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1) Nobody outside of a sporting competition cares about PEDs and TRT is not a PED (unless specifically outlined in certain competition rules), it would be considered a medical treatment seeing as it's something you're prescribed by a physician.

2) No, standard and even more extensive pre-employment drug tests will not detect TRT/PEDs. They care if you're railing coke or have a heroin problem, not a gym rat.  

3) Why as a 20M are you taking TRT?! Seems VERY young for a treatment like this. If it's a medical condition then you have my sympathy and it makes total sense, but if you're just doing it for aesthetics this is probably not the best decision since prolonged use will permanently stunt your own endocrine system e.g. you'll need to be on it for the rest of your life. I know a few bodybuilders and they all are adamant that if that's the route someone wants to go they should be sure to max out their natty potential before introducing sauce, and you won't hit that until you're in your mid-late 20s with consistent work. 

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1) Nobody outside of a sporting competition cares about PEDs and TRT is not a PED (unless specifically outlined in certain competition rules), it would be considered a medical treatment seeing as it's something you're prescribed by a physician.

2) Why as a 20M are you taking TRT? Seems VERY young for a treatment like this. If it's a medical condition then you have my sympathy and it makes total sense, but if you're just doing it for aesthetics this is not a bright decision since prolonged use will permanently stunt your own endocrine system. 

I wanna get jacked quick. Got some decent results natty, but I wanna speed things up. My test rn in like 960 ng/dl but i think i can deffo benefit from t. I plan to blast for a while and then cruise. Should I do SARMS first before I commit?

 
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I wanna get jacked quick. Got some decent results natty, but I wanna speed things up. My test rn in like 960 ng/dl but i think i can deffo benefit from t. I plan to blast for a while and then cruise. Should I do SARMS first before I commit?

I adjusted my comment before you started your reply so def revisit.

Bro, you're literally at the upper end of the spectrum for natural test (makes sense given age) but my god man there are people who would kill to be there as a natty. Doing steroids just to get jacked quick is... so immensely stupid... but you're 20 so I'm glad that you're at least smart enough to ask for advice before trying to do this stuff yourself. 

No, you should not do SARMS. You should not do ANY steroids until you have maxed your potential as a natty and learned proper training protocol which at 20 y/o there's a 0.01% chance you have. This isn't just "get jacked quick" this is getting on a treadmill you can never get off of. Do not permanently fuck up your entire body chemistry just because you're impatient, if anything I bet a professionally developed training regimen and strict diet will get you to the gains you're looking for much quicker than whatever you are currently doing. 

I encourage you to explore more educational resources on the topic, particularly ones related to the pharmacology involved. MorePlatesMoreDates is a great resource which I've included below. May the gains be with you. 

https://www.youtube.com/@MorePlatesMoreDates

https://moreplatesmoredates.com/

"If you don't have any enemies in life you have never stood up for anything" - Winston Churchill | "It's a testament to the sheer belligerence of the profession that people would rather argue about the 'risk-adjusted returns' of using inferior tooth cleaning methods." - kellycriterion
 

Yo what????????? TRT at 20 bro cmon. Don't do it. I have been lifting since 6th grade due to football and am 22 years old rn. Still haven't maxed out my genetic potential. Do not take TRT. You will definitely regret it. Building muscle TAKES TIME. Can't stress this enough. Don't fall for the trap of get jacked quick fake natty insta influencers. Hop on Creatine, control your diet, stay in a proper healthy bulk and do cuts every now and then. It will take years but do not take TRT until you have fully plateaued. You will only plateau like 6-8 years of consistent training imo. I'm not even considering taking TRT till im in my mid 30's when natural Test levels fall off.

 

Don't get on TRT bro, that is something 50 year old guys do and juicers who never come off of it. Only go on it if you get tested and have a deficiency.

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee
 
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Genuinely curious to hear the OP's cost/benefit analysis on this. Not being sarcastic, just cannot comprehend this decision making process. 


 

I wanted to get jacked real quick to fuck bad bitches 

 
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You want to get jacked quick, but don't mind your dick not working.  So the only logical thing I can assume is a power bottom.

But you also have to realize that jacking your already high test levels through the roof won't result in a straight line correlation to muscle growth. Supranatural test levels do increase muscle growth, but beyond a certain level and your negative side effects go through the roof while additional muscle growth is non-existent. Also, say you do a tren/test cycle and absolutely blow up? How do you then explain it when you lose those gains off cycle? There's a reason people get trapped in a never ending cycle of being on and off cycle. If you're 20 another 5-10 lbs of muscle (that you will actually keep) is easy to gain in a few months. Stick to staying natural so you don't chemically castrate yourself. You aren't being paid millions to play a sport better or to be an actor in a movie. 

 

What's hilarious is watching people take juice and then not realize they HAVE to be working out an insane amount in order to get the results. If they don't they just get fat in addition to having all the negative side effects. 

"If you don't have any enemies in life you have never stood up for anything" - Winston Churchill | "It's a testament to the sheer belligerence of the profession that people would rather argue about the 'risk-adjusted returns' of using inferior tooth cleaning methods." - kellycriterion
 

STAY THE FUCK AWAY FROM TRT AND ANY PEDS.

Bro you’re not even fully grown yet and have been lifting for a couple years. This would be the worst decision of your life so far unless you’ve like killed an innocent person in the past.

I know you see people on insta that are jacked and shredded. Now go outside and see how many people look like that.

Just keep grinding in the gym.

 

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