The NFL's Replacement Refs Dilemma

Football is back.

The NFL returned in full force on Sunday to the delight of millions of fans across America. If you're anything like me, you spent all of Friday and Saturday going into a frenzy anticipating the moment you could crack open your first beer and watch the first kickoff at 1pm on Sunday.

Now, as some of you already know, I am a hardcore Giants fan. So, technically, my season started (disappointingly) last Wednesday...but there's still nothing like knowing you've got a 12 hour slate of games to look forward to on any Sunday for 5 months straight. I'm sure I'm not alone in thinking this.

I'm also certain that many of you had the same reaction I had while watching the games...who on Earth are these referees and where is Ed Hochuli?

Why is America's strongest, most profitable, and most popular league using replacement referees? And were they as bad as they were expected to be?

To answer the first question, the NFL is locking out the referees due to a labor dispute with the NFLRA. The heart of the dispute comes down to, you guessed it, money.

The NFL generates over $9 billion of revenue a year, with that number expected to grow over the next several years thanks in part to lucrative television deals. The referee union contends that the League is stiffing them on pay relative to the growth and profitability of the league.

League officials claim to have offered referees a pay increase of 5 - 11%, whereas NFLRA officials say that the actual effective increase is only 2.8%.

To be fair, NFL referees are part-time employees. And unlike Major League Baseball and the NBA, each ref participates in a relatively paltry number of games each season. However, this is rather irrelevant when you take into account how important high quality officiating is to maintaining the integrity of the game. It's also moot when you factor in how high player pay and owner revenue is relative to the length of the season and to other professional leagues.

Being a finance forum, I imagine that many readers automatically look to side with management in labor disputes. I'd argue that this isn't the right way to look at things when it comes to professional sports. Unlike a factory that produces widgets, you can't simply find replacement labor to come in and do the job if your workers up and leave. In sports, the quality of the product is entirely dependent on the participants that take to the field.

While this is obviously true in the case of the players, since no replacements exist on planet Earth, it is not as obviously true in the case of the referees. After all, it's just a matter of memorizing some rules, right?

Wrong.

The replacement refs, a rag-tag bunch pulled from small college conferences, high school, and even the lingerie football league, made numerous embarrassing errors during their first full slate of games. Thankfully, Deadspin put together a compilation of some of the most egregious mistakes.

Personally, I want the real refs back. The NFL is far too profitable and growing at an outrageous pace. There is no reason for the quality of the games to suffer over paltry sums of money. It's a slap in the face to the fans and makes it harder for players to play confidently knowing that they won't be dealt a bad hand via a botched call or delays in the game due to refs huddling to try and figure out which rules to enforce (this happened several times on Sunday.)

Where does WSO side on this? Should the NFLRA suck it up, accept the package, and come back to work? Or should the League pay up to maintain the quality of the game?

 

I don't care which side gives in; the refs just need to come back, if only to calm down the fans who blame every close call or decision on the replacement refs. That deadspin bit is hilarious, but people seem to forget that we incessantly complain about bad calls every year.

I'd love to hear that the league gives in and pays the refs more, because they'd be giving the fans what they want. Nobody wants to see these other shmucks running around out there forgetting who committed the penalty and things like that. We want the refs back and meeting their demands might be a sign of good faith on Goodell's part, who is among the most despised commissioners in sports.

 

They nearly fucked up 49ers-Packers by not calling a block in the back on Cobb's PR TD. And then there was the whole four timeout debacle with the Seahawks. Didn't end up affecting the outcome of either, but it's only a matter of time before one of them does. Once that happens the talks with the regular refs will be accelerated, but that's shitty. It's like how it took the NFL to realize that playing football could cause brain damage to take more precautions regarding concussions and player safety.

Personally, I think Goodell is a massive prick and I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels the same way.

 
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As a game of "inches," there are so many stakeholders that Goodell is affecting with his ignorance. So many NFL games come down to close first downs, final second spikes, and last-minute field goal set ups. As a league with so much parity and unpredictability, one ref slip-up in the 4th quarter in week 15 or 16 can exclude a deserving team from a playoff birth. The last thing we need is refs adding to the uncertainty each NFL season holds, there are already enough injuries and suspensions that contribute to that. Coaches, players, general management and ownership, as well as team and stadium support staff work tirelessly and devote tons of their time to sixty minutes of quality football on Sunday. Millions of fans spend so much time watching, attending games, buying merchandise, playing fantasy and betting, making the league so much money that this situation just makes the commissioner's office looks incredibly pig-headed and selfish. Pay the real refs and keep the highest level of America's favorite game fair and enjoyable for everyone.

