So, are we all screwed?

With the recession just around the corner, I have heard some grave stories from this years’ (2019) SA classes. Apparently, MS HK gave out 0 FT offers for S&T this year, there have been stories on here too about Summer Associates getting no offers at all at some BBs in the US.

Others are apparently reducing hiring to prepare for the crisis (JPM is a prime example) or have even put hiring freezes in place for FT positions.

However, no one seems to really be talking about this?

Those of us graduating in 2021 will be entering the workforce right during the next recession (at least that appears to be general consensus) so what do our chances look like for 2020 SA conversion and 2021 FT recruiting if shit is already hitting the fan this summer?

What do you guys think, are there any ways to prepare to mitigate this? Any group choices you’d recommend?

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Good thing I'm graduating with money in my pocket (albeit shitty school), going to be fun watching everyone in student loan shackles while I travel the world after graduation.

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To add some more colour to your point here is some info about London for Summer Analysts: MS S&T: 13/50 interns converted JPM IBD: 50%~ conversion, some people were really good too but just didn't made the cut. Heard horrors at Jefferies, in S&T+ER heard one converted out of 15ish people I think. Barclays was also quite low in S&T although I do not have numbers.

 

Maybe someone more experienced can chime in, but I don't see how IBD Interns converting to analysts would be in trouble as they are so cheap? Shouldn't VPs and above be more so concerned? Of course, I have also heard the same things about lower return offers so I may very well be wrong here as after all we are talking about intern conversions and not already trained analysts...?

 
"NotAnUndergraduateStudent" Maybe someone more experienced can chime in, but I don't see how IBD Interns converting to analysts would be in trouble as they are so cheap? Shouldn't VPs and above be more so concerned? Of course, I have also heard the same things about lower return offers so I may very well be wrong here as after all we are talking about intern conversions and not already trained analysts...?

my response is harsh but so is the real world

dont be stupid, everyone is fair game

 

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