if you have above 1500 I'd say put it down. ONLY put the breakdown if your math score was above 700. If your math was below 700, just list the cumulative provided it is above 1500.
I hate seeing SAT scores on resumes- showing me you got a 700+ on math just tells me you know 9th grade math. The kid comes off to me as a dbag if he puts it on there--just what I think when I look through resumes.
You should focus on impressing recruiters with what have you done in the past three years rather then what you done the second semester of your junior year in high school.
... but I'm from a non-target that has been networking to get my resume through to a few BBs. Anyway, the alumni I talked to (a few VPs and MDs) all told me to make sure to include my SATs if they were above 1500. A couple of the BBs web sites specifically recommend putting on a good SAT score if you are in a non-quantative major. A decent percent of the online applications specifically ask for your SAT score. And a recruiter at one of the BBs specifically recommended that I include my scores if they were good.
Obviously a few analysts strongly disagree, but unfortunatly it seems like there is no right answer about this. It would appear as if you have more to lose by including them if you come from a target. Coming from a non-target, it serves as some sort of equalizer in comparing verbal/math skills to the ivy kids...though, i guess not everyone agrees.
I don't like seeing SAT scores on students from target schools because it doesn't add any real value (and appears high schoolish as someone mentioned). If you go to Harvard/Wharton and the like, I know you did well on the SAT, no need to list it out there.
Different story for non-targets. If you go to a small school/not so great public school, put it on there. Then I would assume you are a genuine smart kid who didn't go to a target school for personal reasons (and not because you couldn't get in).
So, general rule, at least for me: target=no SAT score and non-target= yes (if its good)
You are an idiot. Are you such a loser that you want nothing to do with banking but you waste your time on this board? It's obvious from the above posts that there are times when you should include your SATs. Goldman Sachs (among others)asks for your scores on their online applications..and I already mentioned the people who told me to do it. Hell, some places REQUIRE it (at DE Shaw they only interview people with 1500+ for some positions...so it DOES matter for some post-college career admissions). Why would you give advice on something you know NOTHING about?
I have had an internship at a boutique before, they never asked for an SAT, hell some kids never even took the SAT/ACT, I never took them and still went to college. Why the fuck would a bank want to look at SAT scores taken when you were a 17 year old kid? How fucking pathetic, "we only take people with 1500+ SAT's, we're so cool" - yeah I guess people with 1000 - 1499 SAT's are so fucking retarded they cant do a dumbass job like investment banking that requires no skill at all. Fuck you might as well ask people what they got on their PSAT, just as equally worthless information for a resume.
This is why you come off as a joke. He wanted to know how the employer would view putting his SAT scores on...he doesn't care if Der Bankier thinks its "fucking pathetic" for a bank to care. You shouldn't advise against him putting his score on because YOU think it's unimportant.
And Der Bankier, the kind of boutique that takes kids that have never taken the ACT/SAT isn't really comparable to a BB.
I still don't understand why someone would be so pathetic to waste their time here if they didn't want to do banking.
This is why you come off as a joke. He wanted to know how the employer would view putting his SAT scores on...he doesn't care if Der Bankier thinks its "fucking pathetic" for a bank to care. You shouldn't advise against him putting his score on because YOU think it's unimportant.
And at boutiques and MM banks they wouldn't give a shit about a test you took in high school.
And Der Bankier, the kind of boutique that takes kids that have never taken the ACT/SAT isn't really comparable to a BB.
He never asked about the BB. BB is only about 10 or so banks, there are a hell of a lot more I-banks out there that aren't BB.
I still don't understand why someone would be so pathetic to waste their time here if they didn't want to do banking.
I do banking, just not this ultra douche "prestigious" GS/MS/ML etc shit. I get more deal exposure in a week at a no name regional investment bank than a 3rd year analyst would ever see at in the BB.
don't put your SAT score on your resume, but be prepared to be asked for your SAT score in an interview.
i didn't put mine on my resume but I was asked at every single first, second, and final round interview at BB and lesser banks.
and be prepared to try to justify your poor math score if you didn't score above 700 in that section. if you're like me (a humanities major), they will want to see that you are actually capable of the quantitative aspect of the job.
I see tons of SAT scores on the resumes I look through. Lots of them are 1500 or 1520 or whatever. This doesn't really impress me; it even goes so far as to make them look kind of loserly when I see plenty of 1560s and 1570s out there.
I would only put an SAT on a resume if I was fairly certain it was going to beat pretty much everybody else's. I got a perfect score on the ACT's and put it on my resume when I was a sophomore, but by the time I was a junior one of the guys interviewing me had told me to just leave it off. If you got a 1600 or a 1580 or something in that league, go ahead and put it on; I'll be impressed. If not, leave it off.
Lame question: putting SAT score on a resume (Originally Posted: 12/24/2010)
I was working on some applications and I saw that some of them ask for SAT reasoning scores to be put on resumes (laaame).
I don't have much room left on my resume, and I think SAT scores are too lame to have their own line, so I was wondering if it would be okay to put something like this:
XXX University
Bachelor of Arts in Economics
Cumulative GPA: XXX (space) Departmental GPA: XXX (space) SAT Reasoning: 2290 (800 Math)
blah blah
My concern is that I'm not splitting up the score into all of its components, but I have no trouble letting them worry about how CR + Writing adds up to 1490 (it was actually a 720 CR and 770 Writing) since math is probably the most important one for banking firms...
It's a good score, with a good math breakout - you'll be fine putting just the total, total and math as you have, or total and full breakout. Don't overthink it.
Yeah, like that make it all bold. Change Departmental to Major and just put SAT not SAT Reasoning.
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yea thats a strong score, def put it. idk how people do it on that test. I can get an A on any calculus and differential equations test but can't get close to an 800 on the sat. f that test
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I put my SAT score with the breakdown and total in a bullet point underneath my GPA as a part of the education section of my resume. Most banks I interviewed with made some sort of positive comment about it, so I'm assuming they like to see that, at least for entry level positions.
How do they go about checking on this? I never thought to put an SAT score on a resume but it seems like a decent idea, I just don't know how its verifiable.
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Include SAT on resume? (Originally Posted: 07/01/2010)
Hi,
I was wondering if my complete SAT score should be included on my resume. I am a rising sophomore at a target school. I have a near perfect score for the critical reading and math portions of the SAT, but my writing section is pretty terrible. If I only list my CR and M scores on my resume will interviewers ask questions because of the recent SAT format change? Thanks in advance for your replies and help.
Well, my combined CR and M is 1580/1600 but my writing is in the 600s. Do you think it will raise a red flag with interviewers if I leave out the writing score and list only the 1580/1600? Thanks for your quick response.
Your total score or probably around a 2230 or so (assuming a 650 reading) is a solid score, and can be put on your resume. Since you are early in your career and many firms will want to see your SAT anyway, I would include it. If your score were lower, I would leave it off, but your score is solid - just don't give the breakout and it will look really good. If they ask you for the breakdown, they would have asked you for the score anyway, so you weren't going to be hiding anything.
