I will be graduating in about 8 months and currently have a few job offers. I am at a non-target school so breaking into MBB is fairly difficult, as was Deloitte (I got in through a recruiting program called MLT).
The two offers I narrowed it down to are Deloitte BTA and P&G CBD.
Deloitte BTA: Higher pay and signing bonus.
Procter & Gamble Business Development (Sales): I've interned here so know a lot about role/company. An MBA is not really encouraged (they only cover about half of it).
I'd like to ultimately get into a top MBA school and eventually work my way up the ladder at a company
What should I do?
Deloitte BTA is not going to get you into a top MBA school. It's just very obscure tech consulting. I would probably take P&G if you like it there.
and idk why you are lying to this guy. Deloitte BTA can be prereq to Booth, Kellog, Wharton etc. I know many people who have done big 4 IT consulting -> one of those three schools.
Go with Deloitte. In my school, there are even white guys from BTA. Comparatively, the only ones from Sales like P&G are females (mostly minorities) who actually had some other awesome stories. Leverage MLT's MBA prep and you will be in a good shape.
Deloitte, people want to shit on them here but do well on the GMAT and you can get into a top program.
whats your bta salary/bonus?
Don't really want to share that but the salary is about 20% higher and the signing bonus is twice as much.
If your goal is to get into a top MBA program, go with Deloitte. I started as a BTA 12 years ago and got into every school that I applied to (ended up attending Kellogg). Not only will you get great client/development opportunities that you can brag about in your essays, you will get access to a ton of help/resources during the application process AND school paid for if you return. Not bad.
Do you think a similar role @ PwC would have enabled you to succeed as you did after Deloitte?
I'm leaning towards Deloitte but,obviously, the consultant lifestyle would be significantly more stressful than a sales role at P&G and I'm trying to decide if it would be worth it in the long run.
If your goal is an MBA, then I'd say go with Deloitte. Their Graduate School Assistance Program sounds like it'd do a lot more than provide half the tuition, and there's definitely more of an emphasis on it there than with P&G.
My goal is to, ideally, reach a high level at a corporation and based on the fact that Deloitte primarily recruits from better schools than P&G, I feel like I should go there and follow a typical path there (work, MBA, work).
One o f the things about the BTA position is that the company doesn't prefer that BTAs pursue an MBA. Unlike the BAs, where placement into a top MBA is sort of a priority for the company, tuition assistance for BTAs are actually decided on a case by case basis.
I am saying this based on anecdotal evidence, though. I know a person who went through a rather stringent application process so that she could be "allowed" to get an MBA on a leave of absence. But I think if you network properly internally it shouldn't be the biggest problem.
interviewed for BTA and they all said BTA's have same opportunity for MBA sponsorship as BA's. 2 years BTA > MBA > 2 years required at firm as senior consultant or manager.
Do you know if you're eligible after, say, 4 years of working? Basically what if I want more experience before applying for an MBA
don't know enough to confidently comment on that. 2 years in consulting seems to be enough for the top schools that they place into. I wouldn't see why 4 years would make you any less-adequate for MBA sponsorship by the firm?
Thanks for the comments guys, appreciate the input. Still weighing the pros and cons of each opportunity.
I'd Take the Deloitte FWIW
What was your Major?
I'm an Industrial Engineering major but don't really want to go into the manufacturing/logistics/supply chain field. I'm interested in consulting and finance.
I also have a BTA offer. I spent all day at one of the offices today, and have known employees there for years. Two of my BTA friends went to Wharton, and another two did Harvard, and some others (yes, plural) went to Stanford. Access to top programs doesn't seem to be an issue. The GSAP is open to BTAs after two years (I believe). You definitely do not have to work for four years or anything to go. In essence, you have to present a good reason for why you want to go to grad school--that's it. I have noticed a trend on this site where people insist that you won't get into top MBA programs without MBB. And while MBB, I think, certainly maintain an edge in those top programs, I do not believe that this edge is as big as some proclaim it to be.
And yes, the pay is amazing. I was blown away when I got my offer last week. Feel free to PM me if you want to talk in more detail! I am accepting the offer.
If you don't mind me asking, what was your compensation package? I'm going to be making the decision about whether I should ask for more this weekend and am trying to get some anecdotal numbers. I got the (I think standard) 72.5k base 12.5k signing bonus for someone who did their SA there this summer.
My package was $72,500 + 10k signing bonus (not counting the AWESOME benefits package: We get 25 days PTO + 10 other vacation days + the option to work from home with little hassle). I was not a SA there, though. As far as negotiations, I think that depends. I suppose it wouldn't hurt to ask, but this pay package is pretty damned good. Where I am going, asking for more would be insane (pretty low COL). But if you're going to a major city, I could see you wanting to negotiate for more. Feel free to ask any other questions, and let me know if you accept!
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That salary figure is pretty close to the one from S&O at Deloitte. My friend's comp was 80k all in, at Deloitte S&O. Honestly, Deloitte BTA seems to be a very well paying gig for an IT consulting position. (I know people at Accenture who got 60k all in)
OP: I would take the money and run. Besides, unless you are cut out for sales, I think Deloitte is a safer option to go with.
great guys thanks for the input.
Yeah thanks for the input guys. I will be visiting their office later this week in NYC (that's where my offer is) so that'll help me decide. If anybody has any other advice/info, please share it.
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