Big 4 RX

Anyone here work in Big 4 RX in the States?

Starting to get burnt out at a T2 firm, but I still enjoy the work. Any insights on what the job might look like at a KPMG, PwC or Deloitte? Assuming the deals are much smaller, but curious as to the mandates these firms usually win.

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Big 4 restructuring (RX) teams in the U.S. can offer a solid career path, but the experience will differ from Tier 2 firms in several ways. Here's what you can expect:

  1. Deal Size and Mandates:

    • Big 4 RX teams typically handle mid-market deals, which are generally smaller than those managed by elite boutiques or Tier 2 firms.
    • Mandates often include debt restructuring, distressed M&A, and operational turnarounds.
    • Deloitte is particularly strong in RX, often competing with elite boutiques in certain cases. PwC and KPMG are also solid players, with KPMG recently launching a Special Situations M&A group to bolster their RX capabilities.
  2. Client Base:

    • Big 4 firms often work with a mix of private equity portfolio companies, mid-sized corporates, and occasionally larger clients.
    • The focus is more on implementation and operational improvements, which can be less glamorous but highly impactful.
  3. Work Environment:

    • The Big 4 are known for their structured environments and regimented roles. This can mean less flexibility compared to smaller firms but also more resources and support.
    • Burnout is still a concern, as hours can be long, especially during busy periods. However, the work-life balance may be slightly better than at Tier 2 firms.
  4. Exit Opportunities:

    • Big 4 RX experience is well-regarded and can open doors to roles in distressed investing, private equity, or even corporate strategy.
    • The experience is particularly valued at leaner shops or boutiques that focus on distressed work.

If you're feeling burnt out but still enjoy the work, transitioning to a Big 4 RX team could provide a more structured environment with potentially better work-life balance, while still allowing you to stay in the restructuring space.

Sources: Please Help Me Understand Corp. Finance / M&A at the Big 4, PwC - Financial Services Advisory - Capital Markets Basically Just Risk & Compliance?, Q&A - Big 4 TAS Financial Diligence, Big 4 is Paradise, BEST Restructuring experience in London

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I'm at a Big 4 firm and have close relationships with the restructuring team because I worked with them for over a year despite not being part of their group (my team was slow so they lent me out to keep me utilized). TBH, the consensus I've gotten from them is the following:

  1. The work will be limited because of the independence restrictions the Big 4 have. For example, you can't be acting CFO/CEO for a distressed company because of these rules (or at least my company won't allow it)
  2. The hours might not be significantly better but the bonuses will be significantly worse. The truth is, setting up your work at a financially distressed company is going to be an ass-kicking no matter what. During the bad parts of a project, you will be up till the wee hours of the morning and then waking up with 4 hours of sleep the next day. There sometimes is a lot of shit falling apart that needs to be fixed and the only way out is by putting in hours.

Maybe other Big 4 are better, but I'm not sure I'd move with the expectation you'll get some relief there. From reading online here, it does seem like T1 shops work with bigger companies and so the "monitoring" phase of the project is lighter at the Big 4, just because it's not a F500-sized company and there's just less to do. That said, there have been lots of people from the my firm who are bailing for other opportunities or even moving upstream to A&M/Alix because of the said shitty bonus for not much (if any) better hours in return.

 

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