I'm a summer analyst at a boutique ib. How does this experience look on my resume as a rising sophomore?
I'm staffed on a live deal and doing a lot of pitchbooking, due diligence, CapIQ, but not too much modeling yet. Any recommendations on what type of tasks I should be aiming for?
I have the same problem. I think I'm going to just list the complete score out of 2400 and mention the higher scores only. Like this: SAT: 22X0; 800 Verbal, 780 Math.
I have the same problem. I think I'm going to just list the complete score out of 2400 and mention the higher scores only. Like this: SAT: 22X0; 800 Verbal, 780 Math.
Well, your interviewers are good at math too and will instantly know your writing score by subtracting the difference. I guess it depends on the interviewer if they would bother to care, but the total and only partial breakdown will look inconsistent. Best route is to just put total and focus on your work experience, thats what they look for - everything else is just distraction or validation.
I have the same problem. I think I'm going to just list the complete score out of 2400 and mention the higher scores only. Like this: SAT: 22X0; 800 Verbal, 780 Math.
LOL do you think that you are innovative for thinking that up? Sure you can mention just the higher scores, but then you will be proving the score that you got in the SAT--that you suck at writing.
people on here act like it even determines whether they get an interview or not
its a test you took in your junior year of high school
I disagree... as a college grad last year I was asked about SAT scores by a few places before interviews and during. This is all after providing my college GPA and transcript.
Virtually every recruiter who has come to my school has strongly encouraged putting SAT scores on the resume. Also clashed with my feelings on leaving off hs stuff but probably worth going along with it
Leave it off. People will ask for when you get the interview if they want to know it. I stopped putting my GPA on my resume after i was out of scool for a year... let alone SATs. Be ready to give I t though, I had 3 out of 6 ib interviews (mm and boutique ) ask
Depends on where you are. If you are still in college by all means do. Also ofcourse if it is high. If its sub 2100 I personally wouldnt.
I wasnt a fan of putting it but many people insisted and tbh I had a really good score and a perfect Math so I put it there. In brackets also specify Math score.
I am surprised some people a year or 2 out of college still put it.
I applied for SEO (probably the best diversity organization for IBD) and they asked for my scores lol. Maybe I will just take the GMAT and put that. It is a lot more relevant.
Should I include a 1600 SAT on my resume? (Originally Posted: 12/21/2010)
So I have seen a couple resumes with SAT scores listed. I got a 1600...out of 2400. Is there any way I can just say "SAT Score: 1600" on my resume? I mean, they never check up on these things and technically I am not lying.
The only problem is that by including it you open yourself up to the question of what your subsection scores were, and if you straight out say you had a perfect in both Math and Reading they're gonna be inclined to check. If you own up to your deceitfulness, bad case for you.
Might want to leave it off altogether. It isn't a make-or-break inclusion on a resume, you're in college so a GPA there is more significant of a factor.
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Leave it off. If you get caught in this lie, you're pretty much automatically dinged. And it's going to be pretty easy to tell, because you're young enough that people will know you weren't around for the 1600/1600 SAT.
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Listing SAT Score on Resume (Originally Posted: 01/20/2013)
Hey, new member here. I go to a major target and am looking for some internships/experience. Some people I know have told me to include my SAT score of 2400. I feel like if I include it I'll come off as a pretentious douche. Anyone wanna shred some light on this?
Hey what do you mean by "if math is higher break it out in there"? If the score is 2400 wouldn't it be a little excessive to say Math: 800 CR: 800 Writing 800?
I listed my math scores. 790 as well as APBC calc scores (only if its a 5..). I don't know; I'm a non-business major at a school where recruiters heavily focus on the bschool kids. They all suck at math though so listing mine I thought was a good idea. Got pointed out during an interview actually
From a non target perspective, it can be an equalizer of sorts. There are people who think that kids at Wharton or Harvard or whatever will always have better clock speed and trajectory than some Harvard kid.
For me, throwing my SAT on there was a subtle way of saying, "I could have gone to [insert school here], but I didn't for [insert reasons here]; [here's why you should still give me a shot]"
It really does not work that way. I scored very, very well on the SAT and was not even close to getting into Harvard or Wharton. No one is going to buy that; you should prepare something else to say.
I hear putting SATs on resumes is the new cool thing to do...what is the general cutoff for putting it on? I'm not exactly looking at huge internships (yet)...I have a 740 verbal, 750 math, and 790 writing. Should I put all of that on? What about the 2280 total?
oh I'm coming from Cornell which I guess is a semi-target or something...and I agree, how do they check SAT scores? I have no clue how I would obtain them again...
So I've been building my resume and from what I've seen on this forum, it seems standard to put your SAT score on your resume? I go to a semi-target school and the resume template they provide for us doesn't include SAT score so I was a bit confused about that. Also, if I do put my SAT score, do I put my highest combined score (I took the SAT twice)? Also, should I include my SATII math and SATII physics scores?
Yeah include all of those if they are good (above 700 per section), as as long as you are still in undergrad and you have space on your resume. Interviewers tended to be impressed particularly with my Physics SAT II score, so yeah keep them on there.
Just make sure that if you are listing SAT's under a high school section, to keep that section brief.
If your scores are good, definitely include them. I listed mine (I did well) and definitely believe they helped to get me interviews - people even commented on it once I got in. I even know of a couple PE shops that have SAT cutoffs (as dumb as that is).
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It won't get you any interviews... most applicants will have at least a 1450. Still, most banks expect it on there, otherwise, they'll assume that you did terrible.
If your score is not that good, I would recommend taking the GMAT and scoring a 750+. Put that on there instead of the SAT and it will be a lot more attention grabbing and impressive (if you are applying for analyst positions).
That being said, should I include my SAT on my resume so recruiters don't make immediate assumptions about my intellect...coming from non ranked/no name/ non target?
it won't make a difference either way honestly considering your gpa vs sat score. but if you do put it on your resume, break it out since math is higher than the rest.
I honestly don't think you should. While your SAT is impressive relative to the peers at your current uni, to the analyst/associate that you will (if lucky) be interviewed by, it will only be more reason to disqualify you on a prestige/non-target bias. A lot of the analysts/associates will be from target schools and will have scored at least 2100+ to get into those Ivys/etc...They will not consider sub-2100 an impressive feat, and might even look down on it.
Just my .02. I definitely experienced GPA/SAT/uni elitism during the recruiting process.
As Mountain said, I likely wouldnt put it on. If anything maybe only Math. Rather than put the SATs on your resume, just be ready to explain why you're at your current school - that will matter more.
You only include SAT scores if you're gonna brag about them. So...
Look at it this way. Say I'm screening your resume, see the non-target school and then the 'ok but not great' SAT score, my first two questions as an interviewer are "Why do you go to X school?" and "What happened on your SAT?"
