Corporate Banking: Hidden gem?

Hello all, currently a 2nd year corporate banking analyst at a non-BB balance sheet bank. The work is….interesting…sometimes. Other times it’s actually rather boring. I’ve been networking heavily with alumni to possibly jump over to an EB next year, but after reading some posts on here about the hours you people work and the mental distress that comes with it, I’m having serious doubts. I found the work in IB more interesting, but I’m pulling max 60 hours a week with very rare weekend work and IB base pay. Is it worth jumping to the EB or should I really appreciate what I have right now?

Region
 

Hey there! It sounds like you're in a bit of a pickle. On one hand, you've got a steady gig with manageable hours, but on the other, you're yearning for something more exciting, albeit with a heavier workload.

Based on the most helpful WSO content, it seems that the decision between Corporate Banking (CB) and Investment Banking (IB) at an Elite Boutique (EB) really comes down to your personal priorities and career goals.

Here are a few things to consider:

  1. Work-Life Balance: You mentioned that you're currently working around 60 hours a week in CB, which is significantly less than the 70+ hours you might expect at an EB. If maintaining a healthy work-life balance is important to you, staying in CB might be the better option.

  2. Compensation: While the base pay in CB is comparable to that in IB, the bonuses in IB can be significantly higher. If maximizing your income is a priority, moving to an EB could be beneficial.

  3. Career Progression: If you're looking to move into a role with more responsibility and potential for advancement, an EB might offer more opportunities. However, keep in mind that the competition will also be more intense.

  4. Interest in the Work: You mentioned finding the work in IB more interesting. If you're passionate about the work and believe it will keep you motivated despite the long hours, then making the move could be worth it.

Remember, there's no one-size-fits-all answer here. It's about weighing up these factors and deciding what's most important to you. Good luck with your decision!

Sources: IB post MBA, am I missing something?, Corporate banking on the rise?, What is it really like working at an EB?, EB’s are a fucking SWEATSHOP

I'm an AI bot trained on the most helpful WSO content across 17+ years.
 

It’s a personal choice.

I was in a similar position in that I had been working in MM direct lending which is a relative snooze but also interesting at times. I was actively recruiting and networking to move into restructuring however decided to stay given the extra 30% comp doesn’t really materialise given taxation and the additional hours make this a very low hourly income activity. I would prefer working extra hours vocationally doing something I enjoy or perhaps as an independent consultant rather than doing Rx and getting marginally $10 per hour.

 

I'm in a similar position but not to the degree where I've been networking externally... been thinking about whether I should exit to a more technical role for career development versus staying and enjoying the lifestyle that comes with CB. WLB has been beyond amazing as I never have weekend work and leave around 5:30 - 6 on the regular while getting comped the same as my IB peers (albeit a haircut on bonus). To add, I enjoy my group and sector. I guess only time will tell. 

Per your question, it ultimately comes down to what do you want? I suggest reflecting on what you envision for your career and whether CB leads you there, while also thinking about lifestyle considerations. Are you ok with not being to have control over your schedule like you do in CB? Are you prepared to spend less time with friends/loved ones? What will get you through those late nights once you do make the pivot? There's a reason IB has such high attrition and it would be best if you fully think through some of the caveats that come with the switch. Sometimes the grass isn't always greener but if it helps position you to where you want to be career-wise then the pivot could be worth considering. 

 

Not totally off the mark headline in my view. Culture is probably less toxic and less sexually frustrated 34 year-old VPs you tend to find in investment banking, and the work is likely more meaningful if you play the numbers game and actually think about the experience you will have as a junior-level analyst. In the current reality, the experience as a first year analyst in investment banking will likely cause significant harm to your mental health and overall life perspective. Too many NPCs at the VP and director level who take their own insecurities out on entry-level analysts who don't know any better to see that these people are really just lonely creatures who are deeply insecure. Of course, i could be totally wrong here. Some groups have great people with great cultures, but it is rare in my view. And even if you have a great culture, there is an ambiguous unspoken mandate that for some reason you must work 80 hours in order to be successful in advising corporate clients on mergers and acquisitions, when in reality it all comes down to client relationship management and competitive strategy which is much less about the buyer profiles and cookie cutter LBO models and more-so a game of poker among the few actual decision makers in these transactions, and facilitating the process such that you maximize competitive tension and perceived interest in order to maximize transaction value, and fee income for the bank. 

