Gas Prices slump, Retail Sales slump, What's happening?

With gas prices being low, many people are saving money that can be spent on other things. However, while gas prices are low, the retail sector has not seen an uptick in spending from consumers. As a matter of fact during January consumer spending was down 0.8% with December at a 0.9%. So where are consumers’ spending money or are they even spending money at all?

January and December saw the first back-to-back monthly declines for retail sales since mid-2012. Spending fell last month at clothing stores, supermarkets, auto dealerships, and department stores. Sales rose at restaurants, home-improvement stores, pharmacies, and so-called nonstore retailers like online sellers.

According to the Commerce Department, many consumers’ are saving their money. During the month of November, savings were up 4.3% and December went up further to 4.9%. Another reason for the slump in sales at retails is from consumers spending on health-care. The uptick of spending on healthcare could be from those who are trying to save money in order to pay for the possibility of receiving a penalty due to the Affordable Care Act (ACA).

However, on the other hand economists are not that worried about the consumer spending. Economists are being quite optimistic about consumer spending with the possibility of seeing spending occur in spring. One economist from BNP Paribas’s believes that the gains consumers are receiving from low gas prices will be spent in spring. The economist believes that it is a matter of timing and consumers are possibly reacting with a delay.

While economists are being optimistic about consumer spending, JP Morgan Chase had lowered their estimate in growth of gross domestic product (GDP) from 3% to 2.5% for the first quarter. Macroeconomic Advisors, a forecasting firm, is keeping their estimated growth stagnant at 2.4% for first quarter. With lowered estimates in growth and the slowdown in consumer spending, this could restrain the broader economy. Let’s not forget that consumer spending does account for a little over two-thirds of the U.S. economic output.

From my perspective, I think that many consumers are more cautious at spending money due to a few factors. The first would be from what consumers had experienced from the recession. While it may have been half a decade ago, I think that consumers had learned a valuable lesson and the importance of saving money. They definitely do not want to go back to that situation. Neither do I.

Another factor is from the ACA. Considering that if consumers are not covered by a health insurance company, they will eventually have to pay a penalty if they did not have health care. Saving up for this penalty can be a good deterrent for spending at clothing stores, supermarkets, department stores, and dealerships. It forces the consumer to weigh what is a priority. However, what stumps me is why spending money on going out when prices on dining out exceed what it would cost to eat at home? The gap on eating out to eating in is a good margin.

Fellow monkeys share your thoughts about this. What are your thoughts on why consumers are not spending at retail businesses? Why are the consumers saving money or spending money dining out? Do you think that consumers are delaying, possibly due to the holidays that passed or something else? Maybe it is due to the ACA?

 
wishuponastarr:

A lot of Americans, particularly those who benefit the most from lower gas prices (lower and middle class individuals) still have significant debt burdens. In my opinion, it's the same reason why the housing industry has yet to see a full recovery. Plenty of young folks have massive piles of debt upon graduating.

This is a good point. I read somewhere a few months ago (can't tell you where) that the trend has begun to shift with a lot of consumers in America to begin paying down debt as opposed to spending more and utilizing more credit. In the past this was met with fears of a possible economic downturn, but I'm thinking that it has more to do with the 2008 crisis causing a lot more of us to pause and see the potentials of massive debt to income ratios during an economic downturn. I did ok through the crisis, and am currently doing quite well, but my wife and I are knocking out our debt to make sure that we are prepared for any issues that come up. Due to the change in oil supply due to new fracking technology, and the behavior of OPEC, I think that gas prices have changed as a significant economic indicator since there are so many other factors currently driving prices. Just my opinion.
"Decide what to be and go be it." - The Avett Brothers
 

Since I've started my new job, I have money for rent, food, gym, gas, and that's basically it. Credit card payments of course. Saving for new tires is tough with all of that going on. I went out for Super Bowl weekend, but I did Beer Bust for $10. That was the last time I went out drinking. Not retail spending for awhile. I do need new clothes, but it's not a necessity now. The people I work with aren't high maintenance so that's good on my end. Being an adult sucks, but it's great at the same time.

Greed is Good!
 

