, we don't have grades. Last year, we had almost an 100% internship placement rate. For instance, in terms of investment banking, we had 40 out of 230 kids getting investment banking internships and 30 at bulge bracket banks. This was one of, if not the, highest placement ratios among all top business schools. From talking to my friends at other top schools, I definitely though recruiting was relatively easier at Yale given our small class size and outsized alumni contributions.

In reply to SDBall22
12/24/11
SDBall22:

B-School is definitely not 2 years of vacation, especially if you are pursuing a financial career. Grades count in recruiting and people are wicked competitive. I just finished the core at an Ivy B-School and it was totally miserable. People are incredibly stressed, worried about finding 6 figure jobs, staying up all night cramming for finals. We rarely ever partied. We studied and traveled to meet with alums in order to find jobs. And I'm far from a nerd or a loser. I would love to go out every night but you can't afford to slack off.

I'm sure next year or even next semester will be more of a social scene. But don't fool yourselves. There is a ton of work to do and an incredible amount of pressure to find a job worthy of your school's ranking.

This is true. While B-School has been overall a very fun experience, academics are not by any means as easy as some people said (at least for me). I think ibanking recruiting is by far the most competitive one (but the one with the best success ratio, at least here). Grades do count in recruiting, maybe not as much as in undergrad but you have to be sure to do well in accounting and finance at least.

All said, it does provide chances for an unbelievable career change, especially for international students.

In reply to eokpar02
12/24/11
eokpar02:

Brady, what would you do if you didn't get into HBS?

If he doesn;t post a reaction video of himself as he's opening his email/letter of rejection, I will kill Brady.

12/24/11

but then itd turn into him fapping on cam :) do you wanna see that :P

In reply to Yale SOM Guy
12/24/11
Yale SOM Guy:

Not only do we abide by a grade non-disclosure system, we don't have grades.

I was speaking to someone the other night and he mentioned that at several (most?) top business schools schools their is some sort of non-disclosure policy in regards to grades and recruiting. Can anyone confirm this?

12/24/11

My best friend called last night. The guy is currently a first-year at a top 5 mba program, and he was telling me about his winter break thus far. His classmates went on a ski trip to colorado, where they got wasted and fucked like rabbits. In his words, "pretty much everyone has hooked up by now. It's really easy to get laid in b-school." Next, he went on a career trek in silicon valley, visiting start-up tech firms on the cutting edge. And now he is on his way to New Zeland.

Fucking SICK life. Can any non-mba folks on WSO beat that? I doubt it.

12/24/11

Congratulations to everyone who made it.

could you post a short generic profile about yourself though. i.e.

ungrad school/gpa:
gmat:
industry/work experience:
any extracurricular activities:

Would really appreciate it. Just wanna gauge my chances too.

Thanks and congrats again.

Wally!

In reply to Brady4MVP
12/24/11
Brady4MVP:

My best friend called last night. The guy is currently a first-year at a top 5 mba program, and he was telling me about his winter break thus far. His classmates went on a ski trip to colorado, where they got wasted and fucked like rabbits. In his words, "pretty much everyone has hooked up by now. It's really easy to get laid in b-school." Next, he went on a career trek in silicon valley, visiting start-up tech firms on the cutting edge. And now he is on his way to New Zeland.

Fucking SICK life. Can any non-mba folks on WSO beat that? I doubt it.

So they went to Colorado, went on a ski trip, got drunk and got laid? Wow, impressive.

In reply to Brady4MVP
12/24/11
Brady4MVP:

Fucking SICK life. Can any non-mba folks on WSO beat that? I doubt it.

If I didn't know any better I'd say you were in high school...

The answer to your question is 1) network 2) get involved 3) beef up your resume 4) repeat -happypantsmcgee

WSO is not your personal search function.

12/24/11

His classmates went on a ski trip to colorado, where they got wasted and fucked like rabbits.

Whom or what did they fuck? Each other or someone (or something) else? Or, did they get fucked?

12/24/11

Unless you like pounding Indian and Chinese girls, I would say the whole "fucking like rabbits" dream is dead on arrival. I've been to a bunch of Wharton parties and for every cute chick you have 5 haggard ones. Also, if you think type A B school chicks put out like Florida State sorority chicks you might be wrong.

Not saying B school isn't fun. My MSF was one of the best years of my life and I made a shit load of friends, but at the end of the day, school is school. You have to do well, interview, prep, etc. You are with kids who are highly driven and successful. They are not going to just roll up to interviews or classes wasted and say fuck it.

What I find funny is the fact that Brady could probably get himself a decent crew of finance guys who like to party right off this website, without two years of an MBA. Also, when I think of bad ass party MBA, I don't think of cold as balls Harvard. Go to Stanford dude and just crush Cali chicks. The weather will be nice year round and you have Cali girls to pick up. Harvard is amazing, but if you are going because you think you might be slaying Sullfolk University girls, I would reconsider.

12/24/11

ANT, no offense, but I wouldn't compare the 2-3 Villanova MSF girls to the talent at HYP

Winner Winner

12/24/11

No, nor would I. But I WOULD compare the undergrads. Either way, if you think Harvard UG's are dime pieces you must be smoking crack.

12/24/11

ANT, I respectfully disagree with your characterization of Wharton. I partied there last fall; it was a fucking blast. There actually aren't that many chinese and indian fob's who can't speak english. I have no idea where this stereotyping came from. The first-year class at Wharton is now 45% women, with lot of attracitve ones who worked in fashion/media/marketing, etc. And there's tons of latin americans and europeans to boot. The same goes for HBS, although their women ratio is only like 35%. I do know for a fact that there are several ex-models who are at HBS now.

Also, HBS guys do extremely well with the girls in boston. It's sort of a running joke among the guys there about how easy it is to slay chicks at schools like bu, bc, northeastern, wellesley, etc. As one friend put it, "it's so easy it's like shooting fish in a barrel."

12/24/11

Well I suppose we had different experiences. I didn't say everyone was haggard, just saying B school isn't this cornucopia of tri delts to smash.

Look at Stanford. Much better scene IMO.

12/24/11

Brady, dog, you telling me dropping the HBS bomb makes getting laid easier than saying "I work in a hedge fund"?

You just need some bros man, what city you in?

12/24/11

ANT, you're presupposing that mba guys are only limited to girls in their class, which is patently false. At Penn, for instance, the wharton mba guys are like demi-gods on campus. The girls in penn undergrad, nursing, law, med, are obsessed with getting with a Wharton mba bro. HBS is a bit different since their campus is in boston, not cambridge. Nonetheless, the HBS guys also do quite well with those in other harvard schools, and as i mentioned before, they are very popular among the non-harvard students in boston. The stories i've heard are pretty wild.

And yes, dropping the HBS bomb is much more powerful than telling a chick that you work at a hedge fund. I mean, is this a serious question? For one, lot of hot girls don't even know what a hedge fund is. But I will bet my life that they do know harvard fucking business school. The Harvard name brand is one of the most prestigious and highly recognized names in the entire world. And second, there are thousands of hedge funds out there, the vast majority of which are awful. That's a tangential point, however.

I live in Chicago. It's a great city, and my social life is quite decent, but it pales in comparison to what my friends at top b-schools are experiencing.

12/24/11

N.R.G., they fucked their classmates.

12/24/11

N.R.G., they fucked their classmates.

Thanks, Brady.

12/24/11
12/24/11

I'm gonna have to call B.S. on this hyped up social scene Brady is talking about. The partying/hook up scene is unrivaled? WTF...what about undergrad. I have a hard time believing that the kids at bschool are going to be partying more than they did in college.

Anyway-I have a friend at HBS and she has echoed an opinion I've heard multiple times-the social scene is more upper echelon and ritzy, with expensive ski trips and travel across the world (she has a hard time keeping up). Makes sense considering a lot of students have saved a decent amount of $, and I'm sure the international kids can tap into their parents funds. But I wouldn't be calling it "Animal House" by any means.

Anyway-we made a HBS 2+2 group for newly admitted students (class or 2016). Come join us if you haven't already-just pm me and I'll send you the link. Happy Holidays everyone !

12/24/11

I'm calling BS too. First of all, 90% of the guys in B school either have families, are bookworms or are just nerds that have no idea how to party. Second, most girls in B school are not even close to being attractive. The ones that are attractive most likely have a boyfriend or fiancee. Hot girls in their mid- to late-twenties don't stay single forever.

Party like a rockstar? There are no rockstars in business school. There are business school students in business school. It is completely different from undergrad. It is completely different from living in a major city in your early twenties with a good job and no other responsibilities.

In reply to Ravena
12/24/11
Sean518:
Yale SOM Guy:

Not only do we abide by a grade non-disclosure system, we don't have grades.

I was speaking to someone the other night and he mentioned that at several (most?) top business schools schools their is some sort of non-disclosure policy in regards to grades and recruiting. Can anyone confirm this?

- GSB Stanford has a non-disclosure policy
- Wharton does as well, albeit not enforced by the school but rather the student body http://employer.wharton.upenn.edu/recruiting/inter...
- Yale has the same policy
- Booth does as well http://student.chicagobooth.edu/group/gbc/gnd.htm
- HBS used to, but reversed their position three years ago http://www.alumni.hbs.edu/bulletin/2006/march/ib_d...
- Columbia does not have NDP ... supports grade disclosure
- Tuck does not have NDP ... supports grade disclosure
- MIT Sloan does not have NDP ... supports grade disclosure

For an MBA's perspective on it, read this blog entry from a Booth graduate. http://tombaornot.blogspot.com/2008/04/on-grade-no...

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In reply to solb22
12/24/11
solb22:

I'm gonna have to call B.S. on this hyped up social scene Brady is talking about. The partying/hook up scene is unrivaled? WTF...what about undergrad. I have a hard time believing that the kids at bschool are going to be partying more than they did in college.

Anyway-I have a friend at HBS and she has echoed an opinion I've heard multiple times-the social scene is more upper echelon and ritzy, with expensive ski trips and travel across the world (she has a hard time keeping up). Makes sense considering a lot of students have saved a decent amount of $, and I'm sure the international kids can tap into their parents funds. But I wouldn't be calling it "Animal House" by any means.