I think the average Harvard SAT score is like 2200something? So if your score is actually below average for the kids you're competing against, you're just shooting yourself in the foot by including it and opening yourself to criticism.
Most important is Math. I would only put it if over 730 or 740 as long as your CR doesn't suck b/c they will think you bombed CR if you don't put it too.
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More straight to the point, on my resume right now I have SAT: 2130.
I have a 710 on all three so don't really think its necessary to break down
Should I leave it on there or take it off?
I know it shouldn't matter than much either way but just interested
Study and take it again. It's good practice for the GMAT and you might meet a few junior high school girls about to turn 18....
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Here is my personal rule. If your overall score is above 1400, then include it, regardless of the breakdown. Yes, even if you have a 800/610 include it. If your scores are both even and above 1350, then you can include that as well. i.e 690/690.
If you're only a sophomore and you really know it as well as you say, you bet your ass it's worth it to take it again. Putting up a perfect score on math is an excellent way to skip over a lot of the mental math questions other SA interviewees might get
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Wow, who are these people advising taking the SAT's again? That's retarded. If I see some idiot with a stated SAT score from 2010 but they finished college in 2011. I would be like WFT?!
You don't have enough to do in college but to waste the time and money to take the SAT again?
Seriously go study the GMAT or join a club become a leader/officer. That looks a lot better than a SAT score from many years ago, especially if you already go to a Target.
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I know this question has come up before. But I was wondering people's opinion on this specific circumstance.
I had a 1450 (it looks more impressive when I say its 2240), so should I be listing this on a resume? I know its a good score, but for target schools and specifically banking it seems fairly average.
And since they aren't quite asshole-level scores I'm worried it might be seen as an impolitic move when submitting a resume to the more elite firms. However, at my school these scores place me in about the 80th percentile or so.
the cutoff for most elite firms is 1350. slap it on. it will not set u apart, it is simply a filter, just as those with no prior internships are filtered out.
A 2240 wouldn't seem more impressive to me than a 1450, but that's probably because having never taken the new SAT I can't readily calibrate the adjusted score.
Makes me wonder whether this confuses non-HR people that come across the new SAT scores on candidates' resumes.
Well, its 2240 of 2400, so I think at face value it looks better because total goes up by 800 but the differential between my score and perfect only goes up by 10.
I definitely think people are somewhat irked by the new SAT score range tho, and it'd probably be less confusing to just list the sum of math and verbal.
Would it be acceptable to list it out of 1600 instead of 2400? I am heavily inclined to list it out of 1600, since it looks more impressive, but then again it might look like I'm hiding my writing score or something.
Maybe i'll just write it like: XXXX/1600 SAT, XXX Writing or something.
PleaseHireMe I would definitely list it and spell out the Math score individually as well, since that shows that you should easily be able to handle any of the math you'd find in Banking.
If you list it as SAT Math: 800 SAT Verbal: 800, you will be fine.
And honestly, the SAT score is just a means of filtering resumes, so making it 800 M and 800 V as opposed 2350/2400 will not give you any measurable competitive advantage as you have cleared the HR minimum regardless
i think it would be better if you included you SAT 2 math score if that's good because it shows that your math skills at a higher level are impressive.
i think it would be better if you included you SAT 2 math score if that's good because it shows that your math skills at a higher level are impressive.
Clearly, the "cut-off" depends on firm. No need to start another argument about which arbitrary number is most important.
I've always said to put it on there if it's 1400+ and you don't have a great GPA. If you're GPA is stellar and you didn't knock the SAT out of the park, then why put it on there. On the other hand, if your GPA is subpar, put it on the resume to offer the interviewer some numerical, albeit imperfect, assurance of intelligence.
Keep in mind most kids going into banking were at the top of their HS class, had SAT tutors, and did very well on their SATs, leading me to conclude that the chance of anyone being "WOWed" by your 1350 (insert any # below perfect) is low.
list it as SAT Math: 800, Verbal: 750, and if you want SAT 2 Math 2C: 800 or something. SAT is just one line. Don't make a big deal, if its a good score put it on.
MBA student interviewing for full time, should I include SAT scores? (Originally Posted: 10/18/2009)
Hey there,
I've been out of undergrad for a number of years. I took the SAT about a decade ago. I'm interviewing for full time associate positions right now as an MBA student. I did very well on the SATs and I was wondering if i should bother including the scores? 800 Math 1 and 2, 800 writing, 780 verbal.
I'd include them. It's not going to hurt, and it's not taking up much space either. What is it--one line on your CV? If you're cutting something else to make room for it, don't include the scores, but if you're looking for 'filler,' SAT scores trumps 'high school yearbook editor' any day of the week.
my only reservation about it would be that it happened so long ago. people are all about what have you done for me lately and this is like me holding onto the old glory days which no longer exist?
I wouldn't include SAT II, that truly is living in the past. It won't hurt to include SAT score though; I don't think it needs its own line, but it could certainly share space with something else from undergraduate (probably GPA, if you're including that)
I wouldn't include your SAT unless 1) you couple it on a line with your U Grad GPA and 2) have your GMAT listed with your B school. If you have your SAT listed and not your GMAT score, it will look a bit funny - sort of like you are relying on the distant past as a means of remedying your poor performance in the present.
Technically, if you have your GMAT on there, and it is strong, you don't need your SAT - if, however, you just want to include it to avoid any potential questions (though I don't see many arising), feel free to include it as long as you stick with the 2 above conditions.
So in high school I got a legitimate, single-sitting, zero-questions-wrong 2400 on the SAT. I will be a sophomore at a target this fall, and would like to be able to land an internship in trading/Asset Management/consulting/HF world (unrealistic but I can dream) next summer. How much will this help me? I've gotten mixed reviews so far.
You've gotten mixed reviews? I have no idea how getting a perfect score could hurt you. It'll help you quite a bit if you have the grades to back it up. I'd say that if you have a 3.6 and above you should be pretty competitive for most internships even as a sophomore.
It is a really amazing accomplishment, but if you are worried about looking to nerdy or that "normal" people will ding you, you can just put the 800 Math score.
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I think that as long as you have some social activity that proves you not to be an obese antisocial nerd, you are sitting on a very strong base.
I agree with this. The only way perfect scores can hurt you is if someone assumes you are some super nerd that only speaks Klingon. Make sure you have some of the social activities/hobbies that you partake in on you resume but DON'T, I repeat DON'T, put it on their if it has anything to do with online gaming or Dungeons and Dragons.
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The score is just fine (perfect) so I would put it on the resume. Just make sure you are down-to-earth and in touch with reality in the interview so you remove all possible doubt of being a shut-in. It can be said that there is a stigma with the "perfect" applicants being the odd shut-in types that speak in cryptic tongues.
I'm struggling to believe that you aced the SAT with a question like this...the only way it could hurt you is if you don't pull the strong grades to back it up, because you then just look lazy. Do whatever you have to do, including working for free, to get an internship to show that not only are you smart, but motivated.
