Wharton and MIT are the best in undergrad business hands down. So while the kings jerk off each other at the top, the underlings - stern haas ross- will be fighting for the position for the next best.
In terms of getting a finance job, how would you rank those undergrad business institutions?
PS. Does Duke rape them all?
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Depends on the year
I would imagine if you want to work in NYC, Stern is top dog (after MIT & Wharton, that is)
you dudes do know that duke doesn't have an undergrad business school?
I assume that was why he did the PS
what are you guys talking about. everyone of those programs listed are incredible. you would have no problems getting the job you want as long as you put in the hard work at each of those programs. each one will give you the tools you need to succeed. bust your ass at any one of them and youll be an ibanks wet dream. i highly doubt a recruiter will give one student precedence over another when looking at any one of these schools (unless of course its an alum). just go wherever you will do the best, where you are comfortable living, where you can get the most out of your college experience. it is all up to you, meaning what you put into it, on whether or not youll get into ibd.
Stern = Ross > Haas.
Haas' location just kills it.
Go to Stern if you want to be in the city, go to Ross if you don't. Both have great connects on Wall Street.
Especially when you compare it with Michigan like that.
in my experience (s&t at ms/gs), the # of kids in my summer analyst class were greatest at Stern, then Ross, and I don't recall any Haas people (at least in NY). Duke does rape them all.
It depends on location Stern/Ross > Haas for NY, Haas > Stern/Ross for CA. Personally, I'd choose Haas cause I'd like to be in CA, but if I had to be in NY I'd pick Ross since NYU has no campus and Stern is very cut throat.
I would say if you're willing to work incredibly hard and want a unique college experience, Stern is the best hands down. Not only do you get ample opportunities to intern during the school year, you get to live in NYC where you can find your own niche of what you like to do.
The story with Haas and Berkeley in general is that you're the same person when you graduate as when you started, which isn't appealing to me.
MIT and Wharton just seem like places where you'd hate yourself for four years unless you're much more talented than the rest.
So to sum it up, as top business institutions where you'd enjoy yourself, work hard, and still experience success, I'd rank it as Stern, Wharton/MIT, Ross, Haas. My ranking for getting a job in finance would be Wharton, Stern, MIT, Ross, Haas
How would you define talent?
I guess being on another level in terms of intuition/ability. If you're somehow a lot more capable than your peers then you'd have more time to do other things. Unfortunately, at those schools, everyone is so capable that they have to keep working just to be competitive.
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Wow is Ross really that strong in terms of recruitment?
I always heard that Haas = Stern in terms of whether you prefer the west vs. east coast respectively, which is then followed along by Ross and maybe McIntire.
And I'm thinking Duke trumps them all? (except Wharton MIT)
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Stern: Pros: NYC ---> proximity to Wall St and availability of real internships throughout all 4 years of college; deep alumni network.
Cons: Tough grading curve; students seem to be hard-wired at birth to want to do i-banking; busted girls.
Ross: Pros: more of a campus/college life; deep alumni network; athletics; good recruiting.
Cons: location; still not global "brand name" despite excellent reputation for those 'who know'.
Haas: Pros: West Coast; again, deep alumni network; tomorrow's tech stars in backyard; probably more diverse (in terms of career aspirations) student body.
Cons: Tougher to get to NYC (who'd want to leave West Coast though?).
I'm always interested to see what it was people said that they have to come back two years later to delete. Obviously it's something either compromising or personally identifying, but still ..
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If you want to work in NYC. If you want Chicago, probably Ross.
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If you want to work in NYC. If you want Chicago, probably Ross.
Stern, Haas, Ross (Originally Posted: 05/23/2010)
How well do the undergraduate programs of NYU Stern, Berkeley Haas, and UMich Ross place at top MBA programs? Does having a dual degree in engineering and business increase marketability for jobs and MBA programs?
They all place very well, partly because of the name and partly because their students place into the top jobs. I don't think a dual degree would greatly increase marketability and is probably more of a hassle than its worth. MBA admissions are based on your GMAT, work experience, Undergrad GPA, and maybe some social service. Getting a dual degree is not worth the risk of pulling down you undergrad GPA, especially since it looks like you want to go into business and not engineering. In terms of FT jobs, they can place you in wherever city you want, but UMICH places a lot in Chicago, NYU=NYC, and Berkley=San Fran/West Coast.
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