Anyway-we made a HBS 2+2 group for newly admitted students (class or 2016). Come join us if you haven't already-just pm me and I'll send you the link. Happy Holidays everyone !

Yes. That's the social scene I want: upscale and ritzy. I'm too old to just drink beer and playing beer pong. Plus that gets very boring.

12/24/11

brady wants to dunk his balls in a girls mouth, not in no wata cup. yhearddddddddddddddd

12/24/11

and btw columbia dropped grade disclosure as well

12/24/11

School: Grade Non-Disclosure?
Harvard: No
Stanford: Yes
Booth: Yes
Wharton: No
Columbia: Yes
Tuck: No
Kellogg: No
Sloan: No
Haas: Yes
Fuqua: No
Darden: No
Stern: No
Ross: No
Yale: Yes
Johnson: No
Tepper: Yes
Anderson: No
Kenan-Flagler: No
Goizueta: No

In reply to Brady4MVP
12/25/11
Brady4MVP:

My best friend called last night. The guy is currently a first-year at a top 5 mba program, and he was telling me about his winter break thus far. His classmates went on a ski trip to colorado, where they got wasted and fucked like rabbits. In his words, "pretty much everyone has hooked up by now. It's really easy to get laid in b-school." Next, he went on a career trek in silicon valley, visiting start-up tech firms on the cutting edge. And now he is on his way to New Zeland.

Fucking SICK life. Can any non-mba folks on WSO beat that? I doubt it.

Sounds like this trip is very common
http://mbablogs.anderson.ucla.edu/mba_students/201...

Or does your friend actually go to ucla?

In reply to pingafrita
12/25/11
Brady4MVP:

My best friend called last night. The guy is currently a first-year at a top 5 mba program, and he was telling me about his winter break thus far. His classmates went on a ski trip to colorado, where they got wasted and fucked like rabbits. In his words, "pretty much everyone has hooked up by now. It's really easy to get laid in b-school." Next, he went on a career trek in silicon valley, visiting start-up tech firms on the cutting edge. And now he is on his way to New Zeland.

Fucking SICK life. Can any non-mba folks on WSO beat that? I doubt it.

Ahahahahaha.

Brady> real talk, are you a virgin?

12/25/11

I'm going to take the bait...

You are selling yourself short
Yes B-School will have prettier girls than your hedge fund, but that's the wrong benchmark. Also, you might be just another smart kid at your fund, but you are currently probably in the top 5% of 20 somethings in the US. Are you taking advantage of that?

Go beyond your social circle
- Finance is male dominated and there are even fewer pretty girls at hedge funds than in banking.
- Don't limit yourself to the best restaurants, exclusive golf clubs and other status oriented professional hang outs. The only single 25 year olds you meet there are guys. If clubs aren't your thing, go to an art event or something.
- The number AND quality of women the further you get away from finance is quite astonishing. Date someone without an ivy league education (or no degree at all), you'll learn a lot and will mature as a man.

Life is short
- Don't piss away your 20s waiting for b-school to start having fun. No amount of carried interest or prestige will bring these years back.
- You need to learn how to have a fulfilling lifestyle now, otherwise, what are you going to do post-MBA?

Also, congratulations to the b-school admits.

Accepted.com
12/25/11

Pingafrita: no, my friend is not at UCLA. As I said, he's at a top 5 program.

Relinquis: thanks for the thoughtful comments. I've read your other posts, and you're quickly becoming one of the top posters on WSO. Without delving into too much details, I had a hard time socially post-college due to a number of reasons. Lately, however, I have been going out more, attending networking events, and trying to be more active socially. Although I'm happier now than I was say 3 years ago, I still don't think there's anything I can do now that will come close to b-school in terms of excitement and fun. B-school is such a unique environment, with a plethora of activities and opportunities, that it's not something one can replicate while living in a big city as a working professional.

Baddebt88: no, I'm not a virgin.

12/25/11

shorttheworld: I'm like 99% sure that wharton has grade non-disclosure. Where'd you get this info?

12/25/11

Seedy underbelly: Penn is my alma mater, bro. So yes, I know exactly what I'm talking about. The Wharton MBA's were revered and envied on campus. And I have partied there several times in recent years while visiting friends.

The med school is more "prestigious" on the academic scale, but those guys are dorks who almost never go out. And law kids are utter douches. So the wharton mba guys just absolutely clean up with the girls at Penn, and they are seen as the alpha males on campus.

You should go down to philly and check out a wharton party. It's pretty fucking awesome.

In reply to Brady4MVP
12/25/11
Brady4MVP:

ANT, you're presupposing that mba guys are only limited to girls in their class, which is patently false. At Penn, for instance, the wharton mba guys are like demi-gods on campus. The girls in penn undergrad, nursing, law, med, are obsessed with getting with a Wharton mba bro.

Um, have you even been to Penn?! Honestly, that is just utter BS. Wharton MBAs don't get half as much respect on campus as Wharton and College undergrads.

yesman:

In case you haven't realized this yet, Wharton MBA students are the biggest fucking morons on Penn's campus. They're there to re-live high school.

http://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/why-the-fuck...

On top of this, there is a creepy factor associated with the Wharton MBAs. Generally, undergrads at Penn have very little respect for the grad/professional students. It sounds ridiculous, but that's how it is. The MBAs/JDs are considered to be the lazy, stupid people who couldn't get into Penn undergrad, and are now there to make up for it.

I can assure you, very few Penn undergrad girls will be hooking up with Wharton MBAs.

And, yes, I know Penn is your alma mater.

In reply to Brady4MVP
12/25/11
Brady4MVP:

Seedy underbelly: Penn is my alma mater, bro. So yes, I know exactly what I'm talking about. The Wharton MBA's were revered and envied on campus. And I have partied there several times in recent years while visiting friends.

The med school is more "prestigious" on the academic scale, but those guys are dorks who almost never go out. And law kids are utter douches. So the wharton mba guys just absolutely clean up with the girls at Penn, and they are seen as the alpha males on campus.

You should go down to philly and check out a wharton party. It's pretty fucking awesome.

LOL. This is not true at all. If there are "alpha males" on campus, they are most certainly the M&T undergrad athletes. Girls love them.

Also, as I'm sure you know, Wharton MBA doesn't hold a candle to Wharton undergrad. And as I'm sure you've seen from WhartonConnect, the vast majority of grads one would want to reach out to, were W undergrads.

In reply to seedy underbelly
12/25/11
seedy underbelly:
Brady4MVP:

Seedy underbelly: Penn is my alma mater, bro. So yes, I know exactly what I'm talking about. The Wharton MBA's were revered and envied on campus. And I have partied there several times in recent years while visiting friends.

The med school is more "prestigious" on the academic scale, but those guys are dorks who almost never go out. And law kids are utter douches. So the wharton mba guys just absolutely clean up with the girls at Penn, and they are seen as the alpha males on campus.

You should go down to philly and check out a wharton party. It's pretty fucking awesome.

LOL. This is not true at all. If there are "alpha males" on campus, they are most certainly the M&T undergrad athletes. Girls love them.

Also, as I'm sure you know, Wharton MBA doesn't hold a candle to Wharton undergrad. And as I'm sure you've seen from WhartonConnect, the vast majority of grads one would want to reach out to, were W undergrads.

Wrong. The m&t kids are smarter for sure, but in terms of social clout and who the girls want to party with and fuck, the mba guys win out easily.

I find it hilarious that a columbia undergrad claims to know more about my alma mater than me.

In reply to Brady4MVP
12/25/11
Brady4MVP:

I find it hilarious that a columbia undergrad claims to know more about my alma mater than me.

Ok. ;)

12/25/11

Who the fuck cares how many girls Wharton MBA students get? If you want to pay +$160k to get a choice of girls, that's your business. Most sane people would probably go to a local student bar and make conversation. Bro, prestige and pedigree doesnt matter to every fucking girl out there. And, I dont know if you're referring to Penn law students as douches or law students in general, but I find it comical that after all these posts and debates, you have the nerve to refer to someone else as a douche. And I was a law student.

12/25/11

FinancialNoviceII: what's up with the straw men? I never said one should spend $160K just to get girls. The number one reason to go to b-school is for one's professional goals. The social stuff is secondary to that but is an important factor.

Girls care about prestige, but different girls define it differently. At most state colleges for instance, they want the guy who's in a "prestigious" frat or on the football team since that's how status is determined. At an elite school like Penn or Harvard, which attract ambitious smart people, a guy at wharton mba or hbs will have enormous social clout.

12/25/11

Morons like this are exactly why I am trying full capacity to get my next degree outside of the country.

12/25/11

You work in finance in Chicago, probably make some good money, what's the issue with picking up chicks? Why do you need to be at a business school to get girls? As echoed in earlier posts, in speaking with colleagues that have been to b-school, the good looking girls are few and far between, and those that are hot are usually tied down (quite frankly, if you can't pick up a babe at the bars now, what makes you think you'll get a hot chick at school? You probably look like a troll, and it sounds like you commit social suicide every time you open your mouth). Good luck rolling into BU, Northeastern, BC or Harvard undergrad parties as a not-so-hot 28 year old - that only works if you're a stud. Young girls might be slightly impressed by your Harvard MBA status, but at the ages of 18-22, chicks aren't quite desperate enough - they're still looking for a fine piece of meat, and it doesn't sound like you're going to be providing that.

12/25/11

Also, you're looking for an upscale, ritzy party environment but want to pull local college girls from the undergrad party scene? You realize that's a major contradiction, no?

In reply to seedy underbelly
12/25/11
seedy underbelly:
yesman:

In case you haven't realized this yet, Wharton MBA students are the biggest fucking morons on Penn's campus. They're there to re-live high school.

http://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/why-the-fuck...

From that thread:

Brady4MVP:

First of all, this is a very sample size. You do realize that wharton MBA has 800 students in each class? Just like any other top program, you will have mediocre people who somehow managed to get in, and some superstars as well. And wharton MBA has LOTS of finance superstars.

Moreover, b-school is like a 2-year party, the best time of your life. There's social events and parties almost every day, tons of networking, and lots of travelling to cool places.