It's a pretty cool accomplishment. A 2400 means even more than a 1600 did back in the day, too. I'm guessing most of your friends don't know about your score because you don't want to intimidate them, but this is something that you can't be modest/quiet about when it comes to your resume and marketing yourself to employers. Also, it's possible to get an 800 on a section even if you miss a question or two.
A perfect score gets you an interview at most places- even from a non-target state school (assuming there's a clear reason for a smart person to go there), but it doesn't get you a job. You will be expected to come off as competent and intelligent in an interview- something that can be hard for a sophomore or a junior without a lot of experience interviewing. It may also be helpful to network- the trick here is that you have to do it without shoving your score in everyones' face.
It's a pretty cool accomplishment. A 2400 means even more than a 1600 did back in the day, too. I'm guessing most of your friends don't know about your score because you don't want to intimidate them, but this is something that you can't be modest/quiet about when it comes to your resume and marketing yourself to employers. Also, it's possible to get an 800 on a section even if you miss a question or two.
A perfect score gets you an interview at most places- even from a non-target state school (assuming there's a clear reason for a smart person to go there), but it doesn't get you a job. You will be expected to come off as competent and intelligent in an interview- something that can be hard for a sophomore or a junior without a lot of experience interviewing. It may also be helpful to network- the trick here is that you have to do it without shoving your score in everyones' face.
I go to a nontarget state school (Ohio State) and want to do ibanking. I did not get a 2400 on my SAT, however I did get an 800 in math on the SAT and a 36 in math and science on the ACT when I took them in 6th grade. Should I put that on my resume or is that too old/irrelevant? Thanks.
Of course put it on your resume. A 2400 is incredible. The better question is whether you want to put 0 questions wrong on the resume too. That is exceptionally rare but maybe be pushing the douche boundaries.
If you used the score for college, it's ok to put it on your resume. Just give your verbal and/or overall score, too.
Sorry, I didn't word my question clearly. I got those scores in 6th grade, but I didnt do good on english or verbal or grammar. When I took it again in high school, I got pretty good scores but nothing worth noting on my resume. Should I put that I got a perfect score in math and science on the SAT and ACT in 6th grade or does that just make me look like a douche? Also, another thing, I learned basic calculus in 5th grade (i.e. basic derivatives, integrals, and optimization stuff). I want to convey that to interviewers/recruiters to let them know I have an analytical mindset and am good with numbers, how do I bring that up without looking like a douche? Thanks man.
i don't think it matters. Unless you got over 1500 or something... that was high-school. You don't put on your resume as a junior that you were part of the hs tennis team, do you?
i don't think it matters. Unless you got over 1500 or something... that was high-school. You don't put on your resume as a junior that you were part of the hs tennis team, do you?
It depends. One of my old MDs always wanted to see SAT scores on candidates' resumes... Others, don't care. If it's a good score, there's nothing to lose
Possibly worth including for you since you go to a non-target. Not worth including if you go to a target - the people reading your resume will assume that you did fairly well on the SAT if you are there. They care much, much more about your GPA and extracurricular activities.
depends, most banks ask for them... at least at my school (a target school), 1400 is decent, depending on which division you wanna go into... its good enough for ops, but probably average for S&T
Thanks everyone for your responses, I really appreciate your help. I attached my resume to another thread; I would really appreciate any and all feedback.
wavelink12 - that's stupid (not you, but rather the MD). If a kid goes to an Ivy and has a good GPA and extracurriculars (especially if the extracurriculars aren't sports) and doesn't include his/her GPA, assuming the kid did poorly on the SAT is just dumb...
wavelink12 - that's stupid (not you, but rather the MD). If a kid goes to an Ivy and has a good GPA and extracurriculars (especially if the extracurriculars aren't sports) and doesn't include his/her GPA, assuming the kid did poorly on the SAT is just dumb...
I am going to assume you simply lack attention to detail, and your second "GPA" was meant to be "SAT score," and reply to you under that corollary.
It is not stupid at all, kids can get in to Ivy schools and succeed without doing well on the SAT. True, they may be more intelligent than their SAT score indicates, but it seems perfectly reasonable to assume only poor scores are left off; why would you omit a good score? As the SAT is the only playing field on which candidates can be compared in an unbiased, quantitative analysis, I hope you can see why it matters.
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don't put it on your resume unless they ask for it, unless you scored above a 1500.
so if you have above a 1500 go for it? also should i also put down the breakdown?
if you have above 1500 I'd say put it down. ONLY put the breakdown if your math score was above 700. If your math was below 700, just list the cumulative provided it is above 1500.
correct me if I'm wrong, but even if one would get an 800 on verbal, that would leave at least a 700 on math for a 1500. :)
Lol, exactly what I was thinking.
i don't think roller broke 700 on the math
Does anyone else who's screened resumes for an IB think SAT scores make a candidate look lame?
I hate seeing SAT scores on resumes- showing me you got a 700+ on math just tells me you know 9th grade math. The kid comes off to me as a dbag if he puts it on there--just what I think when I look through resumes.
Leave it off.
I really do think it's a bad move; it's very high school (literally and figuratively).
You should focus on impressing recruiters with what have you done in the past three years rather then what you done the second semester of your junior year in high school.
i might take mine off, but i've generally left it on b/c so many companies ask for it and it hasn't seemed to be a problem
... but I'm from a non-target that has been networking to get my resume through to a few BBs. Anyway, the alumni I talked to (a few VPs and MDs) all told me to make sure to include my SATs if they were above 1500. A couple of the BBs web sites specifically recommend putting on a good SAT score if you are in a non-quantative major. A decent percent of the online applications specifically ask for your SAT score. And a recruiter at one of the BBs specifically recommended that I include my scores if they were good.
Obviously a few analysts strongly disagree, but unfortunatly it seems like there is no right answer about this. It would appear as if you have more to lose by including them if you come from a target. Coming from a non-target, it serves as some sort of equalizer in comparing verbal/math skills to the ivy kids...though, i guess not everyone agrees.
I don't like seeing SAT scores on students from target schools because it doesn't add any real value (and appears high schoolish as someone mentioned). If you go to Harvard/Wharton and the like, I know you did well on the SAT, no need to list it out there.
Different story for non-targets. If you go to a small school/not so great public school, put it on there. Then I would assume you are a genuine smart kid who didn't go to a target school for personal reasons (and not because you couldn't get in).
So, general rule, at least for me: target=no SAT score and non-target= yes (if its good)
Put it on.
SAT = college admissions, not post-college career admissions, what a retarded question.
You are an idiot. Are you such a loser that you want nothing to do with banking but you waste your time on this board? It's obvious from the above posts that there are times when you should include your SATs. Goldman Sachs (among others)asks for your scores on their online applications..and I already mentioned the people who told me to do it. Hell, some places REQUIRE it (at DE Shaw they only interview people with 1500+ for some positions...so it DOES matter for some post-college career admissions). Why would you give advice on something you know NOTHING about?
