Morgan Stanley NY: Top Groups
What are the top groups at Morgan Stanley NY? Would it be accurate to say the following are the top groups: M&A, Media & Comm, Transportation, Sponsors, GPUG?
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Add tech to this, would take off sponsors
For NY?
Anecdotally have heard that MS Tech NY is also strong and continuing to grow each year - wouldn't necessarily discount it.
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M&A is top. Media&comm and sponsors are also up there
Thoughts on FIG?
shitty group. Worst at MS. Avoid at all cost
Is it the hours or culture? I'm interested in doing fintech though. Isn't it only FIG that does Fintech or does Tech cover Fintech as well?
Same question here, really interested to know this as group placement for SA is coming
What's so bad about MS FIG? I met some of the team and they seem genuinely good people that care about the team. Is it bad because their comp is lower?
Bump
any thoughts on Real Estate group?
Bump
Would avoid FIG / RE
why avoid RE? exits are crazy good
Because it is RE
Real estate is niche and your exits will primarily be in real estate and maybe infra. Some people like that, some people have commitment issues and are addicted to optionality (see the millions of threads about “exit ops”).
The MS RE group is an awesome group, great people, good deal flow, respectful people. You will be more limited in exit options to Real Estate PE, which is very different. Not necessarily bad, and you'll also be top of the list for REPE opportunities. But just know that you'd be positioning yourself for a career in REPE
how is consumer?
Good people. Lifestyle group
How’s healthcare ?
Very strong and one of top HC groups on street
How’s transpo?
Just went through placement, most sought after groups are: M&A, Media/Comms, FSG, GPUG.
What about transpo and tech
Transpo is solid, but it seems like they’ve been doing A LOT of business development work as opposed to working on IPOs/M&As/financings
Tech is decent, work on a fuck ton of IPOs
How's M&A in 2021
Is power still good?
M&A Media & Comm are usually top 2 but very intense groups. Sponsors, GPUG also popular and better culturally from anecdotes. Other great groups include Transpo and Consumer. FIG and RE usually least desired and rest fall into the middle somewhere.
What about tech?
FIG less desired because people suck and long hours, and super niche. People don't choose RE because super niche / exit, but people awesome
Bump
Industrials ? Healthcare ?
Anyone know when MS will let us know our placements?
^ hoping HR works their magic
MediaComms is probably top 3 BB groups on wall street. I'm an analyst at MS FWIW.
How do you think about the other listed groups? Transpo sponsors and gpug
Know nothing about the other two honestly but sponsors is sick. Great exits and they never work past midnight and are rarely on on weekends. You can expect 18 hours a day everyday less Saturday in MediaComm.
What about in London ?
Agreed. Exits are stronger than M&A on a per capita basis
How many interns does m&a take
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