LOL @ brady talking about small sample sizes and then projecting what he feels is the HARVARD BUSINESS SCHOOL MBA EXPERIENCE (TM) on this board

12/25/11

jimbrowngoU, the problem is not that i can't meet girls. The issue is that i'm having a hard time meeting smart attractive women who are also single. In Chicago basically every high-quality woman over the age of 25 is taken. Now, I agree that b-school has a bad ratio (although wharton is now 45% women, and other schools are improving in that aspect). But there are just a lot of opportunities available for single men, through numerous interactions in the classroom, various clubs, social events, etc. And as I said before, the MBA guys can always branch out into other schools at their university.

12/25/11

why is everyone warring with brady on christmas lol

must all be italians/latins who celebrate the day before or jews :P

12/25/11

Brady threads are so entertaining. Poster of 2011 for sure.

In reply to Brady4MVP
12/25/11
Brady4MVP:

FinancialNoviceII: what's up with the straw men? I never said one should spend $160K just to get girls. The number one reason to go to b-school is for one's professional goals. The social stuff is secondary to that but is an important factor.

Girls care about prestige, but different girls define it differently. At most state colleges for instance, they want the guy who's in a "prestigious" frat or on the football team since that's how status is determined. At an elite school like Penn or Harvard, which attract ambitious smart people, a guy at wharton mba or hbs will have enormous social clout.

Alright, you didnt say it explicitly but from your argument, its inferred. I don't believe women, who are in those schools themselves, are falling on their backs, with their legs open, just at the mere sound of someone saying HBS or Wharton. Granted there are different girls out there, but as you say the top schools attract ambitious, smart, responsible people. Yes, HBS students have clout, but I think its premature to brand them as having any more social clout then a Harvard undergrad. Social clout is a subjective thing. I have friends from Oxford, a prestigious name, who have the name but no social skills, so guess what? They get hardly any action.

Simply, the social clout you refer to is gradually exaggerated. Either because
1) The person with the clout has no interest in it (as they are married, or more mature to pass on the college scene
2) They don't know how to use it.

Sorry to rag on you all the time but your conclusions and justifications for business school are misinformed.

12/26/11

21 year old girls don't want to hook up with a guy who is 25, 26, 27 or older. Do you realize how old that is to a college girl? It is a completely different world and a completely different planet to them.

Brady, I can probably guess your hometown in three attempts. Does it rhyme with Swellesley, Beston or Rewton? If not, then it's probably in that area.

12/26/11

If you have to go to Biz school to pick up chicks you are a fucking troll looking loser.

/ thread

12/26/11

txjustin, once again you completely miss the point.

12/26/11

I wasn't attacking you bro, sorry if you took it as such.

I understand the point. I think if that's a route you're gonna take then it is a potentially great one. Just quit saying it's nonstop partying and travelling. I also have friends in biz school and they say the 1st year is pretty intense and you keep busy with the workload.

12/26/11

txjustin, I'm guessing your friends are not at a M7 b-school because my buddies at M7 are barely doing any work aside from preparing for interviews. All they do is party and travel.

12/26/11

For the love of God, just shut up Brady.

Just shut up.

If your dreams don't scare you, then they are not big enough.

"There are two types of people in this world: People who say they pee in the shower, and dirty fucking liars."-Louis C.K.

In reply to Brady4MVP
12/26/11
Brady4MVP:

txjustin, I'm guessing your friends are not at a M7 b-school because my buddies at M7 are barely doing any work aside from preparing for interviews. All they do is party and travel.

There is still a heavy courseload at HBS. Cases (and the material is a LOT) don't read themselves. Of course if one is efficient with their time, there's no reason why they can't go partying a lot during their time there ... but this is no different to undergrad.

If you're the kinda person who needs to strive all year round to get decent grades, then you probably won't like HBS that much either. If you imagine the type of people who get HBS or other top B school admissions (top academics, work experiences, and social lives at school, followed by strong performance at work and significant extra curricular achievements at the same time), then it isn't difficult to imagine that these people can easily manage a heavy course load while having a hell of a time in B School. If this was not you before B School, it won't be you at B School either.

You're focusing too much on WHAT experiences people at the top schools have while ignoring WHY they can handle it all.

12/26/11

This is hands down the gayest thread I have ever read on WSO.

It sounds like the pipe dreams of IBD analysts who are mad that they have no life and are looking for the light at the end of the tunnel. It literally has me laughing at the absurdity.

Undergrad athletes get less than B-school students? hahahahahahaha

Girls at an Ivy being attractive?

Wtf is this? lol

Reality hits you hard, bro...

12/26/11

MMBinNC, lol. You have no idea what you're talking about, bro.

In reply to Brady4MVP
12/26/11
Brady4MVP:

txjustin, I'm guessing your friends are not at a M7 b-school because my buddies at M7 are barely doing any work aside from preparing for interviews. All they do is party and travel.

One is at Booth.

In reply to MMBinNC
12/26/11
MMBinNC:

This is hands down the gayest thread I have ever read on WSO.

It sounds like the pipe dreams of IBD analysts who are mad that they have no life and are looking for the light at the end of the tunnel. It literally has me laughing at the absurdity.

Undergrad athletes get less than B-school students? hahahahahahaha

Girls at an Ivy being attractive?

Wtf is this? lol

^ Spot on. M&T undergrad athletes at Penn get more action than anyone else I know

And Brady, dude, I know a guy just like you (one of my brother's friends from his days at Penn), so I kinda get why you're putting HBS on a pedestal the way you are. But, seriously, you sound like an idiot, so stop.

In reply to seedy underbelly
12/26/11
seedy underbelly:
MMBinNC:

This is hands down the gayest thread I have ever read on WSO.

It sounds like the pipe dreams of IBD analysts who are mad that they have no life and are looking for the light at the end of the tunnel. It literally has me laughing at the absurdity.

Undergrad athletes get less than B-school students? hahahahahahaha

Girls at an Ivy being attractive?

Wtf is this? lol

^ Spot on. M&T undergrad athletes at Penn get more action than anyone else I know

And Brady, dude, I know a guy just like you (one of my brother's friends from his days at Penn), so I kinda get why you're putting HBS on a pedestal the way you are. But, seriously, you sound like an idiot, so stop.

Get your head out of your ass, kid. You're a columbia undergrad who purports to know more about Penn than an actual alum. When you're old enough, you should go down to penn and check out some wharton mba parties. You'll know what i'm talking about.

12/26/11

After reading through this thread, I feel much better about making it a point to party on the weekends during college (and also on Thursday nights during my senior year). It was a lot of fun, and now that I'm working, I know it was well worth it. Now I party even harder on the weekends because I have money. I really think that those that don't socialize are just holding themselves back from it. They have the time, but feel the need to refrain from partying because it doesn't directly contribute to their financial success. Let me tell you, I think it does because it relieves stress and teaches you a lot of things you can't learn in school/ on the job.

MKballer

In reply to MMBinNC
12/26/11
MMBinNC:

Undergrad athletes get less than B-school students? hahahahahahaha

This right here is when I knew this thread was a troll thread. There is not a single campus in the USA where the athletes don't get the most ass in school. This includes all girl schools.

The answer to your question is 1) network 2) get involved 3) beef up your resume 4) repeat -happypantsmcgee

WSO is not your personal search function.

12/27/11

Brady: Getting an MBA at Harvard/UPenn/whatever won't change the fact that you're unattractive, socially awkward, and have no "game". How much pussy did you get in undergrad at Penn? If you think that being in the MBA class will change that, then you're delusional and need to brace yourself for the harsh reality that girls don't fuck guys who aren't attractive (I'm not talking just from a physical perspective). Even if you somehow manage to land that one at best moderately attractive goldigger retard, there is another guy out there who graduated from bumblefuck college and is slaying hotter girls than you on a daily basis. Why? Because he knows what girls want. No amount of academic prestige is going to make an unattractive loser turn attractive. You remind me of this guy

The fact that you're getting a boner over a god-damn ski trip shows how pathetic your life is and has been up to this point. You definitely don't need a Harvard MBA to do that shit. It's called "having friends".

Serious question: are you a virgin? if not, have you slept with more than 3 girls?

In reply to Brady4MVP
12/27/11
Brady4MVP:

My best friend called last night. The guy is currently a first-year at a top 5 mba program, and he was telling me about his winter break thus far. His classmates went on a ski trip to colorado, where they got wasted and fucked like rabbits. In his words, "pretty much everyone has hooked up by now. It's really easy to get laid in b-school." Next, he went on a career trek in silicon valley, visiting start-up tech firms on the cutting edge. And now he is on his way to New Zeland.

Fucking SICK life. Can any non-mba folks on WSO beat that? I doubt it.

lol sounds exactly like my college career you phaggot. Brb just spent a semester getting hammed and getting chicks in Italy/Prague/Barcelona. Gonna spend NYE in the city getting hammed and probably (hopefully at least) getting with chicks. Then going to frat parties all next semester getting hammed and getting chicks.

This dbag brady sounds like an absolute loser who has never had fun in his life, and now is getting his little panties wet at the excitement of touching a girls vajayjay.

You can make all the money you want, but if you're a loser then no one will want to hang out with you. Stop taking your loneliness out on an internet forum.

12/27/11
In reply to Faddy
12/27/11
Faddy:
Brady4MVP:

My best friend called last night. The guy is currently a first-year at a top 5 mba program, and he was telling me about his winter break thus far. His classmates went on a ski trip to colorado, where they got wasted and fucked like rabbits. In his words, "pretty much everyone has hooked up by now. It's really easy to get laid in b-school." Next, he went on a career trek in silicon valley, visiting start-up tech firms on the cutting edge. And now he is on his way to New Zeland.

Fucking SICK life. Can any non-mba folks on WSO beat that? I doubt it.

lol sounds exactly like my college career you phaggot. Brb just spent a semester getting hammed and getting chicks in Italy/Prague/Barcelona. Gonna spend NYE in the city getting hammed and probably (hopefully at least) getting with chicks. Then going to frat parties all next semester getting hammed and getting chicks.

This dbag brady sounds like an absolute loser who has never had fun in his life, and now is getting his little panties wet at the excitement of touching a girls vajayjay.

You can make all the money you want, but if you're a loser then no one will want to hang out with you. Stop taking your loneliness out on an internet forum.

Faddy you're in high school...please calm down. Stop listing cities you googled. "vajayjay" are you a woman, my xgf said that shit.