I have had an internship at a boutique before, they never asked for an SAT, hell some kids never even took the SAT/ACT, I never took them and still went to college. Why the fuck would a bank want to look at SAT scores taken when you were a 17 year old kid? How fucking pathetic, "we only take people with 1500+ SAT's, we're so cool" - yeah I guess people with 1000 - 1499 SAT's are so fucking retarded they cant do a dumbass job like investment banking that requires no skill at all. Fuck you might as well ask people what they got on their PSAT, just as equally worthless information for a resume.
Have you even worked in banking?
This is why you come off as a joke. He wanted to know how the employer would view putting his SAT scores on...he doesn't care if Der Bankier thinks its "fucking pathetic" for a bank to care. You shouldn't advise against him putting his score on because YOU think it's unimportant.
And Der Bankier, the kind of boutique that takes kids that have never taken the ACT/SAT isn't really comparable to a BB.
I still don't understand why someone would be so pathetic to waste their time here if they didn't want to do banking.
And yes, I have summered at a boutique bank.
And at boutiques and MM banks they wouldn't give a shit about a test you took in high school.
He never asked about the BB. BB is only about 10 or so banks, there are a hell of a lot more I-banks out there that aren't BB.
I do banking, just not this ultra douche "prestigious" GS/MS/ML etc shit. I get more deal exposure in a week at a no name regional investment bank than a 3rd year analyst would ever see at in the BB.
Der Bankier, why does your profile state that you're a prospective monkey?
don't put your SAT score on your resume, but be prepared to be asked for your SAT score in an interview.
i didn't put mine on my resume but I was asked at every single first, second, and final round interview at BB and lesser banks.
and be prepared to try to justify your poor math score if you didn't score above 700 in that section. if you're like me (a humanities major), they will want to see that you are actually capable of the quantitative aspect of the job.
Neither :)
Cool. Midwest? Just curious. I'm sitting here at work waiting for my "ass"ocitate to get back to me.
Yeah, Chicago.
It'll be hours before your fuck-head associate shows up. Just cruise the internet and when someone walks by alt-tab excel up, that's what I did.
I see tons of SAT scores on the resumes I look through. Lots of them are 1500 or 1520 or whatever. This doesn't really impress me; it even goes so far as to make them look kind of loserly when I see plenty of 1560s and 1570s out there.
I would only put an SAT on a resume if I was fairly certain it was going to beat pretty much everybody else's. I got a perfect score on the ACT's and put it on my resume when I was a sophomore, but by the time I was a junior one of the guys interviewing me had told me to just leave it off. If you got a 1600 or a 1580 or something in that league, go ahead and put it on; I'll be impressed. If not, leave it off.
Lame question: putting SAT score on a resume (Originally Posted: 12/24/2010)
I was working on some applications and I saw that some of them ask for SAT reasoning scores to be put on resumes (laaame).
I don't have much room left on my resume, and I think SAT scores are too lame to have their own line, so I was wondering if it would be okay to put something like this:
XXX University Bachelor of Arts in Economics Cumulative GPA: XXX (space) Departmental GPA: XXX (space) SAT Reasoning: 2290 (800 Math) blah blah
My concern is that I'm not splitting up the score into all of its components, but I have no trouble letting them worry about how CR + Writing adds up to 1490 (it was actually a 720 CR and 770 Writing) since math is probably the most important one for banking firms...
Just put it if you have space. Shows that your intelligent.
It's a good score, with a good math breakout - you'll be fine putting just the total, total and math as you have, or total and full breakout. Don't overthink it.
Check out this article for more: http://www.bankonbanking.com/2010/07/07/sats-gmats-and-lsats-oh-my/
Yeah, like that make it all bold. Change Departmental to Major and just put SAT not SAT Reasoning.
yea thats a strong score, def put it. idk how people do it on that test. I can get an A on any calculus and differential equations test but can't get close to an 800 on the sat. f that test
I put my SAT score with the breakdown and total in a bullet point underneath my GPA as a part of the education section of my resume. Most banks I interviewed with made some sort of positive comment about it, so I'm assuming they like to see that, at least for entry level positions.
How do they go about checking on this? I never thought to put an SAT score on a resume but it seems like a decent idea, I just don't know how its verifiable.
Thanks guys - changed SAT Reasoning to SAT and I think I'll just keep it like that. It'll look ugly if I give it its own line I think.
Just put: GPA: X.XX/4.00 (ALWAYS use two decimals) SAT: 1520/1600 (Don't do out of 2400, no one is concerned about writing)
Include SAT on resume? (Originally Posted: 07/01/2010)
Hi,
I was wondering if my complete SAT score should be included on my resume. I am a rising sophomore at a target school. I have a near perfect score for the critical reading and math portions of the SAT, but my writing section is pretty terrible. If I only list my CR and M scores on my resume will interviewers ask questions because of the recent SAT format change? Thanks in advance for your replies and help.
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Well, my combined CR and M is 1580/1600 but my writing is in the 600s. Do you think it will raise a red flag with interviewers if I leave out the writing score and list only the 1580/1600? Thanks for your quick response.
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Yea, that was what I was worried about. I don't think recruiters and resume screeners pay too much attention to the writing section, do they?
Your total score or probably around a 2230 or so (assuming a 650 reading) is a solid score, and can be put on your resume. Since you are early in your career and many firms will want to see your SAT anyway, I would include it. If your score were lower, I would leave it off, but your score is solid - just don't give the breakout and it will look really good. If they ask you for the breakdown, they would have asked you for the score anyway, so you weren't going to be hiding anything.
I'm a summer analyst at a boutique ib. How does this experience look on my resume as a rising sophomore?
I'm staffed on a live deal and doing a lot of pitchbooking, due diligence, CapIQ, but not too much modeling yet. Any recommendations on what type of tasks I should be aiming for?
I have the same problem. I think I'm going to just list the complete score out of 2400 and mention the higher scores only. Like this: SAT: 22X0; 800 Verbal, 780 Math.
Well, your interviewers are good at math too and will instantly know your writing score by subtracting the difference. I guess it depends on the interviewer if they would bother to care, but the total and only partial breakdown will look inconsistent. Best route is to just put total and focus on your work experience, thats what they look for - everything else is just distraction or validation.
LOL do you think that you are innovative for thinking that up? Sure you can mention just the higher scores, but then you will be proving the score that you got in the SAT--that you suck at writing.
no one recruiting cares about your sat
people on here act like it even determines whether they get an interview or not
its a test you took in your junior year of high school
I disagree... as a college grad last year I was asked about SAT scores by a few places before interviews and during. This is all after providing my college GPA and transcript.
LOl It's frustrating how people are always trying to find faults against you instead of basing their opinions on your positive characteristics.
Do I need to put SAT scores on my resume (Originally Posted: 09/01/2015)
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I wouldn't include it if I were you - try to possibly retake it if you have nothing else going on.