Keep in mind that retail sales are still stronger than last January. In addition I would argue that lower gas prices are an income effect, since Americans that use gas view it as a necessity, thus we wouldn't see that big of a shift in sales just from lowered gas prices.

Also I wonder if E-Commerce is included in those numbers. E-Commerce is growing larger and larger and Americans are making more an more purchases online.

As for food, a lot of people can't, or don't want to cook regardless of their income level. And the more you eat out, the easier it is to justify that 10 dollar meal. Food service will always find business

 

Silver Banana! Now that I live in a city, most people naturally go out to eat or do the Fit Kitchen thing here (It's Denver thing). Going out to eat is extremely costly. In 2013 alone I spent over 5K just on food and this wasn't grocery shopping either. I really hate peer pressure sometimes. Many people have excuses for not cooking at home that's why some of my friends spend close to $30 on lunch everyday. It's not hard to get a rice cooker, put some meat on a skillet, and wash some fresh salad. That's 30 min tops. Most people are just too lazy. I just can't do that anymore. I limit myself to 2-3 meals out per month.

Greed is Good!
 

Maybe Americans are sick of being refered to as consumers. I swear we're the only country in the world that when sales don't hit their target during the Christmas season, we have an economicst go on tv and tell us how awful Jesus birthday was because Americans didn't buy enough marked up stuff they don't need.

Another thing, since when is saving a bad thing?

A note on millenial not buying houses:

  1. We don't have money for the down payment due to excessive bills and debt.
  2. A lot of millenials parents got powned during the 2008 financial collapse, and are now upside down on their house.
  3. When you buy a house/apartment you are tied down to that area. This makes it difficult to accept that job 1,000 miles away that pays 30% more.
 
Withoutapaddle:

Maybe Americans are sick of being refered to as consumers. I swear we're the only country in the world that when sales don't hit their target during the Christmas season, we have an economicst go on tv and tell us how awful Jesus birthday was because Americans didn't buy enough marked up stuff they don't need.

Another thing, since when is saving a bad thing?

A note on millenial not buying houses:

1. We don't have money for the down payment due to excessive bills and debt.
2. A lot of millenials parents got powned during the 2008 financial collapse, and are now upside down on their house.
3. When you buy a house/apartment you are tied down to that area. This makes it difficult to accept that job 1,000 miles away that pays 30% more.

I'd give a SB if I had it. I make good money, but saving enough for a down payment (or a ring...sorry, GF) is a joke of an idea with student loans, car insurance, etc. Plus, if I'd buy something now, throw out going to grad school any time soon except locally. I have little interest in doing the yard work and paying for the upkeep on a house, nor paying for HOA fees that make a condo even more expensive than just renting an apartment.

Commercial Real Estate Developer
 

Preach is what the Prophet said! Don't forget the upkeep of your car. Owning a Tahoe is expensive in Colorado is expensive for me at least. Tires, new windshield, AC belt is broke, little dents here and there, synthetic oil, etc it all adds up! No way am I thinking about grad school or a house.

Greed is Good!
 

I think I'm going to ask my future wife to marry me the way the ancient greeks did it by throwing an apple to her haha.

Going to graduate school is also a great point. It would be stupid to buy a condo/house just to relocate to a new location for B school ect. Unless you're 100% positive you can rent it out. Not to mention if something breaks (say a $20,000 water heater) you're liable for the cost to replace it. I like calling my landlord to fix my stuff and not being charged for it.

 
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Withoutapaddle:

Maybe Americans are sick of being refered to as consumers. I swear we're the only country in the world that when sales don't hit their target during the Christmas season, we have an economicst go on tv and tell us how awful Jesus birthday was because Americans didn't buy enough marked up stuff they don't need.

Another thing, since when is saving a bad thing?

A note on millenial not buying houses:

1. We don't have money for the down payment due to excessive bills and debt.
2. A lot of millenials parents got powned during the 2008 financial collapse, and are now upside down on their house.
3. When you buy a house/apartment you are tied down to that area. This makes it difficult to accept that job 1,000 miles away that pays 30% more.

I too enjoyed chris rock's skit on consumerism.

 

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