I think it would be useful to rank the top S&T summer programs. There many ways to rank them, but how about a combination of prestige and full time offers?
Is Goldman first Morgan second?
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Best S&T SA position?? (Originally Posted: 02/25/2010)
Excluding GS, what S&T SA position is the most prestigious and one that you would take in a second (even maybe over GS) if given an offer? and why?
JPM, MS, CS, BCS, C, BAC, DB, or UBS??
This has been discussed over a thousand times. Worry about getting the offers first...
you can't rank huge firms like that! S&T is composed of so many different business lines!
Some companies are good at certain things and others at other things. (and this of course changes over time as top people move around).
Since most don't recruit into a specific business or desk, the best strategy is to get whatever offers you can and then (if you have more than 1) choose based on people fit.
(for SA though you would be smart to just go for prestige, with GS being the top, and every other BB being just slightly below)
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/Citi%20Fixed%20Income.pdf
this shows market share.
From what I've read, JPM looks like the 2nd obvious S&T choice on the street....
Interested in EM so for me, it would be 1. JPM 2. C 3. DB 4. BCS 5. MS 6. CS 7. BAC 8. UBS
I agree for the most part..
I'm thinking:
1) JPM (pretty much in line with GS) 2) BCS (really starting to move up with big future, especially in commodities) 3) CS (great in many areas) 4) MS (S&T isnt as big of a powerhouse as their IBD) 5) DB (mainly in rates, unless thats where you want to be) 6) C 7) UBS 8) BAC
These rankings are arbitrary. Nearly everyone in the industry I have talked to has said go where you like the people and you will be provided responsibility. If your manager at JPM/GS is a prick or doesn't provide responsibility to people in 3-4 years, you are out of luck. The name of a bank matters more for banking where work output isn't black and white and the name matters for exit ops. Its different for trading.
What Mahras said. The only way the name really matters is for the reputation of your research guys.
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