The answer to your question is 1) network 2) get involved 3) beef up your resume 4) repeat -happypantsmcgee

WSO is not your personal search function.

12/27/11

I'm laughing at people saying B-school will be the best time of their lives. Ever heard of undergrad? What were you guys doing, studying in the library on weekends?! My college experience was sick and I feel bad for anyone who didn't get to "live it up" because they were so focused on getting a 4.0. If you're praying that B school will be the end all social experience, it probably means that you lack the social skills to have appreciated your FIRST college experience. If so, I feel bad for you. Live life uninhibited for once.

In reply to bfin
12/27/11
blackfinancier:
Faddy:
Brady4MVP:

My best friend called last night. The guy is currently a first-year at a top 5 mba program, and he was telling me about his winter break thus far. His classmates went on a ski trip to colorado, where they got wasted and fucked like rabbits. In his words, "pretty much everyone has hooked up by now. It's really easy to get laid in b-school." Next, he went on a career trek in silicon valley, visiting start-up tech firms on the cutting edge. And now he is on his way to New Zeland.

Fucking SICK life. Can any non-mba folks on WSO beat that? I doubt it.

lol sounds exactly like my college career you phaggot. Brb just spent a semester getting hammed and getting chicks in Italy/Prague/Barcelona. Gonna spend NYE in the city getting hammed and probably (hopefully at least) getting with chicks. Then going to frat parties all next semester getting hammed and getting chicks.

This dbag brady sounds like an absolute loser who has never had fun in his life, and now is getting his little panties wet at the excitement of touching a girls vajayjay.

You can make all the money you want, but if you're a loser then no one will want to hang out with you. Stop taking your loneliness out on an internet forum.

Faddy you're in high school...please calm down. Stop listing cities you googled. "vajayjay" are you a woman, my xgf said that shit.

u mad?

In reply to JDawg
12/27/11
JDawg:

Brady: Getting an MBA at Harvard/UPenn/whatever won't change the fact that you're unattractive, socially awkward, and have no "game". How much pussy did you get in undergrad at Penn? If you think that being in the MBA class will change that, then you're delusional and need to brace yourself for the harsh reality that girls don't fuck guys who aren't attractive (I'm not talking just from a physical perspective). Even if you somehow manage to land that one at best moderately attractive goldigger retard, there is another guy out there who graduated from bumblefuck college and is slaying hotter girls than you on a daily basis. Why? Because he knows what girls want. No amount of academic prestige is going to make an unattractive loser turn attractive. You remind me of this guy

The fact that you're getting a boner over a god-damn ski trip shows how pathetic your life is and has been up to this point. You definitely don't need a Harvard MBA to do that shit. It's called "having friends".

Serious question: are you a virgin? if not, have you slept with more than 3 girls?

JDawg, it seems like you're still stuck in the college mode of looking at the world, where the loud-mouthed fratguy gets all the chicks. Reality is a bit different once you're out of college and in the real world. How do you explain my friends at hbs and wharton (average looking guys) who get tons of girls? Women love successful men; you're only lying to yourself if you believe otherwise. And yes, prestige and pedigree play a critical role in shaping a man's social confidence.

In reply to Faddy
12/27/11
Faddy:
Brady4MVP:

My best friend called last night. The guy is currently a first-year at a top 5 mba program, and he was telling me about his winter break thus far. His classmates went on a ski trip to colorado, where they got wasted and fucked like rabbits. In his words, "pretty much everyone has hooked up by now. It's really easy to get laid in b-school." Next, he went on a career trek in silicon valley, visiting start-up tech firms on the cutting edge. And now he is on his way to New Zeland.

Fucking SICK life. Can any non-mba folks on WSO beat that? I doubt it.

lol sounds exactly like my college career you phaggot. Brb just spent a semester getting hammed and getting chicks in Italy/Prague/Barcelona. Gonna spend NYE in the city getting hammed and probably (hopefully at least) getting with chicks. Then going to frat parties all next semester getting hammed and getting chicks.

This dbag brady sounds like an absolute loser who has never had fun in his life, and now is getting his little panties wet at the excitement of touching a girls vajayjay.

You can make all the money you want, but if you're a loser then no one will want to hang out with you. Stop taking your loneliness out on an internet forum.

How old are you kid, 17?

12/27/11
Whgm45:

I'm laughing at people saying B-school will be the best time of their lives. Ever heard of undergrad? What were you guys doing, studying in the library on weekends?! My college experience was sick and I feel bad for anyone who didn't get to "live it up" because they were so focused on getting a 4.0. If you're praying that B school will be the end all social experience, it probably means that you lack the social skills to have appreciated your FIRST college experience. If so, I feel bad for you. Live life uninhibited for once.

this is exactly right. Blackfinancier never got the memo

In reply to Brady4MVP
12/27/11
Brady4MVP:
Faddy:
Brady4MVP:

My best friend called last night. The guy is currently a first-year at a top 5 mba program, and he was telling me about his winter break thus far. His classmates went on a ski trip to colorado, where they got wasted and fucked like rabbits. In his words, "pretty much everyone has hooked up by now. It's really easy to get laid in b-school." Next, he went on a career trek in silicon valley, visiting start-up tech firms on the cutting edge. And now he is on his way to New Zeland.

Fucking SICK life. Can any non-mba folks on WSO beat that? I doubt it.

lol sounds exactly like my college career you phaggot. Brb just spent a semester getting hammed and getting chicks in Italy/Prague/Barcelona. Gonna spend NYE in the city getting hammed and probably (hopefully at least) getting with chicks. Then going to frat parties all next semester getting hammed and getting chicks.

This dbag brady sounds like an absolute loser who has never had fun in his life, and now is getting his little panties wet at the excitement of touching a girls vajayjay.

You can make all the money you want, but if you're a loser then no one will want to hang out with you. Stop taking your loneliness out on an internet forum.

How old are you kid, 17?

old enough to know that grad school will not be the best time of my life. Old enough to have had fun in college. Old enough to not have to brag on an internet forum about what grad school I got into.

12/27/11

Brady - When are you applying dude? I think you need to get out of Chi town and move back east coast. And when you get here let me know because I really want to see some of these bangin' MBA chicks. I've been to parties at Public House, Pulse and house parties with Wharton people and make I was out with the B list crew because I didn't see an utter bevy of models and hot chicks.

I agree that B school is awesome and you can get laid all the time, but that is a function of having 2 years off and a crew of guys looking to blow off steam. Not sure how much the "I am a Harvard MBA" will get you laid though. Honestly, why not just lie to women now and tell them you at Chicago or Wharton. I mean any chick that would bang you because you go to those schools is stupid enough to fall for a lie.

In reply to TNA
12/27/11
ANT:

Brady - When are you applying dude? I think you need to get out of Chi town and move back east coast. And when you get here let me know because I really want to see some of these bangin' MBA chicks. I've been to parties at Public House, Pulse and house parties with Wharton people and make I was out with the B list crew because I didn't see an utter bevy of models and hot chicks.

I agree that B school is awesome and you can get laid all the time, but that is a function of having 2 years off and a crew of guys looking to blow off steam. Not sure how much the "I am a Harvard MBA" will get you laid though. Honestly, why not just lie to women now and tell them you at Chicago or Wharton. I mean any chick that would bang you because you go to those schools is stupid enough to fall for a lie.

ANT, I'm going to be applying next fall. My friends were pressuring me to do it this year, but I felt that I wasn't ready yet. Still beefing up my extracurriculars and other aspects of my resume.

I'm not going to say that wharton is filled with "models." But the girls there are a lot hotter than you would think. The first year-class this year at wharton and also HBS have quite a few lookers, and yes, there's rampant hooking up. The great thing about being an MBA student at an elite school is that you're at the top of the totem pole at your university, hence giving you easy access to girls at all the other programs.

Chicago is great, minus the weather. The problem is that I moved here without knowing anyone, and although I've made a few good friends, Chicago's social scene is very cliquish. Basically if you're not from the midwest and/or went to a big 10 college, it's going to be hard finding your place. So b-school will be a great time to exponentially expand my social network.

12/27/11

Yeah, I understand what you mean about cliquish cities. Sucks. Have you given serious thought to Columbia? Might be a better choice since you not only have the university, but all of NYC to prey on. From my experience NYC is much more open than say Boston/Philadelphia.

Side note. At Wharton they have a thing where all the single men and women mark who they like or would hook up with. Then, when spring or fall trips are being planned, the people who marked that they would hook up with XYZ are put on the same trips, basically ensuring a "good" time. ha.

In reply to TNA
12/27/11
ANT:

Yeah, I understand what you mean about cliquish cities. Sucks. Have you given serious thought to Columbia? Might be a better choice since you not only have the university, but all of NYC to prey on. From my experience NYC is much more open than say Boston/Philadelphia.

Side note. At Wharton they have a thing where all the single men and women mark who they like or would hook up with. Then, when spring or fall trips are being planned, the people who marked that they would hook up with XYZ are put on the same trips, basically ensuring a "good" time. ha.

The Chicago social scene is awful for outsiders, in my opinion. All my good friends here are also transplants. I just don't quite click with the typical big 10 frat boys.

Yes, I'm definitely applying to columbia and will probably visit next spring or so. If I really like it I might apply early decision.

Didn't know that about Wharton, but I'm not too surprised. The social scene there is absolutely sick. I know for a fact that I will be slaying tons of chicks at a top b-school.

12/27/11

"Slaying tons of chicks" doesn't equate to "slaying tons of hot chicks." I'm probably applying next fall as well, and I am friends/work with quite a few people that have gone to M7s (Columbia, MIT, HBS, Tuck, Kellogg), and we've gone through this ad nauseum - not sure if it's the dude-to-chick ratio, or single guys becoming more desperate, but the "hot" chicks at MBAs are not hot in the real world. Sure, there will be some decent looking chicks, but what those decent looking chicks become hot due to their relative appearance (and eagerness of guys like you who want to fuck anything that walks). We've done Facebook lookups on the "hottest" girls that were in their classes at the schools listed above, and I saw less than a handful of legit smokes - and naturally, they're only hooking up with the best looking guys in the class. So unless you're a top 5% in the looks category (and you carry yourself socially a whole lot different than you have in this thread), good fuckin' luck.

