UCL HPE vs. Economics at German target universities for London IB

How would you rate a BA in History, Politics & Economics (HPE) at UCL for breaking into London investment banking?

Would UCL HPE, given the UCL brand and being based in London, be considered a similar or potentially stronger signal than a traditional BSc Economics at Mannheim, Frankfurt School (FS), WHU, or Goethe University?

I’m particularly interested in how London IB recruiters perceive these degrees. Would the less quantitative nature of HPE be a significant disadvantage compared with studying Economics at one of the German target/semi-target universities?

If anyone has experience recruiting for London IB or has gone through the process with a similar degree, I’d really appreciate your perspective.

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Based on the most helpful WSO content, here's how your options stack up for breaking into London IB:

  1. UCL HPE:

    • UCL is a recognized target university in the UK for investment banking, and its location in London provides significant networking and internship opportunities.
    • While HPE is less quantitative than a traditional Economics degree, the UCL brand and its target status can compensate for this, especially if you demonstrate strong analytical skills through internships, extracurriculars, or additional certifications (e.g., CFA Level 1 or financial modeling courses).
    • Recruiters in London IB are familiar with UCL graduates, and the proximity to the financial hub makes it easier to attend events, interviews, and networking sessions.
  2. German Target Universities (Mannheim, WHU, FS, Goethe):

    • Among German universities, Mannheim, WHU, and FS are considered strong targets for IB, particularly for roles in Frankfurt or other German-speaking financial hubs. However, their recognition in London IB is slightly lower compared to UCL.
    • A BSc in Economics from these schools is more quantitative, which could be an advantage for technical roles. However, the need to relocate to London for networking and interviews might put you at a slight disadvantage compared to UCL students who are already in the city.
  3. Quantitative vs. Brand:

    • The less quantitative nature of UCL HPE could be a disadvantage if you're targeting highly technical roles (e.g., trading or quant-heavy IB divisions). However, for generalist IB roles (e.g., M&A, ECM, DCM), the UCL brand and its target status in the UK often outweigh the specific degree focus.
    • If you pursue UCL HPE, consider supplementing your degree with quantitative coursework or certifications to address any perceived gaps.

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Ucl, for London no question. We're brand whores in IB. In dach only St gallen opens doors in London. 

However I think living in another country, having interesting internships there, learning a new language, building a strong academic base for the future has value in itself, so don't discount that. 

 
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If your only criterion is the likelihood of breaking into London IB straight out of undergrad, then yes, UCL has the edge. However, once you factor in tuition fees, living expenses, and internship opportunities, I'd rank the German targets higher than UCL HPE. As an international student, you'd be paying hefty tuition fees at UCL on top of London's high living costs, while public universities like Mannheim are practically free, and even WHU (most expensive German route) is considerably cheaper. Assuming you speak German, it's also generally easier to secure relevant finance internships in continental Europe during your bachelor's than in the UK. You could always pursue a master's at LSE or LBS afterwards and recruit for London IB from there. Besides, UCL HPE isn't quite as established in finance recruiting as UCL Economics or Warwick Economics.

 

Thanks for your valuable insights. I’ve also been considering pursuing a master’s degree at a leading target university such as HEC Paris, LBS, Oxford, Cambridge or LSE. However, one thing I’ve noticed is that many Germans who successfully secure summer internships and full-time offers at EBs/BBs tend to follow one of two paths:

  • They either take a gap year between their bachelor’s and master’s degrees, during which they complete a one-year internship.
  • Or they pursue a 1.5- to two-year master’s degree, which effectively delays their entry into full-time employment by up to two years, given that analyst programmes typically begin the summer following a summer internship.

While I’m certainly considering an MSc, I’m struggling to see how I could structure my internships throughout the degree to position myself for an analyst start immediately after graduation, whether in the summer or winter.

Bromley
 

*Just to clarify, I didn’t mean a single one-year internship, but rather them filling that gap year with multiple internships.

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