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I would take LEK. Deloitte does more ops stuff, and LEK gives juniors a lot of exposure. Pretty similar exits tbh, both good, but culture at Deloitte can also be pretty rough and being at a bigger place with more bullshit and red tape can be a pain. But up to you, depends on industry preference / office too.
Better culture at LEK? LEK is known for being an absolute sweatshop. I guarantee you work longer hours at LEK on the double-staffing PE DD model. Sure, there may be more bro douchebags at S&O, but at LEK you’re going to work too many hours to worry about what Chad said at last Friday’s happy hour. I will agree that there is more red tape at S&O but I think that’s more of a factor for VP/Partner types.
S&O is probably better for most corporate exits given the brand recognition and broader case experience (not just PE DDs and growth strategy). LEK is probably better for PE/VC exits. I would make my decision based on this, while factoring in the workload and travel differentials.
Yeah I mean LEK is long hours, but I was talking more about the people and the vibe. S&O would be a ton more travel, for what that's worth, as LEK doesn't travel that much (really at all). I guess I'd agree that while LEK is definitely better for buy-side, S&O might be easier for certain corporate exits, but still, I feel like the experience you get at a shop like LEK working almost exclusively on strategy and diligence is more valuable than a top of ops stuff at Deloitte. But that's just me.
I think LEK's sweatshop reputation depends on the office location like with many firms. I have friends at LEK London who don't work as much as US colleagues. And the same goes for me - my firm has a few European offices and several US ones - in our practice the European ones work less than the US ones.
You think LEK wins in PE?
Yes. LEK has a very strong diligence focus and is known for buyside exits, It is probably the best of the T2 firms in terms of PE exits. Parthenon also does pretty well. Not saying that you can't place well out of Deloitte S&O, but if you want to do PE, it will be more natural from LEK.
I think it depends on what you want. For the widest range of exit ops Big D no question. But if you are even mildly interested in buyside (like everyone else on this forum) LEK should be your choice.
Range is nice. Do you think one if harder to get into than the other?
I think both are similar in terms of difficulty. I do think other T2s are harder to get a full time position though,like Parthenon which has a smaller and more exclusive list of target schools.
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I see, that's a good point. If you had to pick one, which would you say has higher prestige?
Not sure which one you should choose, but the Deloitte network is large and the brand name will carry...
Better than L.E.K.?
Perhaps not better but much larger, you will find VP level folks ( hiring managers) at large F500 that have never heard of LEK not so for Deloitte. A lot of people “in the know” especially within consulting or PE would think that LEK is more prestigious
LEK for sure. They have a much more specific focus (not name creep) and the exit ops are fantastic. It's sort of a sweatshop (I've got a buddy there, he's had one case that was up until 2am for a week and then out by 6 the next 3), but it's very manageable. Lots of other friends that I've had exit into PE from LEK. Also, the case turnover is pretty quick: you're looking at like a 6 week max, so you get a TON of exposure very quickly. LEK has awesome prestige in it's sphere. Big 4 are great and all, but I'll always trust an LEK strategy guy over a big 4 strategy guy, every time.
Thank you for the reply - super helpful. I definitely prefer LEK's strategy work and lack of implementation projects. Just felt a bit nervous about picking them over Deloitte since they're ranked above LEK in prestige everywhere on this website.
LEK's work is much more interesting than Deloitte. There is no chance of ending up on a long term implementation project, which happens at Deloitte. The strategy work is all growth oriented, which is also more interesting experience in my opinion than what you get at Deloitte. Pay is generally marginally better as well. Exit ops fairly aligned.
The only upside to Deloitte is if you are applying as an MBA intern and can take advantage of their second year scholarship; if you're looking at 2-3 years in consulting, this makes Daddy D a no brainer. As an UG, I'd go with LEK. The hours are bad, but Deloitte has their fair share of horror stories too, depending on where you're aligned, and LEK is a local staffing model so you don't have to live out of a suitcase (which can be fun for approximately 2 months, I don't know anyone who loves the travel in the long run).
He doesn't care about any of that. All he cares about is, "prestige." Which one has more, "prestige."
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