In reply to Faddy
12/27/11
Faddy:
Brady4MVP:

My best friend called last night. The guy is currently a first-year at a top 5 mba program, and he was telling me about his winter break thus far. His classmates went on a ski trip to colorado, where they got wasted and fucked like rabbits. In his words, "pretty much everyone has hooked up by now. It's really easy to get laid in b-school." Next, he went on a career trek in silicon valley, visiting start-up tech firms on the cutting edge. And now he is on his way to New Zeland.

Fucking SICK life. Can any non-mba folks on WSO beat that? I doubt it.

lol sounds exactly like my college career you phaggot. Brb just spent a semester getting hammed and getting chicks in Italy/Prague/Barcelona. Gonna spend NYE in the city getting hammed and probably (hopefully at least) getting with chicks. Then going to frat parties all next semester getting hammed and getting chicks.

This dbag brady sounds like an absolute loser who has never had fun in his life, and now is getting his little panties wet at the excitement of touching a girls vajayjay.

You can make all the money you want, but if you're a loser then no one will want to hang out with you. Stop taking your loneliness out on an internet forum.

Holy shit, this absolutely killed me. Funniest shit I've read in a while.

In reply to TheKing
12/27/11
TheKing:
Faddy:
Brady4MVP:

My best friend called last night. The guy is currently a first-year at a top 5 mba program, and he was telling me about his winter break thus far. His classmates went on a ski trip to colorado, where they got wasted and fucked like rabbits. In his words, "pretty much everyone has hooked up by now. It's really easy to get laid in b-school." Next, he went on a career trek in silicon valley, visiting start-up tech firms on the cutting edge. And now he is on his way to New Zeland.

Fucking SICK life. Can any non-mba folks on WSO beat that? I doubt it.

lol sounds exactly like my college career you phaggot. Brb just spent a semester getting hammed and getting chicks in Italy/Prague/Barcelona. Gonna spend NYE in the city getting hammed and probably (hopefully at least) getting with chicks. Then going to frat parties all next semester getting hammed and getting chicks.

This dbag brady sounds like an absolute loser who has never had fun in his life, and now is getting his little panties wet at the excitement of touching a girls vajayjay.

You can make all the money you want, but if you're a loser then no one will want to hang out with you. Stop taking your loneliness out on an internet forum.

Holy shit, this absolutely killed me. Funniest shit I've read in a while.

Yeah, I laughed too. It's always amusing to read posts by high school kids who have no idea what they're talking about.

12/27/11

A bit of Psychology-101 analysis, if I may (when else will this class come in useful?):

Brady developed his inferiority complex at Penn around the M&T/Huntsman kids, and now believes his only way of 'topping' them is making it to HBS (a program that he has consistently placed on a pedestal), and perhaps subsequently bragging about it to them. A few Engineering/College students at Penn have insane inferiority complexes because they're always comparing their 'pedigree' to that of the M&T/Huntsman kids. Sad, since Penn is a fine institution in itself.

In reply to seedy underbelly
12/27/11
seedy underbelly:

A bit of Psychology-101 analysis, if I may (when else will this class come in useful?):

Brady developed his inferiority complex at Penn around the M&T/Huntsman kids, and now believes his only way of 'topping' them is making it to HBS (a program that he has consistently placed on a pedestal), and perhaps subsequently bragging about it to them. A few Engineering/College students at Penn have insane inferiority complexes because they're always comparing their 'pedigree' to that of the M&T/Huntsman kids. Sad, since Penn is a fine institution in itself.

Haha. This was hilarious. Thanks for the comedy gold, kid.

In reply to Brady4MVP
12/27/11
Brady4MVP][quote=ANT:

I know for a fact that I will be slaying tons of chicks at a top b-school.

I know for a fact that you won't

If your dreams don't scare you, then they are not big enough.

"There are two types of people in this world: People who say they pee in the shower, and dirty fucking liars."-Louis C.K.

12/27/11

Another thing that nobody has mentioned is that REPUTATION is huge at business school. This is not undergrad. You are not considered a stud if you smash tons of chicks. In fact, you are considered a total shit bag and your reputation at school and professionally could be seriously tainted. Girls do not put out in business school because the last thing they want is the reputation of a slut. The first gate keeper at all the prestigious firms is usually an alum of your school and these alums talk to the second-year students. If you think for one second that rumors don't circulate into the corporate world you are absolutely crazy. I guarantee that stories about current students spread like wild fire among alums. Do you really want to be THAT GUY or THAT GIRL that just smashes everyone after parties and gets that reputation professionally? People know everything about everyone.

Go to business school and you will see what it is really like. It is not like you are making it out to be.

In reply to SDBall22
12/27/11
SDBall22:

Another thing that nobody has mentioned is that REPUTATION is huge at business school. This is not undergrad. You are not considered a stud if you smash tons of chicks. In fact, you are considered a total shit bag and your reputation at school and professionally could be seriously tainted. Girls do not put out in business school because the last thing they want is the reputation of a slut. The first gate keeper at all the prestigious firms is usually an alum of your school and these alums talk to the second-year students. If you think for one second that rumors don't circulate into the corporate world you are absolutely crazy. I guarantee that stories about current students spread like wild fire among alums. Do you really want to be THAT GUY or THAT GIRL that just smashes everyone after parties and gets that reputation professionally? People know everything about everyone.

Go to business school and you will see what it is really like. It is not like you are making it out to be.

It's true that the rumor mill in b-school runs wild. But lot of people still hook up and date because quit frankly, they're there to have a good time and could care less about what people say. Of course, if you go overboard, you will probably be featured in the annual follies show. Lol.

In reply to Brady4MVP
12/27/11
Brady4MVP:

My best friend called last night. The guy is currently a first-year at a top 5 mba program, and he was telling me about his winter break thus far. His classmates went on a ski trip to colorado, where they got wasted and fucked like rabbits. In his words, "pretty much everyone has hooked up by now. It's really easy to get laid in b-school." Next, he went on a career trek in silicon valley, visiting start-up tech firms on the cutting edge. And now he is on his way to New Zeland.

Fucking SICK life. Can any non-mba folks on WSO beat that? I doubt it.

i dont want to pile on, but going to business school to get laid and go skiing is really absurd. Why not try putting some time and effort into cultivating a social life on your own? I am not saying whether or not I can "beat that" but I do have sex regularly and if I wanted to I could go skiing...these arent really things you need to go to business school to accomplish. Besides, what are you going to do after two years when you finish business school and cant get laid or go skiing anymore?

In reply to Bondarb
12/27/11
Bondarb:
Brady4MVP:

My best friend called last night. The guy is currently a first-year at a top 5 mba program, and he was telling me about his winter break thus far. His classmates went on a ski trip to colorado, where they got wasted and fucked like rabbits. In his words, "pretty much everyone has hooked up by now. It's really easy to get laid in b-school." Next, he went on a career trek in silicon valley, visiting start-up tech firms on the cutting edge. And now he is on his way to New Zeland.

Fucking SICK life. Can any non-mba folks on WSO beat that? I doubt it.

i dont want to pile on, but going to business school to get laid and go skiing is really absurd. Why not try putting some time and effort into cultivating a social life on your own? I am not saying whether or not I can "beat that" but I do have sex regularly and if I wanted to I could go skiing...these arent really things you need to go to business school to accomplish. Besides, what are you going to do after two years when you finish business school and cant get laid or go skiing anymore?

Bondarb, you're one of the best posters on WSO, so you deserve an honest and serious response.

The issue is NOT that i don't have friends, can't get girls, or can't go skiing. I think a lot of other posters have missed the point. My main assertion is that business school, due to its unique nature, allows one to pursue his academic, professional, and social interests with almost complete freedom and latitude. Given that I'm totally burned out from a job I don't like too much, I am craving what b-school has to offer. It will allow me to re-fuel, make great friends, and hopefully get on a career trajectory that actually interests me.

12/27/11

My brother went to Sloan, and based on what he tells me, I wouldn't recommend you go there if you're looking to ball out for 2 years. He claims he had more fun during his analyst years (non finance).

Congrats everyone.

12/27/11

Seriously, threads like this make me question why I still visit WSO.

@all clowns dissing Brady, listen up kids, you're not as cool as you think you sound. The fact that you clowns are posting on WSO trying to pick an argument shows you're not the pussy-crushing alchoholic (actually, this part might be true) alpha-males you think you are. Stop trying to act cool and get on with your lives. Also, a word of advise for the kids whose repartee consists of "I sure am glad I spend my weekends partying" - maybe this is why you're also complaining recruiting is so tough this season...think about it and have a good day.

@Brady, dude, I honestly have no idea whether you're a troll or not. I'm going to bite though, and assume for a moment you're not a troll. Clearly you know what you want. Now, instead of forcing your views of B-school as the gospel truth, use the resources on this site to work towards your goal. By repeating the same points like a broken record, you're diluting your credibility (which would be a shame because you're one of the few posters with a real job).

@mods - Would have expected one of you to have locked this thread by now.

12/27/11

Anyone else wanna be there when Brady tries to put the moves on a girl?

12/27/11

Me me me! It'd be more embarrassing than.... well, me putting the moves on the ladies

If your dreams don't scare you, then they are not big enough.

"There are two types of people in this world: People who say they pee in the shower, and dirty fucking liars."-Louis C.K.

12/27/11

This thread is like an episode of Curb Your Enthusiasm. Everything Brady says makes me cringe in embarrassment for him, but for some reason I can't stop reading.

12/27/11

Larry David definitely gets more ass than Brady.

12/27/11

You could always.... lie......to.......women?

Where the fuck is Braverman when you need him. BRAVERMAN! GET IN HERE AND STRAIGHTEN THIS SHIT OUT FOR FUCKS SAKE. Be the internet father he never had. take it for the team

In reply to OffTheGrid
12/28/11
OffTheGrid:

+1 for the first legitimate post in 3 pages of nonsense.

Most people do things to add days to their life. I do things to add life to my days.

Browse my blog as a WSO contributing author

12/28/11

OffTheGrid, thanks for this informative post. Finally, someone in this thread who actually knows what she's talking about.

If you don't mind, a few quick questions:

1. I have no idea how "attractive" the HBS student body is, but a few friends who are in your class have said that there are a decent number of good looking girls, much moreso than they expected. They think this is due to hbs accepting less finance people and drawing from more non-traditional industries that tend to have hotter people.

