Which one would you pick between Citi TMT or DB TMT?
I know Citi has had a lot of troubles and departures recently, but does it still have more prestige than DB? are S bulge brackets still better perceived?
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I'd choose the one that was staffed with the kind of people that I'd want to work with. Working with like-minded individuals is going to be more important than the bank you work for.
Prestige is fleeting. As recent as last year you couldn't pay people to work at Citi. Now they seem to be doing well. Anyway considering you have two offers from TMT groups, choose the one that has people that will be fun to work with. Seriously.
Are you implying that people would work there for free if it was a good place to work?
Aren't those places totally different culture-wise? Hard to tell from a couple of interviews
they are. DB tech is a complete sweatshop. I heard citi is better in terms of hours
depends on your office too. are u referring to DB Tech in SF and Citi Tech in Palo Alto?
Its all london.
But beyond the groups, how's the prestige factor? Would you rank Citi, DB, CS in the same BB bag?
Yes, in London Citi, DB, CS are roughly the same in terms of "prestige".
DB is on the way up, Citi on the way down in my opinion But at DB I've heard traders are king and Citi's IB is better than trading. But go where you like the people. and to an earlier post Both are sweatshops. ibanking = sweatshop uniless you have no deal flow.
DB London is supposed to have an amazing culture. This is what I've heard from people who have worked there.
The only objective way to measure strength of a firm is deal flow, and Citi is still top notch. Check league tables and you'll see Citi generally falls above DB for IBD... "prestige" is extremely subjective
go to the group with the most awesome points
citi has more dealflow by #s, not sure about size, maybe citi still wins. but if you check the rankings citi has been declining and db improving.. we'll see if citi is able to hold on.
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