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brownfield:
As a game of "inches," there are so many stakeholders that Goodell is affecting with his ignorance. So many NFL games come down to close first downs, final second spikes, and last-minute field goal set ups. As a league with so much parity and unpredictability, one ref slip-up in the 4th quarter in week 15 or 16 can exclude a deserving team from a playoff birth. The last thing we need is refs adding to the uncertainty each NFL season holds, there are already enough injuries and suspensions that contribute to that. Coaches, players, general management and ownership, as well as team and stadium support staff work tirelessly and devote tons of their time to sixty minutes of quality football on Sunday. Millions of fans spend so much time watching, attending games, buying merchandise, playing fantasy and betting, making the league so much money that this situation just makes the commissioner's office looks incredibly pig-headed and selfish. Pay the real refs and keep the highest level of America's favorite game fair and enjoyable for everyone.

This. Whoever said "there hasn't been public outcry" hasn't been watching the right sport.

 
brownfield:
As a game of "inches," there are so many stakeholders that Goodell is affecting with his ignorance. So many NFL games come down to close first downs, final second spikes, and last-minute field goal set ups. As a league with so much parity and unpredictability, one ref slip-up in the 4th quarter in week 15 or 16 can exclude a deserving team from a playoff birth. The last thing we need is refs adding to the uncertainty each NFL season holds, there are already enough injuries and suspensions that contribute to that. Coaches, players, general management and ownership, as well as team and stadium support staff work tirelessly and devote tons of their time to sixty minutes of quality football on Sunday. Millions of fans spend so much time watching, attending games, buying merchandise, playing fantasy and betting, making the league so much money that this situation just makes the commissioner's office looks incredibly pig-headed and selfish. Pay the real refs and keep the highest level of America's favorite game fair and enjoyable for everyone.

Great post. Agree with you 100% on all counts.

 

I just have to LOL out the outrage here. We bitch and moan about all refs--youth leagues, high school, college and NFL. We have such a short memory.

The only legitimately highly professional refs are MLB umpires. They are proven right on 19 out of 20 replays whereas all football refs are wrong at least half the time.

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Virginia Tech 4ever:
I just have to LOL out the outrage here. We bitch and moan about all refs--youth leagues, high school, college and NFL. We have such a short memory.

The only legitimately highly professional refs are MLB umpires. They are proven right on 19 out of 20 replays whereas all football refs are wrong at least half the time.

1.) The mistakes the replacement refs are making are incredibly bush league and affect the flow of the game (and then some). See the Deadspin link I posted.

2.) I wouldn't point to MLB umps over NFL refs. For one, see the botched call on Texeira's slide against the Orioles to end the game the other day (leading to a tie for the AL East.) Or, how about the dude that cost Armando Galarraga a perfect game because of a botched call on the final out?

3.) Having replay in football is key because it's simply impossible to be infalible on every play when there is so much action all over the field and things often happen in a pile. One of the major reasons that we have replay in the NFL is because of a goal line TD that wasn't actually a TD, but it happened at the bottom of a pile and there was no replay allowed (I believe it was by the Jets in 1998 in a playoff game.)

4.) The refs demands aren't insane. The league is growing at an insane rate and is absurdly profitable...because of the product on the field. Refs are a big part of that.

 
TheKing:
Virginia Tech 4ever:
I just have to LOL out the outrage here. We bitch and moan about all refs--youth leagues, high school, college and NFL. We have such a short memory.

The only legitimately highly professional refs are MLB umpires. They are proven right on 19 out of 20 replays whereas all football refs are wrong at least half the time.

1.) The mistakes the replacement refs are making are incredibly bush league and affect the flow of the game (and then some). See the Deadspin link I posted.

2.) I wouldn't point to MLB umps over NFL refs. For one, see the botched call on Texeira's slide against the Orioles to end the game the other day (leading to a tie for the AL East.) Or, how about the dude that cost Armando Galarraga a perfect game because of a botched call on the final out?

3.) Having replay in football is key because it's simply impossible to be infalible on every play when there is so much action all over the field and things often happen in a pile. One of the major reasons that we have replay in the NFL is because of a goal line TD that wasn't actually a TD, but it happened at the bottom of a pile and there was no replay allowed (I believe it was by the Jets in 1998 in a playoff game.)