2. Regarding the social scene and dating, I'm surprised by your comments since HBS is now a lot younger (most people are between 24-26 years old). So I would imagine that a lot of your classmates would be single. Also, do the guys in your class do well with the non-harvard girls in boston by virtue of their HBS pedigree? Or is brady just full of shit when it comes to the power of the "H-bomb?"

3. I thought grades don't matter at HBS? Why do people want 1's in finance so badly?

In reply to Brady4MVP
12/28/11
Brady4MVP:

My best friend called last night. The guy is currently a first-year at a top 5 mba program, and he was telling me about his winter break thus far. His classmates went on a ski trip to colorado, where they got wasted and fucked like rabbits. In his words, "pretty much everyone has hooked up by now. It's really easy to get laid in b-school." Next, he went on a career trek in silicon valley, visiting start-up tech firms on the cutting edge. And now he is on his way to New Zeland.

Fucking SICK life. Can any non-mba folks on WSO beat that? I doubt it.

I started living and working in a different part of the country shortly after graduating this past May. This was my first time coming to this state and I had no special inroads to social life. A few months ago I went on a trip to wine country with a bunch of people from different divisions of one of these "cutting edge" companies. The person who invited me on the trip later invited me to go on a ski trip with a smaller group. I'm not sure if I'll go to that one as I've never gone skiing before in my life. More recently, I went to a conference which featured several "cutting edge" tech firms that ranged from start up to giant as well as the Angels/VC/PE shops that finance them. I hope to do some traveling abroad this Summer. I also sleep with my girlfriend.

I don't say any of this to "beat" you. I find the idea of trying to "beat" others with stories about how cool I am to be pretty douchey whether or not I end my paragraphs with "FUCKING SICK BRO." I think you need to really reexamine why you want to go to B school. Maybe you can do many of the same things right now that you think you can only do by attending B school. Maybe you will still want to do it. I am still thinking about doing so in a few years.

I understand that moving to a new city is hard as I have done it myself and my friend recently moved to Chicago for a job. Maybe you should try a site like meetup.com if you're having trouble building a social life. I mostly use it for foreign language practice and the occasional happy hour, but the people I meet through meetup are never cliquish.

In reply to Derivatives
12/28/11
Derivatives:

3. I thought grades don't matter at HBS? Why do people want 1's in finance so badly?

HBS no longer has grade non disclosure as of last year or two years ago

In reply to consulting huh
12/28/11
consulting huh:
Derivatives:

3. I thought grades don't matter at HBS? Why do people want 1's in finance so badly?

HBS no longer has grade non disclosure as of last year or two years ago

There are firms that will hand you a piece of paper during an interview and say, "write down your core grades." Getting a 'B' in finance or accounting can mean a ding for bankers and low grades in general ding a consultant. If you want to see grown men cry, stand in the halls after a business school finance final exam lets out.

In reply to Bondarb
12/28/11
Bondarb:
Brady4MVP:

My best friend called last night. The guy is currently a first-year at a top 5 mba program, and he was telling me about his winter break thus far. His classmates went on a ski trip to colorado, where they got wasted and fucked like rabbits. In his words, "pretty much everyone has hooked up by now. It's really easy to get laid in b-school." Next, he went on a career trek in silicon valley, visiting start-up tech firms on the cutting edge. And now he is on his way to New Zeland.

Fucking SICK life. Can any non-mba folks on WSO beat that? I doubt it.

i dont want to pile on, but going to business school to get laid and go skiing is really absurd. Why not try putting some time and effort into cultivating a social life on your own? I am not saying whether or not I can "beat that" but I do have sex regularly and if I wanted to I could go skiing...these arent really things you need to go to business school to accomplish. Besides, what are you going to do after two years when you finish business school and cant get laid or go skiing anymore?

hahahhahaha this post was amazing

In reply to Derivatives
12/28/11
Derivatives:

OffTheGrid, thanks for this informative post. Finally, someone in this thread who actually knows what she's talking about.

If you don't mind, a few quick questions:

1. I have no idea how "attractive" the HBS student body is, but a few friends who are in your class have said that there are a decent number of good looking girls, much moreso than they expected. They think this is due to hbs accepting less finance people and drawing from more non-traditional industries that tend to have hotter people.

>> Maybe this is true; I have no benchmark since my class is the only class I know. (We don't interact with the ECs broadly.) I am not sure if you can make that correlation/causation relationship, though. Does engineering or marketing have "hotter" people? I worked in two different industries and did not notice a material gap. But my life goals do not center around f***ing like a rabbit, so maybe that is why. If you are going to HBS to meet hot people, you are wasting $200k.

2. Regarding the social scene and dating, I'm surprised by your comments since HBS is now a lot younger (most people are between 24-26 years old). So I would imagine that a lot of your classmates would be single. Also, do the guys in your class do well with the non-harvard girls in boston by virtue of their HBS pedigree? Or is brady just full of shit when it comes to the power of the "H-bomb?"

>>That's actually not true; the average age is 27 and trending upward. If someone were 24, that would mean they were 2+2 and <10% of the class is 2+2. Separately, think about it this way. If the girls are as hot as described in (1) AND driven AND know what they want in life, they are probably already swooped up by now. There are very few single people in my section. Many are engaged, got engaged last semester or are in LTR's. In addition, about ~35% of my section is married. Honestly most of my guy friends are in relationships and when we hang out in big groups I don't really see a lot go down. A couple of people in our section hooked up with some other HBS people. Nothing major that you wouldn't expect in the "real world", though.

3. I thought grades don't matter at HBS? Why do people want 1's in finance so badly?

>>Because if you really get a hard-on recruiting for banking or PE and Blackstone M&A or KKR asks for your grades, you can proudly state you got 1's. Grades don't matter largely but you can release your grades if you wish.

Also, think of it this way. Put 900+ Type-A overachieving, always-done-everything-right, always-been-the-best, driven, hard-working people in a pressure cooker for 2 years. Stand back and watch.

However, I will say I know several Baker scholars (classes of 09 and 10) who said they regret the commitment deeply because they had to sacrifice so much (call it talks, clubs, parties, trips, going to the gym, and yes RECRUITING) just to become a Baker scholar. They are in basically the same job as my roommate was before HBS and said they wish they spent their time differently. One of my professors has the philosophy that Baker scholars should happen organically. i.e., the cream should just rise to the top and for the truly bright folks it will happen naturally; it is not something that you should be striving for. Also, your sectionmates typically despise that behavior and it could end up ostracizing you socially. The girl who sits in front of my participation buddy has her hand up non-stop and the whole row basically is now trying to slam her comments next semester. You don't want to be that person.

As a side note, yes, many people did not finish the FIN1 Final on Dec 16th and there were tears.

Cheers

In reply to SDBall22
12/28/11
SDBall22:
consulting huh:
Derivatives:

3. I thought grades don't matter at HBS? Why do people want 1's in finance so badly?

HBS no longer has grade non disclosure as of last year or two years ago

There are firms that will hand you a piece of paper during an interview and say, "write down your core grades." Getting a 'B' in finance or accounting can mean a ding for bankers and low grades in general ding a consultant. If you want to see grown men cry, stand in the halls after a business school finance final exam lets out.

I thought MBA was more about networking and less about grades no?

In reply to OffTheGrid
12/28/11
OffTheGrid:
Derivatives:

OffTheGrid, thanks for this informative post. Finally, someone in this thread who actually knows what she's talking about.

If you don't mind, a few quick questions:

1. I have no idea how "attractive" the HBS student body is, but a few friends who are in your class have said that there are a decent number of good looking girls, much moreso than they expected. They think this is due to hbs accepting less finance people and drawing from more non-traditional industries that tend to have hotter people.

>> Maybe this is true; I have no benchmark since my class is the only class I know. (We don't interact with the ECs broadly.) I am not sure if you can make that correlation/causation relationship, though. Does engineering or marketing have "hotter" people? I worked in two different industries and did not notice a material gap. But my life goals do not center around f***ing like a rabbit, so maybe that is why. If you are going to HBS to meet hot people, you are wasting $200k.

2. Regarding the social scene and dating, I'm surprised by your comments since HBS is now a lot younger (most people are between 24-26 years old). So I would imagine that a lot of your classmates would be single. Also, do the guys in your class do well with the non-harvard girls in boston by virtue of their HBS pedigree? Or is brady just full of shit when it comes to the power of the "H-bomb?"

>>That's actually not true; the average age is 27 and trending upward. If someone were 24, that would mean they were 2+2 and <10% of the class is 2+2. Separately, think about it this way. If the girls are as hot as described in (1) AND driven AND know what they want in life, they are probably already swooped up by now. There are very few single people in my section. Many are engaged, got engaged last semester or are in LTR's. In addition, about ~35% of my section is married. Honestly most of my guy friends are in relationships and when we hang out in big groups I don't really see a lot go down. A couple of people in our section hooked up with some other HBS people. Nothing major that you wouldn't expect in the "real world", though.

3. I thought grades don't matter at HBS? Why do people want 1's in finance so badly?

>>Because if you really get a hard-on recruiting for banking or PE and Blackstone M&A or KKR asks for your grades, you can proudly state you got 1's. Grades don't matter largely but you can release your grades if you wish.

Also, think of it this way. Put 900+ Type-A overachieving, always-done-everything-right, always-been-the-best, driven, hard-working people in a pressure cooker for 2 years. Stand back and watch.

However, I will say I know several Baker scholars (classes of 09 and 10) who said they regret the commitment deeply because they had to sacrifice so much (call it talks, clubs, parties, trips, going to the gym, and yes RECRUITING) just to become a Baker scholar. They are in basically the same job as my roommate was before HBS and said they wish they spent their time differently. One of my professors has the philosophy that Baker scholars should happen organically. i.e., the cream should just rise to the top and for the truly bright folks it will happen naturally; it is not something that you should be striving for. Also, your sectionmates typically despise that behavior and it could end up ostracizing you socially. The girl who sits in front of my participation buddy has her hand up non-stop and the whole row basically is now trying to slam her comments next semester. You don't want to be that person.

As a side note, yes, many people did not finish the FIN1 Final on Dec 16th and there were tears.

Cheers

Thanks for clarifying a lot of the misinformation on HBS. It's refreshing to read a serious well-informed post.

