Horseshoe theory - gender/ sexual identity
For those who don't know, the horseshoe theory hypothesizes that the far left and the far right are actually closer to each other, than each are to the center.
This is propagated by the polarization of social media echo chambers. These days, you are either liberal or conservative. Things are very binary now. Because if you are liberal biased, for example, TikTok and YT will keep recommending you liberal content, with all the top comments being liberal. This pushes the population into the far ends of both camps. This curves things further more, until they form a horseshoe.
About gender identity, it's conventionally a liberal idea. But I thought, isn't the notion, fundamentally a conservative philosophy as well? You choose who you want to be. Our choices, far more than our abilities or the hand we were dealt, make us who we are. For the LGBT community, the fundamental notion is that they're not bound to what life and society deemed them to be. They are who they CHOOSE to be - a woman who chooses to be a man, for example.
Painting with very broad strokes here, we'd think that LGBT tends to be associated with liberal and progressive ideologies. Same goes with the diversity gang. But, consistent with horseshoe theory, the fearless LGBT (and diversity) philosophy is actually a very conservative ideology at its heart.
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It might help if you fleshed this out more. Right now it seems more like an assertion than an argument.
Not arguing for this - want to clarify that. Just thought of this passingly and thought of how the far right and far left, and LGBT and anti-LGBT, might actually be standing for the same things, as per horseshoe theory. Just wanted to see what people thought.
The elephant in the room that you are missing is government enforcement of these ideas.
I'm a libertarian conservative and you're right, people should be whatever they want to be. That's great. More power to them.
Now what I'm against is forcing my kids to learn about the 42 genders in 2nd grade public school. Forced use of pronouns and treating every derivative of the 42 genders as a special protected class. That is the very very wide gap between conservatives and liberals on this issue.
Exactly. Teaching little kids about all these things, is taking things too far and is overcomplicating shit for kids. First of all there's not even a scientific consensus on the multiple gender concept
Yup, the science is very bad on this stuff, especially anything regarding trans people. You could argue horseshoe here as well right? The Left loves science on climate change. Surely, they're not so far apart on trans issues, gender, and abortion right? Nope, the gap between conservatives is as wide as the Pacific on those issues - science only matters when it backs your issues apparently.
Just a side note. I don't think the horseshoe theory is really true for almost anything. One reason that we have the Right and Left split across the world (in roughly 50/50 splits almost always) is that there are distinct genetic personality differences between people who identify as right wing versus those who identify as left wing.
Right wing tends to be more rules based with strict definitions of right and wrong. Left wing tends to be personalities with greater degrees of openess and willingness to see things from different points of view and fluid ideas of right and wrong depending on the person's circumstances.
These are key psychology differences way deeper than any political issue and they will always result in a butting of heads.
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