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Virtually every recruiter who has come to my school has strongly encouraged putting SAT scores on the resume. Also clashed with my feelings on leaving off hs stuff but probably worth going along with it
Leave it off. People will ask for when you get the interview if they want to know it. I stopped putting my GPA on my resume after i was out of scool for a year... let alone SATs. Be ready to give I t though, I had 3 out of 6 ib interviews (mm and boutique ) ask
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College Board will still have the score saved if you care to look it up...
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Depends on where you are. If you are still in college by all means do. Also ofcourse if it is high. If its sub 2100 I personally wouldnt.
I wasnt a fan of putting it but many people insisted and tbh I had a really good score and a perfect Math so I put it there. In brackets also specify Math score.
I am surprised some people a year or 2 out of college still put it.
I applied for SEO (probably the best diversity organization for IBD) and they asked for my scores lol. Maybe I will just take the GMAT and put that. It is a lot more relevant.
Should I include a 1600 SAT on my resume? (Originally Posted: 12/21/2010)
So I have seen a couple resumes with SAT scores listed. I got a 1600...out of 2400. Is there any way I can just say "SAT Score: 1600" on my resume? I mean, they never check up on these things and technically I am not lying.
Outstanding.
"What did you get on the math section?"
Did you work for Enron?
The only problem is that by including it you open yourself up to the question of what your subsection scores were, and if you straight out say you had a perfect in both Math and Reading they're gonna be inclined to check. If you own up to your deceitfulness, bad case for you.
Might want to leave it off altogether. It isn't a make-or-break inclusion on a resume, you're in college so a GPA there is more significant of a factor.
Leave it off. If you get caught in this lie, you're pretty much automatically dinged. And it's going to be pretty easy to tell, because you're young enough that people will know you weren't around for the 1600/1600 SAT.
Wow... Just... Wow...
Troll
hahaha
As CaptK said it would be pretty obvious based on your age that you were not around for the old SAT.
Definitely put it. You can cross that bridge if it comes up in an interview.
yeah, put it, put - you CAN get blackballed by all the banks you know - but put it anyway - will make a great urban legend
I doubt anyone is going to ask "1600/1600? or 2400?"
If they do, you are screwed. But probably not
facepalm
Listing SAT Score on Resume (Originally Posted: 01/20/2013)
Hey, new member here. I go to a major target and am looking for some internships/experience. Some people I know have told me to include my SAT score of 2400. I feel like if I include it I'll come off as a pretentious douche. Anyone wanna shred some light on this?
Include it if it is that high.
Pretentious Douche? You want to work on Wall Street where you'll be working with ... pretentious douches. Would be a +++++++++++
Remember to avoid having them as roomates when you get into the street though. Avg Wall Street guy has ugly gf/wives. Not cool.
Good luck player.
Ok, so just have 1 line for the SAT. How about IB diploma recipient? And no one gives a shit about SAT II's / AP scores right?
Thanks
Whats an IB diploma recipient? If its some sort of extra curricular then just a quick line item under the school or in your interests/other.
yeah just place the SAT number next to your GPA. GPA first though (also if math is higher break it out in there too).
In first rounds lots of guys will ask what your SAT score is anyway so may as well have it there.
Hey what do you mean by "if math is higher break it out in there"? If the score is 2400 wouldn't it be a little excessive to say Math: 800 CR: 800 Writing 800?
Yeah just left that comment for other readers. EG if someone had a 800 math and 700's in others I would break it out.
you add it if you think it matters... if you did 3 GS IB internships, then obviously it wouldn't add anything..
2400? Damn good stuff
I listed my math scores. 790 as well as AP BC calc scores (only if its a 5..). I don't know; I'm a non-business major at a school where recruiters heavily focus on the bschool kids. They all suck at math though so listing mine I thought was a good idea. Got pointed out during an interview actually
From a non target perspective, it can be an equalizer of sorts. There are people who think that kids at Wharton or Harvard or whatever will always have better clock speed and trajectory than some Harvard kid.
For me, throwing my SAT on there was a subtle way of saying, "I could have gone to [insert school here], but I didn't for [insert reasons here]; [here's why you should still give me a shot]"
It really does not work that way. I scored very, very well on the SAT and was not even close to getting into Harvard or Wharton. No one is going to buy that; you should prepare something else to say.
I would definitely put my SAT score if it was a 2400. Just list it under/near your GPA in a non-obnoxious way.
SAT on Resume (Originally Posted: 10/27/2010)
I hear putting SATs on resumes is the new cool thing to do...what is the general cutoff for putting it on? I'm not exactly looking at huge internships (yet)...I have a 740 verbal, 750 math, and 790 writing. Should I put all of that on? What about the 2280 total?
Just put the 2280/2400 and forget the breakdowns
Those scores are pretty solid. Certainly include them and break them down into m v w.
How do the banks verify your scores for FT hires? I listed mine (truthfully) but have completely forgotten the login to collegeboard.com
add them - if you're coming from a non-target (don't know if you are), it helps show that you've got the same basic brainpower as ivy kids
oh I'm coming from Cornell which I guess is a semi-target or something...and I agree, how do they check SAT scores? I have no clue how I would obtain them again...
SAT on resume (Originally Posted: 11/13/2009)
So I've been building my resume and from what I've seen on this forum, it seems standard to put your SAT score on your resume? I go to a semi-target school and the resume template they provide for us doesn't include SAT score so I was a bit confused about that. Also, if I do put my SAT score, do I put my highest combined score (I took the SAT twice)? Also, should I include my SATII math and SATII physics scores?
I have it on there to show some quant ability. If they are good why not.
Yeah include all of those if they are good (above 700 per section), as as long as you are still in undergrad and you have space on your resume. Interviewers tended to be impressed particularly with my Physics SAT II score, so yeah keep them on there.
Just make sure that if you are listing SAT's under a high school section, to keep that section brief.
Since I took the SAT twice, should I just put my highest scores from each section?
Yeah put your highest of each section.
If your scores are good, definitely include them. I listed mine (I did well) and definitely believe they helped to get me interviews - people even commented on it once I got in. I even know of a couple PE shops that have SAT cutoffs (as dumb as that is).
what about SAT II (subject test scores)? Is it common for candidates to have SAT II Math (level 2C) and/or SAT Physics scores?
SAT on Resume?? (Originally Posted: 02/01/2008)
Should it be put on the resume? Does it depend on the type of position I'm applying for? Should it depend on the score? Thank you in advance.
I put mine on my resume, I consider it an eyegrabber but I wouldnt even consider putting it on if it wasn't at LEAST a 1450.
Some places actually ask for it on the resume.
definitely put it if it is higher than 1500. 1450 is really good as well.
would stick on anything 1500+. Esp w/ a subpar GPA. Higher the GPA, the less the SAT matters.
It won't get you any interviews... most applicants will have at least a 1450. Still, most banks expect it on there, otherwise, they'll assume that you did terrible.