I'm surprised that so many people in your class are married, engaged, or in serious relationships. Very different from what i've heard.

Can you describe a bit more about your classmates and why you find them so impressive? Is it because most of them have a "blue-chip" resume? Or are they really interesting people with a wealth of life experience?

I'm stunned that people were actually crying after an MBA final exam.

In reply to Derivatives
12/28/11
Derivatives][quote=OffTheGrid][quote=Derivatives:

Thanks for clarifying a lot of the misinformation on HBS. It's refreshing to read a serious well-informed post.

I'm surprised that so many people in your class are married, engaged, or in serious relationships. Very different from what i've heard.

>>In general, people talk a lot of s***. See also: "I got wasted before the final." i.e. "I banged half the RC class." = I banged 2 people in the RC class and the others rejected me. You see where I am going with this. I believe there was some rule of 3 in a movie once; I think that was American Pie. Anyways.

Can you describe a bit more about your classmates and why you find them so impressive? Is it because most of them have a "blue-chip" resume? Or are they really interesting people with a wealth of life experience?

>>Personally, I could give a f*** what people did before business school. Titles and jobs are nothing if you cannot conduct yourself properly. What impresses me are the following aspects:
How articulate students are when commenting/emailing/talking casually
How responsive students are if someone needs help in FIN, Ops, Marketing, etc. It is not really a cut throat environment like some people say. At least that's not my view
How respectful people are.

Above all I think this makes sense. No one wants to work with an a**hole. My former boss was such a jerk and no one likes him in as much that PE shops have stopped doing deals with him. To that end, I think what impresses me most is that HBS (and B school students in general) "get it" and modify their behaviors to set them up for success. Banging chicks and slamming shots will not make you successful, although I agree that some degree of social interaction/skill is important.

I'm stunned that people were actually crying after an MBA final exam.
>>Yea, me too. I was just happy to be finished. Lol.

12/28/11

Wow, I can't believe I read through this, especially since I am not even in the office.

Anyways, I'll bite on a few things:

Brady: you seem like a decent dude, don't listen to all these people shitting on you (well maybe the few people that know what they are talking about). A lot of ex co-workers/contacts/friends are at HBS/Wharton/Stanford GSB and their experiences are much similar to what OffTheGrid alluded to in her post. I think you have an idea of what you really want out of Bschool, but it may not be in line with reality. For me, Bschool is a revolving question, as I am seeing the path to where I want to be without it, but agree it is a great thing to add to any resume.

OffTheGrid: solid insight, very similar to other reputable source info

Bottom line, if you didn't get laid in ugrad, aren't getting laid in your current life/traveling/have friends/enjoy yourself, this is not going to change because you get to meet Suffolk girls with your HBS hoodie on.

"Jesus, he's like a gremlin; comes with instructions and shit"

In reply to JimmyDormandy
12/28/11
JimmyDormandy:

Wow, I can't believe I read through this, especially since I am not even in the office.

Anyways, I'll bite on a few things:

Brady: you seem like a decent dude, don't listen to all these people shitting on you (well maybe the few people that know what they are talking about). A lot of ex co-workers/contacts/friends are at HBS/Wharton/Stanford GSB and their experiences are much similar to what OffTheGrid alluded to in her post. I think you have an idea of what you really want out of Bschool, but it may not be in line with reality. For me, Bschool is a revolving question, as I am seeing the path to where I want to be without it, but agree it is a great thing to add to any resume.

OffTheGrid: solid insight, very similar to other reputable source info

Bottom line, if you didn't get laid in ugrad, aren't getting laid in your current life/traveling/have friends/enjoy yourself, this is not going to change because you get to meet Suffolk girls with your HBS hoodie on.

Thanks for the kind words. You make some good points.

Lost in all this though is the fact that I do have legitimate professional reasons for wanting to pursue an MBA at a top school. It would be very difficult to achieve my career goals without it.

Moreover, I really miss being surrounded by very smart talented peers. That's the part about college I absolutely loved. I felt this acutely when I visited booth. Being inside the gorgeous pristine harper center and overhearing discussions on finance literally sent chills down my spine. I felt alive for the first time in a while. The intellectual energy was infectious.

In reply to Brady4MVP
12/28/11
Brady4MVP:
JimmyDormandy:

Wow, I can't believe I read through this, especially since I am not even in the office.

Anyways, I'll bite on a few things:

Brady: you seem like a decent dude, don't listen to all these people shitting on you (well maybe the few people that know what they are talking about). A lot of ex co-workers/contacts/friends are at HBS/Wharton/Stanford GSB and their experiences are much similar to what OffTheGrid alluded to in her post. I think you have an idea of what you really want out of Bschool, but it may not be in line with reality. For me, Bschool is a revolving question, as I am seeing the path to where I want to be without it, but agree it is a great thing to add to any resume.

OffTheGrid: solid insight, very similar to other reputable source info

Bottom line, if you didn't get laid in ugrad, aren't getting laid in your current life/traveling/have friends/enjoy yourself, this is not going to change because you get to meet Suffolk girls with your HBS hoodie on.

Thanks for the kind words. You make some good points.

Lost in all this though is the fact that I do have legitimate professional reasons for wanting to pursue an MBA at a top school. It would be very difficult to achieve my career goals without it.

Moreover, I really miss being surrounded by very smart talented peers. That's the part about college I absolutely loved. I felt this acutely when I visited booth. Being inside the gorgeous pristine harper center and overhearing discussions on finance literally sent chills down my spine. I felt alive for the first time in a while. The intellectual energy was infectious.

Wow.

The answer to your question is 1) network 2) get involved 3) beef up your resume 4) repeat -happypantsmcgee

WSO is not your personal search function.

12/28/11

I went to Wharton and heard two chicks talking about p/e ratios... I came

everywhere

honestly though... if hearing a conversation about finance was the first thing that made you feel alive in a while, your life sucks

If your dreams don't scare you, then they are not big enough.

"There are two types of people in this world: People who say they pee in the shower, and dirty fucking liars."-Louis C.K.

In reply to bfin
12/28/11
blackfinancier:
Brady4MVP:
JimmyDormandy:

Wow, I can't believe I read through this, especially since I am not even in the office.

Anyways, I'll bite on a few things:

Brady: you seem like a decent dude, don't listen to all these people shitting on you (well maybe the few people that know what they are talking about). A lot of ex co-workers/contacts/friends are at HBS/Wharton/Stanford GSB and their experiences are much similar to what OffTheGrid alluded to in her post. I think you have an idea of what you really want out of Bschool, but it may not be in line with reality. For me, Bschool is a revolving question, as I am seeing the path to where I want to be without it, but agree it is a great thing to add to any resume.

OffTheGrid: solid insight, very similar to other reputable source info

Bottom line, if you didn't get laid in ugrad, aren't getting laid in your current life/traveling/have friends/enjoy yourself, this is not going to change because you get to meet Suffolk girls with your HBS hoodie on.

Thanks for the kind words. You make some good points.

Lost in all this though is the fact that I do have legitimate professional reasons for wanting to pursue an MBA at a top school. It would be very difficult to achieve my career goals without it.

Moreover, I really miss being surrounded by very smart talented peers. That's the part about college I absolutely loved. I felt this acutely when I visited booth. Being inside the gorgeous pristine harper center and overhearing discussions on finance literally sent chills down my spine. I felt alive for the first time in a while. The intellectual energy was infectious.

Wow.

Double wow.

12/28/11
12/28/11

Brady4MVP is a successful proprietary trader with a long, storied career and he has "other career ambitions". This is like the governor of Iowa wishing that he could be a mayor of a small town in Switzerland where everyone is so much richer and cooler and the girls are all hotties.

Oh boohoo Brady. Stop whining and go win some football games.

12/29/11

Wait... how does going to b-school equate to one big, awesome party? A bunch of over ambitious, slightly socially awkward people in one place - sounds like a buzz kill. Great career move, bad place to party.

If you want to party hard come get an MBA from my piece of shit non-target school. My undergrad was one big cluster f**K of people that only wanted to rage Tuesday-Sunday night. You can't have it all man, I guarantee you the best parties are not to be found at b-school. On campus recruitment will be horrible but at the end of your two years you'll be able to drink a 300 pound Irishman under the table and have more STDs than Paris Hilton.

12/29/11

youre a real bum Brady. Go eat some chicken bim bim bop and stop dreaming about HBS

In reply to wolverine19x89
12/29/11
scottj19x89:

I went to Wharton and heard two chicks talking about p/e ratios... I came

everywhere

honestly though... if hearing a conversation about finance was the first thing that made you feel alive in a while, your life sucks

Ha, made me think of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pXfHLUlZf4

Brady, everyone is giving you shit for saying you want to go to b-school to bang all the hot MBA chicks all over the place. Understood you want to go for professional reasons, for the network, for the intellectual stimulation, and for the general feel of being surrounded by smart, successful individuals. I just think it'll probably be slightly different than you expect.

I actually had beers last night with a good friend and his older brother who is a first-year at HBS. He's married, so his view may be a bit skewed, but he echoed the sentiments of the poster above. Some hook-ups among the singles, but there are no rampant sex parties and girls certainly aren't dropping their pants for any HBS student. And he commented on the quality of females, basically said he's thrilled he wasn't going into b-school looking to meet chicks because, well... it's not undergrad.

In reply to jimbrowngoU
12/29/11
jimbrowngoU:
scottj19x89:

I went to Wharton and heard two chicks talking about p/e ratios... I came

everywhere

honestly though... if hearing a conversation about finance was the first thing that made you feel alive in a while, your life sucks

Ha, made me think of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pXfHLUlZf4

Brady, everyone is giving you shit for saying you want to go to b-school to bang all the hot MBA chicks all over the place. Understood you want to go for professional reasons, for the network, for the intellectual stimulation, and for the general feel of being surrounded by smart, successful individuals. I just think it'll probably be slightly different than you expect.

I actually had beers last night with a good friend and his older brother who is a first-year at HBS. He's married, so his view may be a bit skewed, but he echoed the sentiments of the poster above. Some hook-ups among the singles, but there are no rampant sex parties and girls certainly aren't dropping their pants for any HBS student. And he commented on the quality of females, basically said he's thrilled he wasn't going into b-school looking to meet chicks because, well... it's not undergrad.