4.) The refs demands aren't insane. The league is growing at an insane rate and is absurdly profitable...because of the product on the field. Refs are a big part of that.

You're going to point to a few instances where the MLB ref got it wrong to prove a point? How much baseball do you watch? Every time I'm outraged at a call I wait for the replay, which an overwhelming majority of the time confirms the MLB umpire was correct. On the other hand, football refs are horrible, from top to bottom.

Relax. This was literally week 1. The guys will get better. They're no less competent to officiate than regular NFL refs--they've just got virtually no reps doing it.

I just think it's hilarious that you're saying people are outraged--this thread is the first thread I've seen discussing it anywhere. Nobody cares about the refs except obese, arm chaired quarterbacks. There is zero public outcry over highly paid rich people demanding more.

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It would be a complete travesty if the refs won. You give these fuckers an inch and they take a mile. It would do nothing but begin the fuckin bi-annual referee holdout if they won. Oh but wait, some of the refs fucked up this weekend? Oh you know what that sounds like, ah yes... the exact same thing that would have happened anyway. I dont give a fuck whos reffing- people will bitch about bad calls, FACT. Besides if you really feel like they are THAT subpar, just give them a few weeks to get up to speed. This isn't rocket science. Like most professions out there; it is in their best interest to make ppl believe they have some sort of "special" ability because their very livelihood relies on that assumption.

But hey, at the end of the day- nothing and I mean NOTHING would make an NFL game less entertaining to watch than an NBA game. So at least we'll always have that.

GBS
 

i didn't think the replacement refs would be a big deal, but seeing all of these shitty calls first hand gave me a change of heart. they should just pay the refs... too many shitty calls.

Money Never Sleeps? More like Money Never SUCKS amirite?!?!?!?
 

I agree there were a higher number of botched calls this week, but I don't think they did an incredibly terrible job. There were a lot of tough calls they actually got right, I just think there was a lot more focus on the refs this week given the hold-out, so we were even more primed to notice the bad ones and scream foul....the facts are that Deadspin could put a similar collection of the 10-15 worst calls from the week even with the old refs there.

Yes, there were definitely more bad calls than normal, not denying that, and I'd love to have the normal refs with more experience back (the biggest issue was how long it took them to pull their flags, not that they had too many botched calls), but I actually think they did an admirable job considering how hard it is to ref such a fast game with so much going on.

my 2 cents.

 
WallStreetOasis.com:
I agree there were a higher number of botched calls this week, but I don't think they did an incredibly terrible job. There were a lot of tough calls they actually got right, I just think there was a lot more focus on the refs this week given the hold-out, so we were even more primed to notice the bad ones and scream foul....the facts are that Deadspin could put a similar collection of the 10-15 worst calls from the week even with the old refs there.

Yes, there were definitely more bad calls than normal, not denying that, and I'd love to have the normal refs with more experience back (the biggest issue was how long it took them to pull their flags, not that they had too many botched calls), but I actually think they did an admirable job considering how hard it is to ref such a fast game with so much going on.

my 2 cents.

Agreed that mistakes are made all the time, week in and week out.

But, the nature of the mistakes is the problem. When the refs are screwing up the pacing of the game, making really egregious errors, and missing major calls that swing momentum, it's a big deal.

I just feel like it's such penny pinching on the part of the league and people are definitely not happy about it.

 

As mentioned before, there were too many egregious mistakes in a lot of the games this weekend. And whats up with all those late fucking flags. Do they have to process what they saw and go oh ya its illegal throw yellow flag 10 secs after the plays over. Holy fuck pay these refs already, Peyton's contracts prolli could pay all the refs 2x over.

 
ladubs111:
As mentioned before, there were too many egregious mistakes in a lot of the games this weekend. And whats up with all those late fucking flags. Do they have to process what they saw and go oh ya its illegal throw yellow flag 10 secs after the plays over. Holy fuck pay these refs already, Peyton's contracts prolli could pay all the refs 2x over.

Peyton's contract could pay all the refs 100 times over for several years. The NFL is too big and too profitable to sacrifice the quality of the games over penny pinching.

 

Figure they make like high 5s figures about, 16 games a week 6(?) refs per game 96 refs then include back up refs and whatever else so maybe 110-115 refs. Since they are a labor union they prolli got some outstanding over the top benefits so figure cost per ref is around 100k so about $11.5 million a year. Think NFL can afford to cut overpaid POS like Albert Haynesworth's old Redskin contract and pay the refs. If Tony Romo implodes again this year, i say Dallas should take away some of his gaurenteed to pay the refs too. That will square away everything.

 
ladubs111:
NBA refs are by far the worst pro sport referees.

