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seabird
      PE
 
(King Kong, 1,558
 
Points)
 on 6/28/12 at 10:14am

Obamacare has been upheld as a tax but not as a penalty. Shitty day for the country.

“...all truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.” - Schopenhauer
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SirBarney's picture

Interesting to see what the

SirBarney
      O
 
(Gorilla, 505
 
Points)
 on 6/28/12 at 10:20am

Interesting to see what the opinions are...If it comes out 5-4, even more hell will break loose

EDIT: Turns out it was 5-4 with Roberts joining the liberals...interesting

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acrew09's picture

5-4, Roberts switched sides.

acrew09
      PE
 
(Senior Monkey, 93
 
Points)
 on 6/28/12 at 10:22am

5-4, Roberts switched sides.

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Addinator's picture

They can't force you to buy

Addinator
      AM
 
 
(Senior Gorilla, 958
 
Points)
 on 6/28/12 at 10:26am

They can't force you to buy it but they can tax you for not having it. Jesus. Christ.

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virtu333's picture

Very surprised by Roberts

virtu333
      IB
 
(Baboon, 128
 
Points)
 on 6/28/12 at 10:30am

Very surprised by Roberts switching sides

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TNA's picture

Obama increased taxes, that

TNA
      O
 
 
(Human, 13,711
 
Points)
 on 6/28/12 at 10:44am

Obama increased taxes, that is the ultimate take away. Sold this as not a tax when it was always a tax.

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BillyRay05's picture

Not a perfect law (although

BillyRay05
      ST
 
(Senior Baboon, 181
 
Points)
 on 6/28/12 at 10:48am

Not a perfect law (although it does make sure that insurance firms have to provide coverage to everyone despite ailment, and can't eye gauge people on price), but if you make it law for me to carry auto insurance, than I am not sure why this is any different... But then again, we would have to goto JDOasis for the proper play by play...

"Sounds to me like you guys a couple of bookies."

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Miamimonkey's picture

It's a great outcome, we are

Miamimonkey
     
 
(Monkey, 32
 
Points)
 on 6/28/12 at 10:49am

It's a great outcome, we are the leader of the world and we need all our people to have access to healthcare. Hospitals and healthcare providers are going to get a boost, less uninsured people to treat.
We are on the right track!

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wadtk's picture

Unlimited power.

wadtk
      AM
 
(Senior Baboon, 241
 
Points)
 on 6/28/12 at 10:49am

Unlimited power.

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WTF Roberts

Amphipathic
     
 
(Senior Gorilla, 833
 
Points)
 on 6/28/12 at 10:50am

WTF Roberts

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Proposition Joe's picture

Congrats to anyone who is

Proposition Joe
      ST
 
(Baboon, 111
 
Points)
 on 6/28/12 at 10:53am

Congrats to anyone who is long Hospital stocks

I'm like one of them marriage counselors. Charge by the hour to tell some fool he needa bring some flowers home. Then charge another hour telling the bitch she oughta suck some cock every little once in a while. Keep a marriage strong like that. -Prop Joe

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Amphipathic's picture

Time to look up the

Amphipathic
     
 
(Senior Gorilla, 833
 
Points)
 on 6/28/12 at 10:51am

Time to look up the citizenship papers for Singapore

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gordo's picture

this is ridiculous, sad day

gordo
      IB
 
(Baboon, 148
 
Points)
 on 6/28/12 at 11:01am

this is ridiculous, sad day for America

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rls's picture

Unbelievable, yet

rls
      HF
 
 
(Orangutan, 367
 
Points)
 on 6/28/12 at 11:17am

Unbelievable, yet unsurprising. So, this is what it feels like to live under a government of unlimited authority and power...

The truly fearful aspect of this decision is the future implication. There is no 'bright line', as they say, based on the way the SCOTUS decided to uphold the individual mandate as a taxing power. Why can Congress not require you to do or buy [insert product or service here], if any financial penalty that is imposed falls under Congress' taxing authority? I hereby move for an amendment to remove the Commerce Clause- the intention was noble (stopping state-to-state trade barriers), but the results are an unmitigated disaster. And significantly curtail the Congress' taxing powers. Ah, hell- that won't make a difference because Washington doesn't care about the Constitution.

Bene qui latuit, bene vixit- Ovid

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TNA's picture

It is going to be an

TNA
      O
 
 
(Human, 13,711
 
Points)
 on 6/28/12 at 11:04am

It is going to be an interesting re-election cycle for Congressional Dem's. Healthcare was unpopular which lead to them losing the majority in the House, but not only has this albatross been upheld, but the fact that Congressional Dem's just increased taxes on All Americans, not just the rich, is going to really hurt them.

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blastoise's picture

in before thread is 30 pages

blastoise
      O
 
(Senior Neanderthal, 4,378
 
Points)
 on 6/28/12 at 11:05am

in before thread is 30 pages

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BillyRay05: if you make it

UFOinsider
      O
 
(Human, 10,466
 
Points)
 on 6/28/12 at 11:10am
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I just had my first UFO experience.

I called my wife fat while we were making dinner.

Flying saucers everywhere XD

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BillyRay05: Not a perfect law

bigtool05
      CF
 
(Baboon, 142
 
Points)
 on 6/28/12 at 11:11am
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TheKid1's picture

My economist professor (Went

TheKid1
      IB
 
(Senior Gorilla, 897
 
Points)
 on 6/28/12 at 11:12am
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Addinator37: They can't force

TheKid1
      IB
 
(Senior Gorilla, 897
 
Points)
 on 6/28/12 at 11:15am
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UFOinsider: BillyRay05: if

Miamimonkey
     
 
(Monkey, 32
 
Points)
 on 6/28/12 at 11:17am
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BillyRay05: but if you make

WalMartShopper
     
 
(Senior Gorilla, 939
 
Points)
 on 6/28/12 at 11:15am

If the glove don't fit, you must acquit!