Married students have a very different b-school experience from the single guys. It's not even comparable.

12/29/11

Sure, wouldn't disagree, but he and his wife are young and I know like to go out and drink, and he brings her around quite a bit. He doesn't let his marriage get in the way of the networking and social events at school... So he sees and hears a lot of what goes on. And, obviously, he sees the chicks at HBS all the time, and the fact that he's married has nothing to do with his judgment there.

Your views of what b-school will be are just a bit misconstrued. When are you applying? This coming fall? Did you attend undergrad in the Boston area? Just curious. Apologies if this is known information, haven't paid a lot of attention over the past few months.

In reply to jimbrowngoU
12/29/11
jimbrowngoU:

Sure, wouldn't disagree, but he and his wife are young and I know like to go out and drink, and he brings her around quite a bit. He doesn't let his marriage get in the way of the networking and social events at school... So he sees and hears a lot of what goes on. And, obviously, he sees the chicks at HBS all the time, and the fact that he's married has nothing to do with his judgment there.

Your views of what b-school will be are just a bit misconstrued. When are you applying? This coming fall? Did you attend undergrad in the Boston area? Just curious. Apologies if this is known information, haven't paid a lot of attention over the past few months.

I'm applying next fall. I'm actually a re-applicant.

No, I did my undergrad at Penn.

12/29/11

As much as I give you shit, I'd be so happy for you if you got in haha

If your dreams don't scare you, then they are not big enough.

"There are two types of people in this world: People who say they pee in the shower, and dirty fucking liars."-Louis C.K.

12/29/11
12/29/11

BTW... I second that there are much better places to get your MBA if your number one goal is having a much awaited social life and finally losing your virginity. Stanford and Ross, come to mind off hand... Columbia for its location... for that matter any of the good b-schools in Londo.

12/29/11

Brady how is it that you keep referring to this plethora of friends, each of which just happened to have called you last night and randomly made a statement which refutes one of the many arguments on here which you disagree with?

12/29/11

Marcus_Halberstam, when did i ever say that my b-school friends called me last night to refute the points? I talk to them occasionally, and they tell me what's going on. I also visited hbs and wharton last fall and went to a bunch of parties, so i got a firsthand view of what the social scene is like there.

For nye, my b-school buddies are literally all over the world: tokyo, paris, sydney, rio, etc. Meanwhile i'm stuck in fucking chicago due to work and can't find a decent party to go to. I don't think any rational person can argue that my social life won't be exponentially better if i were in b-school right now.

12/30/11

^ Chicago is a very decent city.

It could be worse, you know.

Also, to add to marcus' recommendations for b-school social life: Duke-Fuqua, NYU-Stern, UCLA-Anderson, Dartmouth-Tuck. All are incredibly socially active environments.

12/30/11

seedy underbelly, yes, Chicago is a nice city. But I'm tired of it. Craving for more excitement and adventure and really want to meet a lot of smart talented people. My body and soul literally ache when I think about what I'm missing out on by not being in b-school. I have to distract myself in order to dull the pain.

12/30/11

...why cant you just go to Rio or Tokyo with your friends now? Last I checked these places require only a passport, not a HBS student ID. I really think you need to get your own shitt together and realize that going to b-school or anywhere else isnt going to change the issues that make you not like Chicago.
http://youtu.be/g2jAwiq6YsE

12/30/11

Brady4MVP - please take my advice seriously. I want to be constructive and hope you don't take this the wrong way.

As discussed in the multitude of other threads, your impression of business school is extremely flawed and it isn't one 24-hour party. Recruiting, especially, is an extremely intense period that wears people down physically and mentally. Your friends' "ski trip" stories aren't very realistic from the first-year business school I know as 50% of the class (pursuing banking, consulting and other early hitters) are extremely stressed out about grades, networking and preparations. My school didn't report grades but the first-year was still very intense where people often skipped parties and there were no class trips to speak of (though a lot of trips came about in the spring time and for second-years).

Also, you are severely damaging your reputation on these boards. Of course, there is a degree of separation from real life with your internet persona... but then again, you are risking your real life prospects here. If current business school students (who review your initial applications and conduct admission interviews) like myself read and remember all this, we might also figure out who you are and your application could be severely jeopardized. Your HBS infatuation could eliminate you from the running at Columbia... You keep on trashing on Chicago so you might as well kiss Booth goodbye... Your talks about how MIT Sloan kids feel inferior to HBS kids might not make them very happy...

From what I have casually, you are a re-applicant, around 32 years of age, went to UPenn undergrad, based out of Chicago, Asian male, work (underpaid) at a hedge fund and from New England originally. Believe it or not, there aren't too many people with this profile out there. It doesn't take much for someone to figure this out and automatically ding you for your HBS fetish. Please stop because you may severely damage your real life admission chances.

In reply to Vancouver Canucks 2011
12/30/11
Vancouver Canucks 2011:

Brady4MVP - please take my advice seriously. I want to be constructive and hope you don't take this the wrong way.

As discussed in the multitude of other threads, your impression of business school is extremely flawed and it isn't one 24-hour party. Recruiting, especially, is an extremely intense period that wears people down physically and mentally. Your friends' "ski trip" stories aren't very realistic from the first-year business school I know as 50% of the class (pursuing banking, consulting and other early hitters) are extremely stressed out about grades, networking and preparations. My school didn't report grades but the first-year was still very intense where people often skipped parties and there were no class trips to speak of (though a lot of trips came about in the spring time and for second-years).

Also, you are severely damaging your reputation on these boards. Of course, there is a degree of separation from real life with your internet persona... but then again, you are risking your real life prospects here. If current business school students (who review your initial applications and conduct admission interviews) like myself read and remember all this, we might also figure out who you are and your application could be severely jeopardized. Your HBS infatuation could eliminate you from the running at Columbia... You keep on trashing on Chicago so you might as well kiss Booth goodbye... Your talks about how MIT Sloan kids feel inferior to HBS kids might not make them very happy...

From what I have casually, you are a re-applicant, around 32 years of age, went to UPenn undergrad, based out of Chicago, Asian male, work (underpaid) at a hedge fund and from New England originally. Believe it or not, there aren't too many people with this profile out there. It doesn't take much for someone to figure this out and automatically ding you for your HBS fetish. Please stop because you may severely damage your real life admission chances.

Let's hope he hasn't damaged his prospects too much. I think this whole board is looking forward to the day Brady posts he's been accepted to HBS...

...Can you just imagine the end of all these posts? ;)

12/30/11

A lot of haters on this board.

Brady's description isn't too far from what i've heard from some ppl. I think his reasons for wanting HBS are perfectly legit, even if he's been drawn into overstating his case by the mean spirited attacks on this thread.

Seriously, what a bunch of fucking "HBS sucks fuck business school" losers. Fact: People who care enough to post what many are posting on this thread didn't turn down HBS because they could get better tail, carreer prospects, or w/e in their current life. They can't get in.

In reply to dazedmonk
12/30/11
dazedmonk:

A lot of haters on this board.

Brady's description isn't too far from what i've heard from some ppl. I think his reasons for wanting HBS are perfectly legit, even if he's been drawn into overstating his case by the mean spirited attacks on this thread.

Seriously, what a bunch of fucking "HBS sucks fuck business school" losers. Fact: People who care enough to post what many are posting on this thread didn't turn down HBS because they could get better tail, carreer prospects, or w/e in their current life. They can't get in.

This doesn't seem to be a majority of the posters. Pretty sure anyone who posted in this thread did not say HBS sucks, and most wouldn't say b-school is a waste of time and money - only if you're going to improve your social standing and get laid. There's a slight difference between the two, no?

In reply to Brady4MVP
12/30/11
Brady4MVP:

seedy underbelly, yes, Chicago is a nice city. But I'm tired of it. Craving for more excitement and adventure and really want to meet a lot of smart talented people. My body and soul literally ache when I think about what I'm missing out on by not being in b-school. I have to distract myself in order to dull the pain.

Dude, it could be worse. You could be in Philly...

...or Hyde Park.

In reply to dazedmonk
12/30/11
dazedmonk:

A lot of haters on this board.

Brady's description isn't too far from what i've heard from some ppl. I think his reasons for wanting HBS are perfectly legit, even if he's been drawn into overstating his case by the mean spirited attacks on this thread.

Seriously, what a bunch of fucking "HBS sucks fuck business school" losers. Fact: People who care enough to post what many are posting on this thread didn't turn down HBS because they could get better tail, carreer prospects, or w/e in their current life. They can't get in.

1. Seeing as I havent applied, it would be hard for me not to get in, right?
2. No one said HBS sucks.
3. No one said they can get better tail, it isnt a fucking competition. People said they don't need business school or a brand name degree to find women.
4. Brady's reasons are absolutely, unequivocally not legit. But to each his own.

12/30/11

I would argue that even if you're looking to get back into education purely (or is at least a major part of your thinking) to build up your social life again, business school would be at the bottom of my list.

Brady, go to law school.

In reply to FinancialNoviceII
12/30/11
FinancialNoviceII:

I would argue that even if you're looking to get back into education purely (or is at least a major part of your thinking) to build up your social life again, business school would be at the bottom of my list.

Brady, go to law school.

I guess you missed the part where I said explicitly that professional goals (getting into IM) are the #1 reason why I want to go to a M7 b-school. The social stuff is important but secondary to professional.

In reply to IlliniProgrammer
12/30/11
IlliniProgrammer:
Brady4MVP:

seedy underbelly, yes, Chicago is a nice city. But I'm tired of it. Craving for more excitement and adventure and really want to meet a lot of smart talented people. My body and soul literally ache when I think about what I'm missing out on by not being in b-school. I have to distract myself in order to dull the pain.

Dude, it could be worse. You could be in Philly...

...or Hyde Park.

Whoooaaaaaa

In reply to TNA
12/30/11
ANT:
IlliniProgrammer:
Brady4MVP:

seedy underbelly, yes, Chicago is a nice city. But I'm tired of it. Craving for more excitement and adventure and really want to meet a lot of smart talented people. My body and soul literally ache when I think about what I'm missing out on by not being in b-school. I have to distract myself in order to dull the pain.

Dude, it could be worse. You could be in Phill