Not traditionally, you don't gain the same modeling skillset as a coverage or M&A group and many in cap markets will lateral to traditional IB if they want PE.

You may get some inbounds, especially offcycle, for smaller PE roles and there's a chance you could go directly, but don't expect to participate in oncycle or MF PE opportunities

 

Have a a few questions re your comment on not participating in on-cycle. Do you mean that it will be difficult to get interviews in the first place, or that it will be difficult to convert those interviews because the skill set in a cap markets group doesn’t necessarily prepare you in the same way a coverage group does?

Im curious because im in a BB LF group that doesn’t model, but still works on a lot of sponsor deals. Granted it does take extra time/effort outside of work, but it seems like LBO modeling and modeling in general is something that you can easily learn on your own. If I were to take the time to learn that stuff on my own for off-cycle or next on-cycle, do you think that I wouldn’t get any interviews just by virtue of the fact that my group does not model?

 

Lev fin places the best of cap markets - I was thinking more along the lines of ECM/DCM where recruiting is kind of slim.

Depends what bank you're at, if it's BAML, JPM, or other top groups your exits will lean credit/debt focused but you'll be able to land vanilla PE if you're a strong candidate. Lower down the list I think your opportunities are mostly credit shops, which is still an interesting gig.

That said, learning to model on your own is not the same as living and breathing models for 2 years. Oncycle is so early that everyone is just learning how to scrub comps rn, but HHs and PE firms still know what groups will be fully model trained in 2 years. See what opportunities come your way towards off-cycle and if you feel your background is hurting you, can always lateral to a coverage group next summer for a better look at vanilla PE opps.

 

Thanks +1 sb. Would you mind giving a breakdown of which of those inbounds were for MF PE, UMM PE, MM PE, private credit, etc?

 
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AN2 in an M&A group who spent his first year in a LevFin group (that doesn't model) and lateraled for better buy-side. I found that even though you still receive inbounds from headhunters, the headhunters definitely did not view my role to be at the same level, and while I went through recruiting and got an offer from a reputable MM PE firm that I turned down, I found that being in capital markets definitely puts you at a disadvantage in the eyes of PE firms. Obviously you have to spend a bit more time outside of work prepping, but asides from that, you also have to "prove yourself" more to the PE firms during the recruiting process with a capital markets background as they tend to not hold it as highly regarded as a coverage or M&A background.

 

Also in CM and received several inbounds this week, it seems as though it doesn’t get you crossed off any lists but you have to differentiate yourself in another manner.

 

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