 

Don’t want to hijack the thread but maybe this will give you some perspective—I am in IB and would like to move over to corp banking.

Anybody know somebody who has done this? Would this be relatively easy?

Yes it’s easy- just apply you’ll be fine. I cut my teeth on corporate banking- it’s a good gig and decent WLB and prepared me well for a successful career in finance. Life and work is always what you make of it. 

Like the unadjusted- only with a little bit extra.
 
Most Helpful

I am in ibd at a balance bank and tried so hard to move to corporate banking but it is almost impossible as I am too senior (almost vp).

Our ibd basically lays off 10% people every 3 years and most of us have no exit due to poor brand name and deal flow.

Meanwhile our corporate banking team is killing it with steady revenue, stable career and many promote to senior management within the group (the country/regional heads globally are all ex-corporate banking, the functional heads are usually ex-s&t)

Once they hit pass the certain inflection point as they become regional heads (where ibd md reports to them), their pay shot up exponentially

Even if one just stays at director grade in corporate banking, it is 300-350 usd a year (in hong kong, similar post in the US would be 500-600+) with 9-7 no weekend work

 

Soluta voluptatem consequuntur voluptates. Placeat quas sit consectetur nihil ipsa dolorum. Ullam quia saepe sit. Voluptates ea est accusamus numquam est exercitationem asperiores.

Quis dignissimos nihil consequuntur. Aut dolorem aut laudantium asperiores delectus. Et accusamus laudantium nostrum minus vero.

Maiores et nostrum omnis sit dolorum. Natus est nisi quo possimus iste sunt totam. Quis sed vel aut architecto quidem.

Career Advancement Opportunities

May 2024 Investment Banking

  • Jefferies & Company 02 99.4%
  • Goldman Sachs 19 98.8%
  • Harris Williams & Co. New 98.3%
  • Lazard Freres 02 97.7%
  • JPMorgan Chase 04 97.1%

Overall Employee Satisfaction

May 2024 Investment Banking

  • Harris Williams & Co. 18 99.4%
  • JPMorgan Chase 10 98.8%
  • Lazard Freres 05 98.3%
  • Morgan Stanley 07 97.7%
  • William Blair 03 97.1%

Professional Growth Opportunities

May 2024 Investment Banking

  • Lazard Freres 01 99.4%
  • Jefferies & Company 02 98.8%
  • Goldman Sachs 17 98.3%
  • Moelis & Company 07 97.7%
  • JPMorgan Chase 05 97.1%

Total Avg Compensation

May 2024 Investment Banking

  • Director/MD (5) $648
  • Vice President (19) $385
  • Associates (87) $260
  • 3rd+ Year Analyst (14) $181
  • Intern/Summer Associate (33) $170
  • 2nd Year Analyst (67) $168
  • 1st Year Analyst (205) $159
  • Intern/Summer Analyst (146) $101
notes
16 IB Interviews Notes

“... there’s no excuse to not take advantage of the resources out there available to you. Best value for your $ are the...”

Leaderboard

1
redever's picture
redever
99.2
2
BankonBanking's picture
BankonBanking
99.0
3
Betsy Massar's picture
Betsy Massar
99.0
4
Secyh62's picture
Secyh62
99.0
5
kanon's picture
kanon
98.9
6
dosk17's picture
dosk17
98.9
7
CompBanker's picture
CompBanker
98.9
8
GameTheory's picture
GameTheory
98.9
9
numi's picture
numi
98.8
10
DrApeman's picture
DrApeman
98.8
success
From 10 rejections to 1 dream investment banking internship

“... I believe it was the single biggest reason why I ended up with an offer...”