If you could move and work in 1 city in the South, where would it be?
Contenders Austin, Miami, New Orleans, Atlanta, Charlotte, Dallas, Nashville, etc.
Why that city over the rest?
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Of those, probably Austin or Dallas. Miami could be cool but I've never been there, it seems like it's its own country.
Dallas yes, Austin no. The politics of Austin are changing and not in a direction I support, so on personal grounds it's out for me. Dallas also has a really strong finance sector and on the life outside of work side you can find just about anything and everything in DFW. There's just not as much notoriety as NYC or Chicago or outdoorsy/nature type of things to enjoy. Miami on the other hand is a blast. Would definitely live in Ft Lauderdale and work in Miami. Also as mentioned, Nashville is also a really nice spot that I would be more than ok having to relocate to.
Yup, Austin is now full on young, urban, white tech bro professional crowd. Significantly less diverse than before and zero culture
yeah that makes sense, I wasn't really thinking about it that much. I was last in Austin in like 2016 or so, and it seemed fun back then, but probably has gotten worse now that everyone is moving there.
I like DFW, have some friends there and Dallas itself is pretty cool. My friends in FW don't like it as much though.
I would probably pick Nashville. While mostly known for bachelor parties and country music, there's actually some pretty cool history deep rooted in the place. Really nice surrounding neighborhoods like Brentwood, Franklin, etc. that are pretty close to downtown. Also a good deal of parks / natural preserves nearby. Plus, several high-profile companies like Oracle and AllianceBernstein are planning to move a significant # of jobs to the city and are investing large sums of $ into Nashville.
I still love NYC and can't picture myself leaving but sometimes I can't help but dream of living in a warmer place.
Yeah NYC is the best city in the world.
Was*
But the drawback of Dallas is that it's extremely, extremely spread out. Good chance the company you're working at is in Irving, or Richardson and now you either have to commute every day for work to and from Uptown or live in the burbs.
Also my understanding is that Uptown isn't really what it used to be. The Mckinney Ave. area has become sketchier in the past couple of years, and people are moving north towards Knox Henderson or just sticking to Las Colinas/Plano.
DFW is definitely very large geographically. It's larger than the states of Connecticut and Rhode Island...combined. South Dallas is geographically larger than the entirety of Atlanta. DFW airport is bigger than the island of Manhattan and is it's own municipality, etc.
The commute isn't bad, but you're right that you drive everywhere. It was fun playing the spot the transplant game because they had no clue how completely opposite it was to tight packed places back home like NYC or Boston. The travel time between the three 'burbs you mentioned is maybe 15-20 minutes in any given direction, at most. And that's in rush hour. If you want a commute to really complain about, move to Little Elm or McKinney and commute to Irving or Grand Prarie. Or go the otherway and live in Mansfield and work in downtown Dallas. Those definitely deserve a slap upside the head for "why do you do this to yourself?"
Missed the memo on Las Colinas being a hotspot? Great place to work, but wouldn't recommend anyone live there. McKinney Ave isn't sketchier, just empty now (thanks COVID!). "Moving North" from there is past 635 if not full-on up past PGBT to Plano/Carrollton. Moving up to Knox/Henderson is literally moving 1/4 of a mile.
Can confirm the glory of the Katy Trail and of course it's all powerful Ice House. Will also warn that that area of town is without a doubt for fresh grads and if you're living there past the age of 28 you probably are staying around to play for the other team since that neighborhood is next door.
Almost forgot: there's Domino's everywhere in DFW too. So eat all the Domino's you want. Same for Taco Bell. Gotta give our pizza and fast food threads some love.
I've been to Dallas a handful of times for business and once for a wedding and thought it was great, would probably be my top pick despite the massive amount of shit I'd get for wearing Eagles gear on gamedays. Nashville is awesome. Never been to ATL or Charleston but heard great things about both (acquaintance has a corp dev gig there and loves it). Florida would also be interesting (Miami for sure in early/mid 20s, probably West Palm Beach now).
ATL crime has skyrocketed particularly in the Buckhead area (the nice part of town). Not worth it anymore. Charleston seems interesting but I don't know too much about it? What are the particular benefits of the city?
Charleston’s lovely to visit, but I would hesitate to call it a city like the rest of the list.
