Deloitte BTA vs. IBM Consulting By Degrees
Hey all,
I'm a graduating senior with two offers: one for Deloitte's Business Technology Analyst and the other for IBM's Consulting by Degrees. I'm very interested in innovative/disruptive technology, and have worked with a few web startups. Ideally, I'd love to be in a place where I could be creative, and help companies implement new technologies to make them smarter, and provide more value to their customers! I'm excited to have the resources at my disposal to make a difference.
I know Deloitte is rated much higher by Vault as it relates to technology consulting, but I wanted to open it up to get various opinions. The offer for Deloitte is out of the Chicago office, while IBM is for San Francisco.
Can you give me some advice on differences in culture between the two? Where I would perhaps be put on more interesting and innovative projects? Have the best work/life balance?
Any help would be appreciated!
Thanks,
consultingn00b
EDIT: Whoops, I thought this was Deloitte S&O so my response was in regards to that. If this is BTA, I don't think there's a comparison here. You can really go with S&O or CBD depending on preference and most would pick S&O, but for BTA I don't think you can make a legit argument against IBM (then again we have so many Deloitte people on this board who knows what responses you will get)
(waits for run4run to come in here bashing IBM)
DISCLAIMER 1: Omg I'm working for IBM, so bias I know! :O Think of me as the balancing act between run4run
DISCLAIMER 2: IBM CBD is NOT PURE tech implementation. There is heavy tech, but the CBD program is under IBM's "strategy and transformation" department that previously wasn't open to entry level hires until 2 years ago when the program was created (I SPECIFICALLY asked the recruiter this when I was interviewing because I had the same fear of pure system integration.)
1) I'd think Deloitte would offer more interesting projects overall in terms of your job duties because it is more pure strategy. Then again IBM offers strong range of sectors simply due to its entire business being fundamentally built on business.
2) IBM is a Monday-Thursday and sometimes Friday thing. Very reasonable. Not bad compared to MBB which has you request a "hallowed" period sometime within your 7 day work week.
3) Deloitte BY FAR has the most prestige in the general consulting/banking world. As you can tell from WSO. Now, in the tech world where I interned at in NYC and grew up in from California, I can say IBM is much more well known (even among my programmer friends in Norcal, they just know Deloitte for its accounting practice). It depends on your long-term goals.
BTW, IBM has you at Senior consultant after 2 years (90% of the class got promoted), which I'd like to think would make you look great for MBA admissions.
Do you know what service line you're the offer for Deloitte is for? I'd be happy to give you more insight into it. PM me.
Hi ConsultingJunkie, I have the same problem as jeiden (person who made this forum). Would you be able to assist me? Deloitte offered me the BTA position (information mgmt) while IBM offered me the CBD program but under their business analytics and optimization service line. Thanks!
Also, for Deloitte... the dependencies are 1) At the most weight, what service line you're in then. 2) Region you're in... which is mid-america. A lot of package software in mid-america. (Because projects would rather source local consultants because they have the same bill rate as travelling consultants but no extra travelling costs)
I'm not entirely sure with IBM Consulting though... but I figure if you're in the SF area you would have a higher probability of getting a the type of creative technologies you mentioned.
Hey which company did you end up working for? I'm in the same position as you're in!
IBM CBD or Deloitte BTA (Originally Posted: 12/26/2013)
Hi Everyone, I got two job offers. One under IBM's consulting by degrees in their business analytics and optimization service line (BAO) and the other at Deloitte as their business technology analyst. The compensation difference is $7.5K w/ IBM offering me more. I would love feedback in terms of which company to go with and why. I have been doing a lot of research by contacting people on LinkedIn to get more insight about what they do at both companies. Obviously, I am concerned more about my career development, mentor relationship, evaluations/reviews (that would lead to promotions), work culture, work/life balance, and training at both companies, else I'd go with IBM with the higher compensation offer. What are your thoughts from experience, what you've heard from colleagues?
I'm a bit biased towards Deloitte because I am more familiar with what their people (I have networked a lot), and they recruited at my school. IBM is known for brand recognition and perhaps more technical experience which would result in better project management with that knowledge under my belt, but I feel that Deloitte has better career development options. I'm sure Deloitte would give me better technical expertise as well. What do you think? Thanks!
What are your future goals?
Future goals to become a partner but with a focus in IT implementation projects/anything IT related. Someone at PwC said it's easier to jump from Deloitte to PwC.
not too familiar with the consulting industry and this might be different depending on offices, but i know someone who did IBM CBD and he said that it kind of sucked b/c majority of people at IBM were a lot older. said it was harder to get friendly with colleagues due to age difference. this was for chicago.
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