I swear if I ever own my own company I am not asking if people are gay or straight, black, white or Hispanic I'm hiring whoever the fuck is the best. This diversity thing is getting out of hand. Like who cares if your board is 10 white straight guys or 10 Asian women just choose the best option. Crazy that this is a hot tale nowadays.
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I also want to add I am considered a diversity candidate cause my i am from Latin America but I am literally white and am fortunate enough to have successful parents that pay for my college etc. the fact I got diversity internships and programs over a poor kid who went to public school his entire life and had to grind is ridiculous I don’t understand how you could think otherwise.
Are you trying to say Boeing's board wouldn't be better served if a seasoned aerospace white male engineer was replaced with a gender studies UCLA MBA black female?
If there are 10 analyst spots at JPM in our hypothetical hiring scenario. 100 people apply. Lets say of the 100 applicants, 80 are under represented minorities (URM - black/brown/female) and 20 are Indian. Assuming no initial distinction in the distribution of talent from that initial set of 100 applicants (meaning, a 50th percentile URM candidate and a 50th percentile Indian candidate would be of roughly equal value to JPM), you would expect 8 URM hires and 2 Indian hires. You have hopefully hired the top 10 percentile of applicants.
But!, what if JPM mandates you hire 5 URM and 5 Indian candidates...now you are getting (hopefully) the top ~6 percentile of URM applicants and the top 25 percentile of Indian applicants.
Remember!! We assumed the initial 100 applicants didn't skew in their distribution of talent across race. Meaning, of the 100 applicants, we would only expect 2 to be Indian since they make up 20/100 applicants. But now, we have hired 5! Hmm what kind of environment does this create???
Now, a couple years down the road, what kind of complaints would you expect to hear? I have some:
"URM bankers are paid more than Indian bankers!!"
"URM bankers are getting promoted faster than Indian bankers!"
"There are no Indian leaders in finance! All URMs!"
Well, I think you guys get it. It's obvious what the solution should be right?
HIRE MORE INDIANS!!
Let me guess... you're indian.
I love how you put Brown and Indian as two separate groups
Ive always found the media doing that so asinine.
as long as y’all put on deodorant
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Haha to start your MBA case with “Boeing board”. History would tell us the UCLA lady prolly is the right choice. Maybe should have chosen a company where a non-diverse leadership team has been a shit show.
Step 1: own your own company
How would you address nepotism? On the one hand it mitigates risk, by having foreknowledge of the candidate. On the other hand, it often leads to subpar performance (which is the premium paid for the risk of complete failure being mitigated).
I don’t think those necessarily equate
We'll see, there are 2 court cases being considered by the Supreme Court right now on affirmative action. Several conservative justices have said they want to ban affirmative action so hopefully they get on the docket -- if they do, they're almost guaranteed to kill it.
Amen. Just because something crappy happened to a group 150yrs ago doesn't mean they get a free pass for the rest of time, what an asinine idea that just breeds more anger & divisiveness
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There expected to announce if they’ll have the case any day now.
Thomas and Alito are absolutely going to vote to grant a trial for the cases. Roberts would ideologically but may not out of respect for precedent, though he’s been iffy on that stuff lately. Don’t know much about the three Trump appointees but, it only takes 4 to hear the case.
Well, you should have diversity when it matters. For example, if we're talking about the board of Target or WalMart, it's important to get ideas from backgrounds representative of your customers: men, women, various minorities, etc.
However, if you're a company that makes nuts and bolts and widgets, then please by all means get the best people on the board with absolutely zero consideration for their race/gender.
Whether you like it or not it’s here to stay.
Focus on what you can control and keep pushing. I’m gonna get rich regardless.
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It is 2021, diverse firms out perform non-diverse ones. Heard of this google company? Maybe this Microsoft? How about Pepsi, I think they still in business.
You are fully correct firms who push the process when it shows but it shows results tons now.
Firms that simply surpass background and look at merit will become successful. I’d argue that the companies that you listed are successful because they look at all candidates as the same. Where one company likely traditionally may have given improper weight to some the managers son or a neighbor or some other ‘nepotistic’ connection, these companies just looked at a candidates’ merit regardless of who they new etc. There’s a difference between being a diverse company and a company that gives diversity candidates a boost.
WhEn YoU'rE uSeD tO pRiViLeGe, eQuAliTy fEeLs liKe oPpReSsIoN. Insert some other NPC phrase by leftists that they try to program the bots with next. I agree with you 100% OP. I don't get why I as a straight indian male (or any other non diversity applicant) should get punished for being the wrong skin color or sex or not liking dick up my ass. I wasn't responsible for what happened 50-100 years. Why are we punishing current generation for sins their grandparents committed? It is complete lunacy. And yes, if you give special advantages to certain groups by default you are punishing the remaining ones. Spare me with the equality nonsense. Maybe you could make an argument to give programs for blacks and hispanics (still am against them) but for girls and LGBTQ?
How are you oppressed as a rich ass white girl? Why should you get a benefit just because you like getting balls deep in dudes or think you're a girl despite having a massive schlong? These are all immutable characteristics. It is ironic that the "solution" for past discrimination is just discriminating even more lol. Feminists always talk about equality and men and women being treated equally. If they want to be respected and treated on a level playing field, shouldn't they be advocating against girls getting special privileges in recruiting? They don't because it was never about equality. They want an unfair advantage. They want all the reward without any of the risk.
Seeing some of the posts about how much of IB SA classes go to diversity before even target non diversity recruiting takes place, it's practically impossible for non target non diversity to break in. Having been fortunate to get in if I get the chance to interview people, I am going to solely make decisions based on their competency. Even though the system is rigged against non diversity applicants, we can't let it affect us. We have to worry about ourselves and do everything we can control to the best of our ability. No point complaining about the advantages that others are afforded. It won't get us anywhere.
Keep your head down, work as hard as possible, and get as rich as you can. All you can do to avoid the bs in society. Makes me sad these days that if anyone articulated your viewpoint OP, they'd be labeled as a wHiTe sUpReMaCiSt, rAcIsT, tRaNsPhObIC, mISoGyNisT. What times we live in. All logic and reason seems to be lost in favor of being "woke" and fitting into the demands of a vocal minority.
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Precisely why I didn’t get a BB offer.
Clearly putting 'diverse' candidates on an easier track may work in the short term but in the long term their coworkers may be bitter and see them as incompetent diversity hires. So not only does it create conflict but it may actually reduce the amount of diversity.
I think it should be reviewed in a qualitative basis. If you come from an underprivileged background whether it's based on race, income, immigration, etc., you get a brief 20 minute call to explain what was holding you back in life and how you overcame it.
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