Freshman at Target - Rejected from Finance Clubs, What Am I Doing Wrong?
I'm a freshman at a target school (Columbia / Penn / Duke / Chicago / Dartmouth), and I'm not getting interviews at any of the finance clubs I'm applying to. I spend hours writing analytical answers in every written application, and I don't even get a first-round interview (multi-round interview clubs). Literally nothing is working out, and I'm not sure what to do.
Most clubs have multiple application seasons so I plan on applying multiple times, but this first season is leaving me devastated, Any advice on what I should do next time I apply? Should I try getting to know the board members for each club before I submit my applications? (These clubs are sending rejection emails literally 30 hours after the submission deadline, not sure how they read them all.) Are there any other tricks you guys used to land several club interviews? I know it's not super hard to land a top group without clubs on your resume, but it puts me at a significant disadvantage in terms of extracurriculars / networking. Literally any advice would be appreciated.
Clubs are a game of knowing people. Also, having gone to one of these schools, I can say most Freshmen don't make it because Juniors and Seniors don't want to make the investment of teaching/involving Freshmen before they're 100% in on finance(most end up changing their minds at some point or another).
Yeah, like what was said above, a lot of clubs are based on connections. Try to sit next to upperclassmen in class and get to know them. Also, go to your career center or talk with upperclassmen to have them check over your resume. I used the WSO format freshman year and thought mine looked good, but I ended up learning later on how much better it could have been.
Here are the basic bare minimums for a resume:
Also, for the applications, try to come up with some niche that you’re interested in within finance to pitch. I got a lot more interviews second semester freshman year when I applied with stock pitches of secondaries firms (I pitched HarbourVest Global Private Equity) instead of cliché companies like Apple, Amazon, or Microsoft. I set myself apart by saying I was interested in pursuing a career in secondaries. Clubs want students with a wide range of backgrounds and interests (aerospace, real estate credit, venture debt, etc.), so it’s going to be way easier for you to get into one of these clubs if you find a unique investment strategy or industry group.
This also ended up making my interview process a lot easier. Throughout college, I built a background around being interested in real estate secondaries, which allowed me to pretty easily get interviews for PCA/secondaries groups (Evercore, Lazard, Blackstone) — as admittedly a way less sweaty student compared to a lot of the people I saw targeting IB/PE. Then, for BBs without PCA groups, I was able to frame myself as being interested in real estate, gaming, and lodging so I could still logically apply for them.
Obviously, find an industry group that genuinely interests you, but in my opinion, if you get more niche, it’s way easier to get these interviews.
Also, keep in mind that there are trade-offs. Be aware that you can get pigeonholed by being in a niche. I ended up in a secondaries-based role and know I’ll definitely never be able to work in corporate PE. However, I’m willing to take that trade-off because I think it’s going to be easier for me to succeed in a kind of niche and growing sector rather than competing with everyone else.
^ TLDR: Talk to upperclassman, make resume tuff, find a niche that sets you apart from the thousands of other bots applying for ts
What other growing niches would you recommend?
Literally don’t listen to the niche guy, it only matters that you know someone. I would just chat with people in the club. Ask them what they look for, however, also just try and befriend them.
Facts - have no idea what he’s on about talking about niche stuff - elite clubs don’t want kids interested in venture debt ..
Thank you
Luck dependent
If you wanna do IB from a target you don't need a bloody club, it's easy enough without one
Are you from New Jersey by any chance?
Nah why
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