asking ms bankers
incoming sa ‘24 what r the top groups considered to be now. all threads have mixed info so would be nice to get updates
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Top all around (if balancing hours, exits, culture, reputation in my opinion)
Most prestigious (best exits, worse culture and hours)
Mid tier
Bad (awful culture, exits or general rep)
What’s wrong with the RE group? FIG is a tough spot to be at in any bank
There was one MS FIG kid who said he dreamed of becoming CEO of the bank
Can I ask why you think FIG is awful?
Def heard the culture is bad re: FIG
It's nichey and mathy and you work with a lot of introverted nerds who run hundreds of "what-if" analyses about rates and FX and default rates and shit all day. I haven't even started my internship yet and already want out just because I've seen models from other firms. They don't even look like regular models it's like abstract theoretical mathematics type of shit.
MS FIG is atrocious. Some of the most neurotic, insecure, generally deprived people I’ve ever met in my life. Had a few associates in my class quit the group barely a year in, one went to a notoriously sweaty EB and another moved internally to a top group, both of their lives improved dramatically..
Are they analytically anal retentive? I'm interning in FIG and that's what my frat brah told me it will be like. Neurotic levels of "what if" spreadsheet models. Not MoStanley but a similar bank.
Disagree with REGL. MS RE is top of the street followed by JPM and BOFA
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have heard M&A, M&C, Sponsors, GPUG, Transpo are top. aka what poster above said.
incoming as well, interested in APO/BX/KKR so curious to hear opinions on placement into those funds knowing they're not close to guaranteed (is M&A>>transpo for example?)a
BX/APO is most likely from M&A, but any other name you can certainly land from Transpo/GPUG type groups. Not saying BX/APO are impossible but they seem to favor the sweaty execution focused top groups
Incoming FT in Sponsors, GPUG, Transpo interested in H&F/TB/SLP - any advice on recruiting for these? Also, does group matter once you get the interview?
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UBS is a better Morgan Stanley than Morgan Stanley bruh
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