This x100. While every sport has bad calls here and there. Basketball has literally become a JOKE due to officiating. Say what you will about basketball as a sport, but holy shit is the NBA an atrocity.

GBS
 
wannabeaballer:
The Broncos game was only 59 minutes long because the refs let a minute run off the clock in between two plays with a video review. That's like skipping the 6th inning.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/nfl-rapidreports/20149147/rams

According to this article, the clock operator is not an official and is not part of the lockout. It also notes that the replacement official acted correctly in stopping the clock. It also notes that an official can fix the clock if he notices the error. In this instance, nobody, including players and coaches, recognized the issue until after the fact.

You can't really blame that one on the replacement crew.

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Virginia Tech 4ever:
wannabeaballer:
The Broncos game was only 59 minutes long because the refs let a minute run off the clock in between two plays with a video review. That's like skipping the 6th inning.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/nfl-rapidreports/20149147/rams

According to this article, the clock operator is not an official and is not part of the lockout. It also notes that the replacement official acted correctly in stopping the clock. It also notes that an official can fix the clock if he notices the error. In this instance, nobody, including players and coaches, recognized the issue until after the fact.

You can't really blame that one on the replacement crew.

Thanks for the response - unfortunately, we're not talking about the same game. It's easy to confuse which clock mismanaged game is up for discussion because there were so many of them.

 

^^i do congratulate you on your ability to cause controversy and that you are a true believer in a major political party, which I didn't think anyone did anymore.

My kids have gold medals from when they were 4, but trust me, they don't care about pro sports other than the fact that it's funny to say LeChoke James.

 

Your argument that they make enough money as it is based upon hours worked is a little...dare I say...socialist?

Perhaps their compensation is based less on the fact that they work part-time and more on the fact that they do a damn good job (overall) in the most powerful, profitable, popular, and fastest growing sports league on Earth.

Look. You disagree. Not the end of the world.

 

Btw, let's assume that the best ref in the league works 16 regular season games and four playoff games (including a wild card game and the Super Bowl), he could make somewhere around $150K.

For the richest and most powerful league on Earth, that is literally pennies.

That's really the crux of my argument. Is the League really going to pinch pennies at the expense of the quality of the product? Seems like a slap in the face to its fans.

And, again, just because you haven't paid attention to it, doesn't mean it doesn't matter to others, nor does it mean its not an issue. You are not a grand arbiter or what matters in the world of sports.

 
TheKing:
Btw, let's assume that the best ref in the league works 16 regular season games and four playoff games (including a wild card game and the Super Bowl), he could make somewhere around $150K.

For the richest and most powerful league on Earth, that is literally pennies.

That's really the crux of my argument. Is the League really going to pinch pennies at the expense of the quality of the product? Seems like a slap in the face to its fans.

And, again, just because you haven't paid attention to it, doesn't mean it doesn't matter to others, nor does it mean its not an issue. You are not a grand arbiter or what matters in the world of sports.

It's about setting a precedent, not about the money. If you want labor to essentially ruin your business model forever then you allow the labor unions to win through threats and intimidation and strikes, as they did in the MLB, as they did with GM, as they did in New Jersey for decades with the teachers' unions. Labor unions are like cockroaches--if you give 'em an inch they'll take a mile. The NFL is simply saying that the labor unions don't run the show. And good for them.

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Virginia Tech 4ever:

It's about setting a precedent, not about the money. If you want labor to essentially ruin your business model forever then you allow the labor unions to win through threats and intimidation and strikes, as they did in the MLB, as they did with GM, as they did in New Jersey for decades with the teachers' unions. Labor unions are like cockroaches--if you give 'em an inch they'll take a mile. The NFL is simply saying that the labor unions don't run the show. And good for them.

Isn't this the basic definition of capitalism? To negotiate the best possible price for your goods or services? If the refs believe their service is worth more than the NFL is willing to pay, it should simply withhold the services until the NFL sees the value or choose to make do with an alternative.

That's how business works...

 
Virginia Tech 4ever:
TheKing:
Btw, let's assume that the best ref in the league works 16 regular season games and four playoff games (including a wild card game and the Super Bowl), he could make somewhere around $150K.

For the richest and most powerful league on Earth, that is literally pennies.