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trazer985's picture

You've actually got close to

trazer985
      ST
 
 
(King Kong, 1,780
 
Points)
 on 6/28/12 at 11:15am
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WalMartShopper's picture

anyone see this as a catalyst

WalMartShopper
     
 
(Senior Gorilla, 939
 
Points)
 on 6/28/12 at 11:17am

If the glove don't fit, you must acquit!

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Miamimonkey: UFOinsider:

TNA
      O
 
 
(Human, 13,711
 
Points)
 on 6/28/12 at 11:18am

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WalMartShopper: anyone see

Miamimonkey
     
 
(Monkey, 32
 
Points)
 on 6/28/12 at 11:19am
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petergibbons's picture

Amphipathic: Time to look up

petergibbons
      CO
 
 
(Senior Gorilla, 896
 
Points)
 on 6/28/12 at 11:19am

Life, liberty and the pursuit of Starwood Points

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TNA's picture

HCA is up ~7% today. Rest of

TNA
      O
 
 
(Human, 13,711
 
Points)
 on 6/28/12 at 11:19am

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MPBYO's picture

TheKid1: Addinator37: They

MPBYO
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(Baboon, 127
 
Points)
 on 6/28/12 at 11:20am
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TNA: Miamimonkey: Well

Miamimonkey
     
 
(Monkey, 32
 
Points)
 on 6/28/12 at 11:22am
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Miamimonkey: WalMartShopper

WalMartShopper
     
 
(Senior Gorilla, 939
 
Points)
 on 6/28/12 at 11:23am

If the glove don't fit, you must acquit!

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TheKing's picture

I think my favorite part of

TheKing
      O
 
 
(Senior Neanderthal, 5,169
 
Points)
 on 6/28/12 at 11:26am

Check out my WSO Blog

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WalMartShopper's picture

sorry, but this is utter

WalMartShopper
     
 
(Senior Gorilla, 939
 
Points)
 on 6/28/12 at 11:29am

If the glove don't fit, you must acquit!

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To add: We can all argue that

TheKing
      O
 
 
(Senior Neanderthal, 5,169
 
Points)
 on 6/28/12 at 11:30am

Check out my WSO Blog

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UFOinsider: BillyRay05: if

BillyRay05
      ST
 
(Senior Baboon, 181
 
Points)
 on 6/28/12 at 11:31am

"Sounds to me like you guys a couple of bookies."

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WalMartShopper: sorry, but

Miamimonkey
     
 
(Monkey, 32
 
Points)
 on 6/28/12 at 11:32am
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TheKid1: Also didn't Mitt

UFOinsider
      O
 
(Human, 10,466
 
Points)
 on 6/28/12 at 11:35am

I just had my first UFO experience.

I called my wife fat while we were making dinner.

Flying saucers everywhere XD

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rls's picture

BillyRay05: Not a perfect law

rls
      HF
 
 
(Orangutan, 367
 
Points)
 on 6/28/12 at 11:37am

Bene qui latuit, bene vixit- Ovid

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WalMartShopper: sorry, but

freeloader
      PE
 
(Senior Gorilla, 923
 
Points)
 on 6/28/12 at 11:41am
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nice ad hominem attack.

WalMartShopper
     
 
(Senior Gorilla, 939
 
Points)
 on 6/28/12 at 11:45am

If the glove don't fit, you must acquit!

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rls: BillyRay05: Not a

BillyRay05
      ST
 
(Senior Baboon, 181
 
Points)
 on 6/28/12 at 11:46am

"Sounds to me like you guys a couple of bookies."

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rls's picture

Miamimonkey: TNA: Miamimo

rls
      HF
 
 
(Orangutan, 367
 
Points)
 on 6/28/12 at 11:47am

Bene qui latuit, bene vixit- Ovid

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levelworm's picture

UFOinsider: TheKid1: Also

levelworm
      O
 
(Orangutan, 285
 
Points)
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freeloader: WalMartShopper:

WalMartShopper
     
 
(Senior Gorilla, 939
 
Points)
 on 6/28/12 at 11:52am

If the glove don't fit, you must acquit!

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rls: Miamimonkey: TNA:

Miamimonkey
     
 
(Monkey, 32
 
Points)
 on 6/28/12 at 11:51am
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TNA's picture

As TheKing said, as a white,

TNA
      O
 
 
(Human, 13,711
 
Points)
 on 6/28/12 at 11:52am

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freeloader's picture

WalMartShopper: nice ad

freeloader
      PE
 
(Senior Gorilla, 923
 
Points)
 on 6/28/12 at 11:55am
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TNA: There is no law that

UFOinsider
      O
 
(Human, 10,466
 
Points)
 on 6/28/12 at 11:56am

I just had my first UFO experience.

I called my wife fat while we were making dinner.

Flying saucers everywhere XD

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WalMartShopper, you are

Miamimonkey
     
 
(Monkey, 32
 
Points)
 on 6/28/12 at 11:58am
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UFOinsider's picture

TNA: This is just going to

UFOinsider
      O
 
(Human, 10,466
 
Points)
 on 6/28/12 at 12:03pm

I just had my first UFO experience.

I called my wife fat while we were making dinner.

Flying saucers everywhere XD

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rls's picture

BillyRay05: rls: BillyRay

rls
      HF
 
 
(Orangutan, 367
 
Points)
 on 6/28/12 at 12:04pm

Bene qui latuit, bene vixit- Ovid

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