Gorgeous town, nice beaches, great golfing, lots of pastels, antebellum buildings, historical monuments. All very charming, but no real white collar industry to speak of beyond tourism (I do think there are a few F500s with support functions there). If you have a fully remote job it could be a nice setup, though the airport’s very regional
13/50
Damn, that's a shame to hear. We had family friends who moved to Buckhead and loved it, but that was maybe ~five years ago (they've since moved so missed out on the recent conditions). The guy I know in Charleston is a big golfer so he likes it for golfing + beaches, food, southern charm, etc.
Dallas. Not even a question.
Miami and Dallas are the only ones worth comparing. Miami is better though especially if you're young and want to live the baller lifestyle. Dallas is good for being a family man. The rest of the cities are a lower tier
It really depends on what kind of work you want to do....so I'm going to ignore that aspect and talk about my experience in each city.
Austin - an absolute banger. If it had mountains and got cold in the winter it would be just as cool as Denver. Good cohort of post-undergrad to young 30 somethings. Good party scene/night life. Great food.
Miami - south beach is like west Hollywood had a baby with Vegas on the ocean. My rule for Vegas is 2 nights minimum, 3 nights maximum. Same rule applies for south beach. Brickell is a lot of fun. Great party scene/night life. Good food. Gets super hot. Like walk to work in gym clothes, shower at the office, and grab your work attire from the rented locker in the locker room HOT.
New Orleans - all of Louisiana is very depressing. I agree with every single word Matthew McConaughey's character in True Detective has to say about the place. Mardi Gras is a must at least once in your life. Ideally, when you're in college. After you've crossed that off, avoid the entire state.
Atlanta - used to be cool, was terrible, now it's getting a little better. Buckhead gets played out about 1 year after undergrad. Virginia Highlands and Inman Park are the cool spots to hang out mid to late twenties. After age ~28 everyone gets married and heads to the burbs. Party scene/night life is ok. Good food.
Charlotte - lowest of low key banger southern city. super small so it gets played out quick. dating pool is very small. great lake culture so best to have a boat or know someone who does.
Dallas - I have the least amount of experience here. Only been a couple of times but it seems pretty cool. Steakhouses and Mexican food are very good. Night life seems cool. IMO, if you're choosing Texas then I would choose Austin.
Nashville - the bangingest banger southern city. Nashvegas. Great for a bachelor or bachelorette weekend. Not sure I'd want to live here. Food scene is pretty good. Night life skews heavily to the honky tonks. Outdoor activities pretty easily accessible just outside the city: hikes, river rafting.
Let us know what you choose and how you decided! Hope this helps.
OP didn't mention Charleston but it's a top 3 city in the South. Top 25 in all of USA. So much fun. Great food. Beach. It has a lot going for it and like I said, just so much fun. No idea what the work demos are....probably not finance but I have literally no idea.
Charlotte for me. A lot of those options are too expensive (Austin, Dallas, Miami... also Miami is a shithole for anyone not interested in the party scene). Nashville has limited work options. New Orleans is too swampy. Charlotte is sort of a nice middle ground th at has a bit of everything. Moderately abundant job options. Moderately cheap. Moderately good weather. Moderately interesting things to do and see. Moderate proximity to nature. Moderate politics.
Moderately liberal, but definitely solidly blue, not moderate.
Miami easily and its not even close
Trying to figure out how to leave NYC and move to Miami ASAP
Have some good friend from Miami & New Orleans, but have heard absolutely fantastic things about Charleston.
LOL. Answer is the north.
Wouldn't want to spend a MINUTE with you confederate flag raising scum. You Alex Jones-ass supporters.
Jk my dude - Miami #1 and nashville seems pretty sick
I live in Nashville, it's a cool place and really low COL, no state income tax. Plenty to do. Williamson county is where you want to live (Franklin/Brentwood/Arrington if you want a couple acres).
If I wasn't in Nashville, I would pick Miami. Nightlife and beaches.
Atlanta sucks - crime, more expensive than Nashville for living in a worse city, it's big enough to need transit but it's completely car dependent.
Charleston is awesome to visit and has AMAZING food and great history (Fort Sumter tour is awesome), but I wouldn't live there and I wouldn't even call it a "city," it's tiny AF. Nothing to do past 10PM.
Charlotte is fine but boring compared to NASH/Miami.
Was only in Dallas once, it seemed nice.
Austin is way too "California" now. Don't like it. Nothing against Cali, I'm just a born and bred Southerner and do not like that culture at all.
You are exactly spot on about ATL. I didn't want to openly trash it for fear of the monkey shit. Whenever I try to have a realistic conversation with someone from the South about ATL they always get so defensive and try to defend it. But it's just such a bad city.
Dallas imma fuckn Cowboy
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