If your score is not that good, I would recommend taking the GMAT and scoring a 750+. Put that on there instead of the SAT and it will be a lot more attention grabbing and impressive (if you are applying for analyst positions).
What about a 1400?
I got a 1400 on my SAT I's 790 on Math IIC 760 on US History 700 on Writing
What should I list and what should I leave out?
no ne cares about uShistory and writing. 790 math IIC is the only hting uve got.
SAT on resume? (Originally Posted: 02/26/2013)
That being said, should I include my SAT on my resume so recruiters don't make immediate assumptions about my intellect...coming from non ranked/no name/ non target?
What kind of GPA do you have?
As of now I have 3.65
it won't make a difference either way honestly considering your gpa vs sat score. but if you do put it on your resume, break it out since math is higher than the rest.
I honestly don't think you should. While your SAT is impressive relative to the peers at your current uni, to the analyst/associate that you will (if lucky) be interviewed by, it will only be more reason to disqualify you on a prestige/non-target bias. A lot of the analysts/associates will be from target schools and will have scored at least 2100+ to get into those Ivys/etc...They will not consider sub-2100 an impressive feat, and might even look down on it.
Just my .02. I definitely experienced GPA/SAT/uni elitism during the recruiting process.
As Mountain said, I likely wouldnt put it on. If anything maybe only Math. Rather than put the SATs on your resume, just be ready to explain why you're at your current school - that will matter more.
I agree with MV also. Leave it off.
You only include SAT scores if you're gonna brag about them. So...
Look at it this way. Say I'm screening your resume, see the non-target school and then the 'ok but not great' SAT score, my first two questions as an interviewer are "Why do you go to X school?" and "What happened on your SAT?"
I think the average Harvard SAT score is like 2200something? So if your score is actually below average for the kids you're competing against, you're just shooting yourself in the foot by including it and opening yourself to criticism.
Yeah you guys are right. I will not put my SAT score on my resume. I am applying for few semi targets as a transfer and hoping for the best.
Also what are your thoughts on gmat score? If I manage to pull 750+?
SAT score on resume (Originally Posted: 03/08/2010)
What score range would be appropriate to put on your resume and at what point should it be left off unless asked?
Most important is Math. I would only put it if over 730 or 740 as long as your CR doesn't suck b/c they will think you bombed CR if you don't put it too.
More straight to the point, on my resume right now I have SAT: 2130. I have a 710 on all three so don't really think its necessary to break down Should I leave it on there or take it off?
I know it shouldn't matter than much either way but just interested
It depends on how much of a target your school is. A 2130 is borderline so unless you're at a top target, I'd keep it since it can't hurt.
Study and take it again. It's good practice for the GMAT and you might meet a few junior high school girls about to turn 18....
Bonus points if you can pull off trading "knowledge" in exchange for taking their tests.
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Same problem. I have 750 on math but bombed the CR (English not my native lang.). Should I retake?
Here is my personal rule. If your overall score is above 1400, then include it, regardless of the breakdown. Yes, even if you have a 800/610 include it. If your scores are both even and above 1350, then you can include that as well. i.e 690/690.
If you're only a sophomore and you really know it as well as you say, you bet your ass it's worth it to take it again. Putting up a perfect score on math is an excellent way to skip over a lot of the mental math questions other SA interviewees might get
are u guys serios? Stop trolling about retaking the SAT. If I were you, I would take the GMATs. Don't waste your time studying for the SATs.
Better yet, just take the CFA then.
Wow, who are these people advising taking the SAT's again? That's retarded. If I see some idiot with a stated SAT score from 2010 but they finished college in 2011. I would be like WFT?!
You don't have enough to do in college but to waste the time and money to take the SAT again?
Seriously go study the GMAT or join a club become a leader/officer. That looks a lot better than a SAT score from many years ago, especially if you already go to a Target.
SATs on Resume (Originally Posted: 05/07/2008)
I know this question has come up before. But I was wondering people's opinion on this specific circumstance.
I had a 1450 (it looks more impressive when I say its 2240), so should I be listing this on a resume? I know its a good score, but for target schools and specifically banking it seems fairly average.
And since they aren't quite asshole-level scores I'm worried it might be seen as an impolitic move when submitting a resume to the more elite firms. However, at my school these scores place me in about the 80th percentile or so.
Opinions?
the cutoff for most elite firms is 1350. slap it on. it will not set u apart, it is simply a filter, just as those with no prior internships are filtered out.
lol fuck i'm trying to get an internship
Put it on
A 2240 wouldn't seem more impressive to me than a 1450, but that's probably because having never taken the new SAT I can't readily calibrate the adjusted score.
Makes me wonder whether this confuses non-HR people that come across the new SAT scores on candidates' resumes.
Well, its 2240 of 2400, so I think at face value it looks better because total goes up by 800 but the differential between my score and perfect only goes up by 10.
I definitely think people are somewhat irked by the new SAT score range tho, and it'd probably be less confusing to just list the sum of math and verbal.
Where is this 1350 number coming from? It sounds completely made up.
^^ it is completely made up
Where would you list this information? Just next to GPA?
Would you list it for full time recruiting as well? (Not just banking...just finance jobs in general)
I got a 1470/1600. 770 Math 700 Verbal.
Thanks!
Would it be acceptable to list it out of 1600 instead of 2400? I am heavily inclined to list it out of 1600, since it looks more impressive, but then again it might look like I'm hiding my writing score or something.
Maybe i'll just write it like: XXXX/1600 SAT, XXX Writing or something.
Anyone disagree with that idea?
PleaseHireMe I would definitely list it and spell out the Math score individually as well, since that shows that you should easily be able to handle any of the math you'd find in Banking.
Lucaskhan,
If you list it as SAT Math: 800 SAT Verbal: 800, you will be fine.
And honestly, the SAT score is just a means of filtering resumes, so making it 800 M and 800 V as opposed 2350/2400 will not give you any measurable competitive advantage as you have cleared the HR minimum regardless
i think it would be better if you included you SAT 2 math score if that's good because it shows that your math skills at a higher level are impressive.
i think it would be better if you included you SAT 2 math score if that's good because it shows that your math skills at a higher level are impressive.
haha.....i always wondered if when I'm screening resumes someday, I'll see a 1600 and be impressed before I realize its out of 2400.
The kid worried about how to list his perfect score is an ass.
Clearly, the "cut-off" depends on firm. No need to start another argument about which arbitrary number is most important.
I've always said to put it on there if it's 1400+ and you don't have a great GPA. If you're GPA is stellar and you didn't knock the SAT out of the park, then why put it on there. On the other hand, if your GPA is subpar, put it on the resume to offer the interviewer some numerical, albeit imperfect, assurance of intelligence.
Keep in mind most kids going into banking were at the top of their HS class, had SAT tutors, and did very well on their SATs, leading me to conclude that the chance of anyone being "WOWed" by your 1350 (insert any # below perfect) is low.
list it as SAT Math: 800, Verbal: 750, and if you want SAT 2 Math 2C: 800 or something. SAT is just one line. Don't make a big deal, if its a good score put it on.
