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This case has nothing to do with his Hustler University business. I like some of the stuff he says, but anyone with half a brain will know HU is a scam.
Anyone can be charged with anything and fake anonymous rape claims are hardly a rare phenomena these days. Let's see some actual evidence. The fact he already sat in prison for months without any charges and was subsequently released is suspicious, as is the fact that none of his supposed victims have actually filed reports with the police (maybe that's changed now?) and instead made anonymous submissions to the BBC and other news outlets. As more and more has come out, it's starting to look like these claims are probably BS. If he's guilty, great, stop pussyfooting around and prove it because all they've managed to do to him so far is blow up his social media profiles 10x bigger than they ever was on their own.
Edit: Incredible how people will toss shit purely for saying you want to wait for actual evidence before convicting someone in the court of public opinion.
Andrew Tate admitted he moved to Romania because he thought the rape laws were more lenient 😭 but no it all must be some kind of conspiracy against alpha males!
And yeah, I'm sure tons of people are thinking "Oh hey, who's that chinless rapist on the news? Maybe I should buy his Hustlers U course?" after watching this... sure buddy.
Please do share that clip/quote. Because with how often you just make dumb stuff up I'm like 51% sure at this point you're just Drumpfy on an alt.
Innocent until proven guilty for sure, but let's admit he's also a bit of a scumbag.
"Innocent until proven guilty" is a legal standard. Legal status and a person's actions aren't the same thing. Just something worth keeping in mind (as you rightfully point out)
I see the cope is strong with you
Yeah dude, I'm the one dealing with cope for believing innocent until proven guilty in a case that's defined by its political controversy. I bet you're the type to cry about the need for stricter gun regulations while simultaneously celebrating the President's crackhead son getting off on felony gun charges with probation. I pity the kids overpaying for your mentorship.
Millions of people paid this sleazy rapist and conman to tell them how to be an alpha male... lmao
Literally who gives a fuck. He's got some based takes, but also has some bad ones. Regardless, he has the speaking diction and social EQ of a middle schooler who is in the peak of their Ben Shapiro lib-owning compilation phase. He's a huge pathological liar too, like 90% of his stories are complete BS. I can't stand hearing about this guy anymore.
Agreed. Which is why I am glad he will likely end up in jail for a good while
Here's my take - I'm 100% against many things Andrew Tate stands for, e.g., misogyny, rudeness, toxicity, this cringe mentality of tryna be an alpha male when a true alpha male would just treat people with kindness and respect - but I think the fact that there's such a huge demand for this Andrew Tate figure in many young men's lives indicates that mainstream society was going down the wrong direction to begin with, and that's what's making these young men so confused and disorientated that they need Tate. Society is so balls deep in the wokeness and the blurring of gender now that it's causing a masculinity crisis.
If I were still in middle or high school, I might've probably turned to Tate's ideologies. I struggled with finding myself and defining what it means to be a man back in school (bcuz I was in a nerdy Asian community and everyone was watching cringe KPop etc), and thankfully I came out intact and I'm content and secure with my masculinity now. But if I were to grow up in this woke world, who knows what would've happened to my development. When you teach little kids that gender is a human construct, that is just harmful to their mindset and it leaves them (subconsciously) confused.
Society and the BBC is quick to shoot down Tate and they 100% should, but no one actually addresses the conventional narrative that pushes so many adolescents to Tate in the 1st place (and JP and Shapiro for that regard, but they're not toxic)
> I think the fact that there's such a huge demand for this Andrew Tate figure in many young men's lives indicates that mainstream society was going down the wrong direction to begin with, and that's what's making these young men so confused and disorientated that they need Tate. Society is so balls deep in the wokeness and the blurring of gender now that it's causing a masculinity crisis.
This is what everyone should be talking about, because this is a massive issue. And no one in the media, Hollywood, government, education, etc is willing to even admit this is an issue. I wonder why? Hmm...
Because to address the masculinity crisis is to push against the conventional narrative, which is terrifying. And anyone who addresses it, no matter what their intentions, tends to get tarred with the same brush as the hardcore Tate followers. And then there's the historical evidence that women and other minorities have been marginalized for centuries, so to address the masculinity crisis is a waste of time because men have been in power for so long, so if masculinity breaking down is a real thing, it's not a very important issue, and it might even 'just be fair'.
Social media has contributed a lot to the polarization of world views.
If you start cheering a rapist and a sex trafficker because a tiny percentage of the population is allowed to change their gender, then maybe it’s you who is the problem. I don’t see why trans people are the scapegoat for Andrew Tate of all things. Tons of men shared his views on women for decades, long before trans issuers were mainstream at all.
Did I ever cheer Tate?
My stance is - I disapprove of Tate and I think he is a terrible role model for the young boys who support him and call him 'Top G' or some cringe shit like that. I think he's cringey af. Idk if he's guilty or not so no comment on that.
But the fact that so many adolescents are turning to him is indicative of deeper societal issues (what the media calls the masculinity crisis) that are depriving people of conservative masculine attitudes. They turn to Tate - a terrible 'champion' of conservative masculinity, but that's all these young men have rn. Which is bad.
However, there's the possibility that these Tate followers were toxic people to begin with, and they would've followed him regardless of a societal shift in values or not. There's no econometric analysis and it's impossible to run a regression or factor analysis which holds the 'societal shift' or 'masculinity crisis' factor constant. We just can't know for sure and that's why social studies are an art not a science
Everything he stands for (pride, sexual promiscuity, misogyny, love of money) is against the ethos of Jesus Christ, so I'm not surprised he converted from Christianity. The society he opposes promotes the exact same things he promotes but comes at it from a different angle. I have no idea if he's guilty or not of these charges, but what he stands for is corrosive to a man's soul. I say this as a conservative--he's a wolf in sheep's clothing. I hope he repents, and, if he's guilty, I hope justice is served.
assuming someone's guilty is against the framework of justice isn't it? innocent until proven guilty? due process? just saying..
He hath said mean things in clips on TikTok and must be burned at the stake so sayeth the corporate media.
That’s why I qualified the statement with “assuming”, maybe he’s innocent idk.
Sure. Innocent until proven guilty is an important legal standard. But legal status and one’s behavior aren’t the same thing.
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