Feels like every facet of my life has fallen apart this year
This has really turned out to be the most difficult year of my life. Started the year strong and feeling good but by April I developed a new chronic pain condition not long after WFH began and in July a bulged disc from a 5-year old injury decided to flare up with a vengeance. Then the 100-hr work weeks came in the fall as backed-up COVID deal flow was released. And just a few days ago my girlfriend of 5 years (who was living with me) left me.
I am at my whit’s end. I’m totally alone now, likely facing some sort of back surgery soon, and have been in near-constant pain for months. Just barely surviving and trying to hold on to some form of productivity as an IB analyst. No home to turn to if this job falls through either. Need to work to survive.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated because I feel 0 hope for the future. I can’t wrap my head around the level of bad luck that has struck me recently.
1. Health comes first.
2. Mental health comes second
IB is a great job, but if the first two are effected it’s not worth it. If you need surgery, the bank cannot and will not let you go.
Welcome to 2020 my dude, it’s a bloodbath out here. All I can say is you gotta be proud of yourself every day for taking it like a dog and overcoming. You’ll get through it and when you do you’ll feel and be a fucking gladiator.
Hey man,
I don't generally post on here but your story hit close to home and I thought I could offer some advice. Ended up in a similar situation earlier this year, and figured you might be able to glean some wisdom from my experiences and the many hoops I have had to jump through related to back pain over the years. I'll caveat the medical advice with the imperative that you should 100% see an orthopedic to confirm your disc injury, but in the meantime wanted to share some books and tips that hopefully can get you back on the mend.
When you said chronic pain, I'm not sure if you're referring to the disc injury or something else, but here are some solid tips/books that I've found over the years from dealing with disc injuries:
1. Stuart McGill's Big 3. McGill is a leading expert on biomechanics and is world renowned for his method on core strengthening and its positive effects on lumbar spine injuries. Check out his book or some YouTube tutorials for the exercises (bird dog, plank, and modified "curl up"). These have made a big difference in my own treatment of disc injuries, and I'd highly recommend for anyone with low back pain.
2. Robin McKenzie's "Treat Your Own Back." Give this book a read in addition to McGill's core strengthening routine. McKenzie's prone press-ups are some of the best exercises for treating a disc injury and is one of the primary movements that PTs will assign for a disc injury, especially for the associated sciatica symptoms that disc herniations often create. However, I'd suggest starting out just lying on your stomach for ~5 minutes at a time, and not immediately starting with the press-ups. Get confirmation from a physician that your disc herniation would respond positively to press-ups (or do a few press-ups, and if they hurt like a bitch, stop). Some people experience more pain when doing the press-up motion, meaning that it needs to be modified for the type of herniation you have, so go easy with these.
3. John Sarno's "Healing Back Pain: The Mind Body Connection." This one is a bit more controversial and against the grain of conventional medicine, so tread lightly. I would start with the traditional approach first, but since you referred to chronic pain, I thought I'd throw this one in here as well. Sarno's theory is that back pain is predominantly psychosomatic; you experience pain as a result of repressed emotions, reinforced by behavioral responses to pain (I sit and feel pain, therefore every time I sit I will expect pain). Modern medicine has been slow to catch on to the connection between back pain and the mind, but there is increasing evidence suggesting that back pain is not solely the result of structural injuries. Howard Schubiner (one of Sarno's "disciples") gave a talk at Google a few years back that you may want to check out if this interests you. The talk is called "Unlearn your Pain - Schubiner" (tried to link but for some reason WSO isn't letting me). I'd suggest starting with conventional approaches first (PT, exercise, diet), but may be a good addition after ruling out other spinal injuries like fractures.
4. Avoid surgery if you can. When measured against conservative treatments like physical therapy and a tailored exercise program, surgery does not result in better clinical outcomes over the long term. Surgery might yield faster relief, but can be associated with an increased risk of herniating additional discs in the future. If you want more information on the outlook on surgery versus conservative care, flip through the first few pages of "Back in Control" by David Hanscom. He's a spine surgeon who gives a no bull shit assessment of the efficacy of surgery, and how it is generally unnecessary for disc related issues.
Out of all the suggestions I've given, definitely take this point with a grain of salt, and discuss with your physician if you can. There are certain herniations that can lead to issues like cauda equina, which is a medical emergency and requires surgery (loss of bowel control, numbness in extremities, etc., would be the warning signs for this). If it's a minor herniation and not deemed a threat to other bodily functions, then I'd say refer to the above and steer the fuck away from surgery.