That's really the crux of my argument. Is the League really going to pinch pennies at the expense of the quality of the product? Seems like a slap in the face to its fans.

And, again, just because you haven't paid attention to it, doesn't mean it doesn't matter to others, nor does it mean its not an issue. You are not a grand arbiter or what matters in the world of sports.

It's about setting a precedent, not about the money. If you want labor to essentially ruin your business model forever then you allow the labor unions to win through threats and intimidation and strikes, as they did in the MLB, as they did with GM, as they did in New Jersey for decades with the teachers' unions. Labor unions are like cockroaches--if you give 'em an inch they'll take a mile. The NFL is simply saying that the labor unions don't run the show. And good for them.

You are exaggerating the demands of the refs a thousand-fold. For one, labor IS the business model of the NFL in the case of the players. No Players = No Product. The refs are a part of the on-field product. While they are far less important to the product than the players, they are paid commensurately. It isn't like Ed Hochuli gets $5M a year to ref, we're talking about pennies for a league. This doesn't move the bottom line at all.

Comparing labor in sports to labor unions in teaching and state gov't is asinine. Not everything has to be some grand democrat / republican, liberal / conservative battle for the soul of America. I just want to see the best product on the field and not see it sacrificed so the League can send an unwarranted "message" to the refs.

For the record: I'm not some big labor nut or whatever you might paint me to be. I generally only side with labor in the case of professional sports since: a.) the product could not exist without them; b.) I find it hard to sympathize with sports owners who are generally already exorbitantly rich and often have taxpayer funded stadiums of questionable economic value; and c.) if owners' sole care is maximizing value and growth, perhaps they should sell their teams and enter a different field. I'll take owners like Mark Cuban and the Mara family over hardliners like Bob Kraft or Jerry Jones seven days a week and twice on Sunday.

 

it is a tough scenario for all parties, but I agree with the main point of the article. I do miss the old officials, the replacement officials have left something to be desired, which I guess is understandable, but as a fan that doesn't mean I should have to put up with it either. In a perfect world I would love to have the old officials back, but it honestly may not happen, so just hope your team doesn't end up getting screwed because of it.

 

As the weeks go on, the replacement officials will only get better and increase the leverage of the owners. I honestly think the refs overplayed their hand on this one. If you look at a lot of the mistakes, they are based on rules that differ at the NFL level (penalty enforcement, clock management). It's pretty intimidating to go from a high school or D3 game to a packed stadium where the speed of the game is 10x faster. Just look at the improvement from week 1 in the preseason to week 1 in the regular season. The one thing I see that could put the ball back in the refs court, a major injury to a superstar caused by a mistake on the part of a replacement ref.

 
Virginia Tech 4ever:
Here's a link.

http://www.forbes.com/lists/2011/33/baseball-valuations-11_land.html

In 2011, there were dozens of players who earned more than their organizations. On page 1, the Red Sox and Mets lost money.

So 3 MLB teams have negative operating income. That's 10% of total teams. Average operating margin of ~8%.

Virginia Tech 4ever:
You have 7 Phillies who earn higher salaries than their organization's operating income: http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/salaries/_/name/phi/philadelphia-phillies

The revenue only includes ticket sales and sponsorships. What's the total number once ancillary revenue (such as concessions, sports networks, TV contracts) is included?

 
freeloader:
Virginia Tech 4ever:
Here's a link.

http://www.forbes.com/lists/2011/33/baseball-valuations-11_land.html

In 2011, there were dozens of players who earned more than their organizations. On page 1, the Red Sox and Mets lost money.

So 3 MLB teams have negative operating income. That's 10% of total teams. Average operating margin of ~8%.

Virginia Tech 4ever:
You have 7 Phillies who earn higher salaries than their organization's operating income: http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/salaries/_/name/phi/philadelphia-phillies

The revenue only includes ticket sales and sponsorships. What's the total number once ancillary revenue (such as concessions, sports networks, TV contracts) is included?

The Forbes article labels it as earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation and amortization, which means real earnings are probably even crappier than what's reported.

You have 3 teams that lost money and 5 teams that earned less than $10 million in operating income. So at least 8 teams have players that earn more than the organization earns. Then you've got 7 other teams that earn less than $20 million. My guess is that all of them have players with higher salaries than earnings.

The NFL, on the other hand, is far, far more profitable. Why is that? Well, one of the reasons--by no means the only reason--is that their labor contracts are manageable.

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