MBA student interviewing for full time, should I include SAT scores? (Originally Posted: 10/18/2009)
Hey there,
I've been out of undergrad for a number of years. I took the SAT about a decade ago. I'm interviewing for full time associate positions right now as an MBA student. I did very well on the SATs and I was wondering if i should bother including the scores? 800 Math 1 and 2, 800 writing, 780 verbal.
I'd include them. It's not going to hurt, and it's not taking up much space either. What is it--one line on your CV? If you're cutting something else to make room for it, don't include the scores, but if you're looking for 'filler,' SAT scores trumps 'high school yearbook editor' any day of the week.
my only reservation about it would be that it happened so long ago. people are all about what have you done for me lately and this is like me holding onto the old glory days which no longer exist?
They didn't even have a writing portion of the SAT a decade ago, did they?
you took it separately as an SAT 2 subject, but all the schools pretty much required it even then.
I wouldn't include SAT II, that truly is living in the past. It won't hurt to include SAT score though; I don't think it needs its own line, but it could certainly share space with something else from undergraduate (probably GPA, if you're including that)
I wouldn't include your SAT unless 1) you couple it on a line with your U Grad GPA and 2) have your GMAT listed with your B school. If you have your SAT listed and not your GMAT score, it will look a bit funny - sort of like you are relying on the distant past as a means of remedying your poor performance in the present.
Technically, if you have your GMAT on there, and it is strong, you don't need your SAT - if, however, you just want to include it to avoid any potential questions (though I don't see many arising), feel free to include it as long as you stick with the 2 above conditions.
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Perfect SAT Score (Originally Posted: 08/13/2010)
So in high school I got a legitimate, single-sitting, zero-questions-wrong 2400 on the SAT. I will be a sophomore at a target this fall, and would like to be able to land an internship in trading/Asset Management/consulting/HF world (unrealistic but I can dream) next summer. How much will this help me? I've gotten mixed reviews so far.
SlyGuy
You've gotten mixed reviews? I have no idea how getting a perfect score could hurt you. It'll help you quite a bit if you have the grades to back it up. I'd say that if you have a 3.6 and above you should be pretty competitive for most internships even as a sophomore.
It is a really amazing accomplishment, but if you are worried about looking to nerdy or that "normal" people will ding you, you can just put the 800 Math score.
I think that as long as you have some social activity that proves you not to be an obese antisocial nerd, you are sitting on a very strong base.
I agree with this. The only way perfect scores can hurt you is if someone assumes you are some super nerd that only speaks Klingon. Make sure you have some of the social activities/hobbies that you partake in on you resume but DON'T, I repeat DON'T, put it on their if it has anything to do with online gaming or Dungeons and Dragons.
Regards
The score is just fine (perfect) so I would put it on the resume. Just make sure you are down-to-earth and in touch with reality in the interview so you remove all possible doubt of being a shut-in. It can be said that there is a stigma with the "perfect" applicants being the odd shut-in types that speak in cryptic tongues.
I'm struggling to believe that you aced the SAT with a question like this...the only way it could hurt you is if you don't pull the strong grades to back it up, because you then just look lazy. Do whatever you have to do, including working for free, to get an internship to show that not only are you smart, but motivated.
It's a pretty cool accomplishment. A 2400 means even more than a 1600 did back in the day, too. I'm guessing most of your friends don't know about your score because you don't want to intimidate them, but this is something that you can't be modest/quiet about when it comes to your resume and marketing yourself to employers. Also, it's possible to get an 800 on a section even if you miss a question or two.
A perfect score gets you an interview at most places- even from a non-target state school (assuming there's a clear reason for a smart person to go there), but it doesn't get you a job. You will be expected to come off as competent and intelligent in an interview- something that can be hard for a sophomore or a junior without a lot of experience interviewing. It may also be helpful to network- the trick here is that you have to do it without shoving your score in everyones' face.
I go to a nontarget state school (Ohio State) and want to do ibanking. I did not get a 2400 on my SAT, however I did get an 800 in math on the SAT and a 36 in math and science on the ACT when I took them in 6th grade. Should I put that on my resume or is that too old/irrelevant? Thanks.
Of course put it on your resume. A 2400 is incredible. The better question is whether you want to put 0 questions wrong on the resume too. That is exceptionally rare but maybe be pushing the douche boundaries.
If you used the score for college, it's ok to put it on your resume. Just give your verbal and/or overall score, too.
Sorry, I didn't word my question clearly. I got those scores in 6th grade, but I didnt do good on english or verbal or grammar. When I took it again in high school, I got pretty good scores but nothing worth noting on my resume. Should I put that I got a perfect score in math and science on the SAT and ACT in 6th grade or does that just make me look like a douche? Also, another thing, I learned basic calculus in 5th grade (i.e. basic derivatives, integrals, and optimization stuff). I want to convey that to interviewers/recruiters to let them know I have an analytical mindset and am good with numbers, how do I bring that up without looking like a douche? Thanks man.
SAT Score - Junior at a non-target (Originally Posted: 03/15/2009)
I am a junior at a non-target and received a 1400 on the SAT, should I put that on my resume? If so where, under the Education portion?
yeah, put it on, 1400 isn't horrible. under education
i don't think it matters. Unless you got over 1500 or something... that was high-school. You don't put on your resume as a junior that you were part of the hs tennis team, do you?
We always ask for it. I'm not sure why but I think most of the other BB banks do as well.
that's interesting... I guess you find out something new everyday.
Possibly worth including for you since you go to a non-target. Not worth including if you go to a target - the people reading your resume will assume that you did fairly well on the SAT if you are there. They care much, much more about your GPA and extracurricular activities.
depends, most banks ask for them... at least at my school (a target school), 1400 is decent, depending on which division you wanna go into... its good enough for ops, but probably average for S&T
I was told by an associate at JPM recently that if you don't put it on resume, he assumes you did poorly...
Thanks everyone for your responses, I really appreciate your help. I attached my resume to another thread; I would really appreciate any and all feedback.
wavelink12 - that's stupid (not you, but rather the MD). If a kid goes to an Ivy and has a good GPA and extracurriculars (especially if the extracurriculars aren't sports) and doesn't include his/her GPA, assuming the kid did poorly on the SAT is just dumb...
I am going to assume you simply lack attention to detail, and your second "GPA" was meant to be "SAT score," and reply to you under that corollary.
It is not stupid at all, kids can get in to Ivy schools and succeed without doing well on the SAT. True, they may be more intelligent than their SAT score indicates, but it seems perfectly reasonable to assume only poor scores are left off; why would you omit a good score? As the SAT is the only playing field on which candidates can be compared in an unbiased, quantitative analysis, I hope you can see why it matters.
id be surprised if there were any students at ivy's that had below 1200 on their SAT's
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