5. Reduce systemic inflammation. I actually saw a post about this somewhere else on WSO, and thought I'd toss this in here as well. Try switching up your diet to include anti inflammatory foods (https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/13-anti-inflammatory-foods). Supplements like turmeric and fish oil are also good additions. In a pinch, try dosing with ibuprofen for the first two weeks to get pain down to a more tolerable level as you start rehabbing with McGill and McKenzie's approach. I had less success with this than the exercise programs, but some people swear by it.
Lastly, regarding the relationship stress, I just want to say that I feel you man. I ended up splitting with my girlfriend of ~4.5 years over the summer, and it just about killed me. There are threads on here and elsewhere that have a lot of great advice on this, but what I can say is that things will get better with time, though only if you actively partake in activities that help the healing process. The best thing you can do is proactively reach out to friends and family, and try to rebuild your social network outside of your relationship - I cannot emphasize this enough. I know you said you're working 100 hour weeks which can make it incredibly difficult to stay connected with the outside world, but try to set up a zoom call with buddies from college, high school, etc. at least once a week. This will improve your spirits and give you something to look forward to which is helpful for getting through the first few months. Improving your physical wellbeing with the exercises/tips above will hopefully give you some mental breathing space, and you can use that to get active again. Shoot for a 30-45 min brisk walk daily just to clear your mind. Walking/exercising in some capacity regularly also has shown to have huge benefits for reducing and even eliminating chronic pain, so definitely try to fit in the time for exercising. Also, journaling and cataloguing my daily thoughts at the end of the day was also hugely beneficial, especially for tracking progress and daily wins/losses. Definitely give this a try if you can carve out ~5 min for reflection before going to bed.
At the end of the day, if you need to take some time off to regroup to get your health and personal life back in order, by all means do so. Many people on this site will tell you that there's a one size fits all path for success, but sometimes shit happens along the way that you can't control. Either way, you're clearly a smart/motivated dude if you've made it this far, and I'm certain that you'll figure out how to manage your health issues and get back to business. Apply some of the intelligence that got you your banking job to addressing your health and personal issues, and you'll be golden.
This ended up being a bit longer than I intended, but hopefully you can find something useful in this. Feel free to PM me if you want to chat more about anything outlined above or life in general. Best of luck on your recovery, and looking forward to hearing the comeback story.
Link to study comparing surgical outcomes: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5223716/
Comprehensive overview for chronic back pain treatments: https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2017/8/4/15929484/chronic-back-p…
This is a VERY good post. I had severe spinal stenosis and degenerative disc disease for a long time. Obviously they didn't go away but my pain is negligible now whereas it used to be a 7 or even 9 out of 10. Could barely walk but I did a lot of what was mentioned in this post + avoided surgery and now I'm great. Can't do certain types of exercise but have no problem doing heavy shoulder press, bench etc... Obv no squats lol.
In addition to the poster's advice, I would grab a Theragun and use it religiously. Helps massively.
Last thing to keep in mind is that it's all incremental. You'll get 2% - 5% wins in reducing your chronic pain here and there...and it might take you 5 - 10 years but progress is progress!
Good luck OP
What's the longevity of the Theragun? Every electronic massager I've tried is great for when it works but ultimately gets fried electronically somewhere and stops working.
Hey, OP here. It has been a very long time but I just wanted to thank you for responding to this post. I read your response (and others’) many times but didn’t have it in me to respond back then.
There was light at the end of the tunnel and I made it out stronger than I was going in. My back issues still exist but they’re much more muted and appear less frequently than they did before. I went through a whole health journey (2 minor surgeries and a LOT of physical therapy) over the last few years and my mindset and approach to health is much…healthier! Just as a datapoint for those going through something similar, if I could go back again I would have opted to do just PT - no surgeries.
I actually still work in IB and found a team with a much healthier work culture as well. Found some balance and met a great new woman, too. Perseverance and adaptability was key, but so was empathy and wisdom from people like you.
Thank you.
Genuinely happy to read this, keep crushing boss!
i had similar back pain a number of years ago
3. John Sarno's "Healing Back Pain: The Mind Body Connection."
these books really worked for me....you need to actually read the book...its an easy read..and it helped teach me the tools to solve my own lower back pain from a bulging disk (combined with PT from Peggy Brill's book)
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It'll get better man, trust me. Time heals everything. When you're feeling down just take a few steps back and realize you only live once. The bank cannot fire you and if you hate it that much, explore other options. It's not worth poor mental health. Get your back fixed, do what you have to do regarding work, and give your ex space. She'll probably realize youre the best shes going to have after a little bit to herself.
Take a week off.
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Previous posters have excellent advice regarding getting your physical pain in check, but regarding the emotional pain of a breakup - I think the age of social media has made breakups extra painful and drawn out. When I got dumped out of college, one of my friends deleted every picture and possible connection off my phone/computer/social media...I was livid at first but it ended up being the most direct route to me getting over the relationship.
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